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    Lentwood said:
    I feel this is going to be unpopular...but then, most of my posts are, so I'll do it anyway!

    Ronaldo shouldn't start against West Ham. Has been poor lately. I'd like to see Elanga AMLF, Sancho AMRF and Greenwood given a run-out at CF.

    I am also looking forward to seeing a proper CM playing at OT, just unfortunate he'll be in a West Ham shirt
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    It’s unpopular by Rangnick rather than the caf.

    I’d love to see Greenwood up top
     
    Lentwood said:
    I feel this is going to be unpopular...but then, most of my posts are, so I'll do it anyway!

    Ronaldo shouldn't start against West Ham. Has been poor lately. I'd like to see Elanga AMLF, Sancho AMRF and Greenwood given a run-out at CF.

    I am also looking forward to seeing a proper CM playing at OT, just unfortunate he'll be in a West Ham shirt
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    Never knew Mark Noble had a fan club on here
     
    Lentwood said:
    I feel this is going to be unpopular...but then, most of my posts are, so I'll do it anyway!

    Ronaldo shouldn't start against West Ham. Has been poor lately. I'd like to see Elanga AMLF, Sancho AMRF and Greenwood given a run-out at CF.

    I am also looking forward to seeing a proper CM playing at OT, just unfortunate he'll be in a West Ham shirt
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    Ronaldo has no way been as poor as Sancho has, IMO. Sancho has looked lost in most recent games. I mean if Cavani is fit that is a different question, though he hasn't really been pulling up trees either.
     
    Hopefully the Same team as Brentford but I'd be happy for Shaw to come in for Telles.
     
    -------------------------------DDG-----------------------------
    Dalot------Lindelof----------Varane----------Shaw
    ------Fernandes---McTominay----Fred-----------
    Sancho------------------------------------------Rashford
    ------------------------Ronaldo-----------------------------

    Playing Sancho more in hope than expectation, but we need more natural wide players if this is going to work. I still see Greenwood as a striker.

    The move to play Fernandes further back in a 3 has been a good (if glaringly obvious) one, that has helped us in the middle.
     
    sincher said:
    Ronaldo has no way been as poor as Sancho has, IMO. Sancho has looked lost in most recent games. I mean if Cavani is fit that is a different question, though he hasn't really been pulling up trees either.
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    I've been critical of Sancho myself, but at 21 and with a £73m outlay on him, we're invested in his future, so we're going to have to persevere.

    Personally, I have huge amounts of respect for both Ronaldo and Cavani, but I feel they should be used as 30-minute impact subs, rather than actually starting games at the expense of the younger lads.

    I know it wouldn't be popular with either player, but I'd rather have 30 good minutes at max intensity than 90 rather drab minutes of them having to manage their bodies through the game.

    I'd sell it to them by saying let the young lads start and run the legs off our opponents, then bring them on as the assassins to kill the game once it opens up a little and the opposition are tiring. If they want to leave at the end of the season, doesn't really bother me too much
     
    Lentwood said:
    I've been critical of Sancho myself, but at 21 and with a £73m outlay on him, we're invested in his future, so we're going to have to persevere.

    Personally, I have huge amounts of respect for both Ronaldo and Cavani, but I feel they should be used as 30-minute impact subs, rather than actually starting games at the expense of the younger lads.

    I know it wouldn't be popular with either player, but I'd rather have 30 good minutes at max intensity than 90 rather drab minutes of them having to manage their bodies through the game.

    I'd sell it to them by saying let the young lads start and run the legs off our opponents, then bring them on as the assassins to kill the game once it opens up a little and the opposition are tiring. If they want to leave at the end of the season, doesn't really bother me too much
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    I'd do it the other way around. Let Ronaldo know before hand that he has 60 mins to go all out. He'll work at a higher rate, defenders are going to fear playing against him, it'll open up space for the rest of the team. Nobody is afraid of Greenwood (yet). Then when teams are tired, bring in the pace and youth and tell them to sprint at every ball for 30 mins.
     
    Red Dreams said:
    Ronaldo will cry if he does not start.
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    I’m the sure man who’s won more champions league titles than our football club could add something to our starting 11. He contributed nicely to our second goal against Brentford and I think he’ll score if he gets the start.
     
    Giggsy13 said:
    I’m the sure man who’s won more champions league titles than our football club could add something to our starting 11. He contributed nicely to our second goal against Brentford and I think he’ll score if he gets the start.
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    I'm not surprised but It just shows up and exposes the bias and agendas clearly now around here for everyone to see doesn't it;

    if this was any other player coming back playing the first game back since from injury they wouldn't be judged so harshly against Brentford. But Ronaldo isn't afforded the same luxury and benefit of the doubt and you have to ask why is it agendas etc. People are so reactionary after every match.

    We win against Brentford with Ronaldo but only draw again Aston Villa with Cavani doing NOTHING not even a chest pass. Yet they want to change a winning team. People have really short memories.

    Hopefully United win, Ronaldo scores a goal and he gets the credit he deserves in the media and on this forum after the match.. After the hammering he's took in the media and on this forum the past few days with the media and certain forum members going too far with their criticism he's owed that to bring some balance back.. Let's see.
     
    SonyaCross493 said:
    I'm not surprised but It just shows up and exposes the bias and agendas clearly now around here for everyone to see doesn't it;

    if this was any other player coming back playing the first game back since from injury they wouldn't be judged so harshly against Brentford. But Ronaldo isn't afforded the same luxury and benefit of the doubt and you have to ask why is it agendas etc. People are so reactionary after every match.

    We win against Brentford with Ronaldo but only draw again Aston Villa with Cavani doing NOTHING not even a chest pass. Yet they want to change a winning team. People have really short memories.

    Hopefully United win, Ronaldo scores a goal and he gets the credit he deserves in the media and on this forum after the match.. After the hammering he's took in the media and on this forum the past few days with the media and certain forum members going too far with their criticism he's owed that to bring some balance back.. Let's see.
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    I think you will find the only reaction after (or even during) the match was Ronnie, in fact his utterly childish and infantile reaction to be being subbed is why I really dont think he helps this team that is already suffering from lack of team spirit. My view is he will be gone in the summer and the long term success of the club will be better for it. Obsessign with his past successes is just another backwards looking nostalgia trip that the whole club is wallowing in
     
    Giggsy13 said:
    I’m the sure man who’s won more champions league titles than our football club could add something to our starting 11. He contributed nicely to our second goal against Brentford and I think he’ll score if he gets the start.
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    Did not know he won those on his own.

    He needs to be a team player.
    It is not about him.
    Its about Manchester United Football Club. Even if the damn owners have cut the last two words out.

    I will be happy to see his goal celebration.
     
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    I never thought I'd type this sentence but Lindelof is going to be a miss and I'd start Jones with Varane, but we know it'll be Maguire. I expect the team to be the same as Wednesday other than that change, Elanga and Greenwood should keep their places, the only other change i could see possibly happening is Matic in for Fred.
     
    Lindelof off for West Ham. Meaning Maguire or Jones start. :nervous: Please be Jones.
     
    FFS what's this doing on at 1500?

    Look at the dogshite fixtures on tomorrow and tell me why this isn't being played in either the televised slots.

    Sure the punters will be flocking in for the Everton-Villa game. Pathetic.

    Also - how comes there are no EPL games the following weekend?
     
    groovyalbert said:
    FFS what's this doing on at 1500?

    Look at the dogshite fixtures on tomorrow and tell me why this isn't being played in either the televised slots.

    Sure the punters will be flocking in for the Everton-Villa game. Pathetic.

    Also - how comes there are no EPL games the following weekend?
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    FA Cup mate!
     
    Samid said:
    International break for non-European players. World Cup qualifiers.

    Winter break for European players.
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    Huh? When's that ever happened before - is this due to COVID?

    Other than the AFCON quarters and North/Central America WCQ, there's no international football. Hardly a huge indent on the EPL. Plus loads of other European leagues have cups being played that weekend. Seems a bit pointless.
     
    groovyalbert said:
    Huh? When's that ever happened before - is this due to COVID?

    Other than the AFCON quarters and North/Central America WCQ, there's no international football. Hardly a huge indent on the EPL. Plus loads of other European leagues have cups being played that weekend. Seems a bit pointless.
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    Yeah some confederations had a lot of catching up to do because of covid.

    Winter break in England was introduced in 2020. They're just killing two birds with one stone by having this year's break at the same time as the international fixtures.
     
    Samid said:
    Yeah some confederations had a lot of catching up to do because of covid.

    Winter break in England was introduced in 2020. They're just killing two birds with one stone by having this year's break at the same time as the international fixtures.
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    Fair play, and good to see them acknowledging the insane fixture pile up players are subjected to around Christmas/early Jan.

    Would probably make more sense just to spread it out more evenly though. I don't know about anyone else but I'll rarely watch all our matches around xmas/new year - usually around half - simply due to sheer quantity and more pressing commitments.
     
    Red00012 said:
    It’s unpopular by Rangnick rather than the caf.

    I’d love to see Greenwood up top
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    Yeah me too. Can't be worse than the current Ronaldo. It's just simply impossible.

    I'd say we put Jones there and it'd be even better. At least we might be able to win a couple of headers now.
     
    Watford v Norwich AND IT'S LIVE!!

    On Sky.

    Meanwhile we're playing West Ham in a Race For Top 4 Clash at 3pm tomorrow, not on TV.
     
    SonyaCross493 said:
    Que Ronaldo having a fit on the bench haha! :lol:

    I really should stay off this thread (Ronaldo is my favourites player) when Ronaldo doesn't score a goal in a game, it's toxic.. when Ronaldo doesn't score a goal in a goal he gets so much criticism (compare the Criticism Ronaldo gets to Cavani for example it's chalk and cheese).. the standards are ridiculous and impossible for any player to live upto never mind one that is almost 37 years old.. he cost a measly £13 million which is nothing and paltry in todays standards. Sancho and Varane cost much more yet don't get even half the criticism after a poor game or in Sanchos case a poor season.,

    I honestly think it's best if we mutually agree to terminate Ronaldo's contract at the end of the season.. The team wins with him in if (not Cavani) and the fans want to drop him. He's definitely not loved like he wants and he is obviously unhappy as he feels the pressure and stress scapegoat for all the teams problems and it shows hence his reaction last night as he feels he needs to score goals to justify/defend himself and scoring goals is the only way he knows how.. So best for all parties if he leaves. And he can go somewhere where he's loved and adored play score all the time etc to win trophies.

    everyone can be happy and move on then. The Media and fans killed the Golden Goose. Over-analysing and going OTT at everything Ronaldo does and only focusing on the negatives (instead of the positives like the chest pass)

    Ronaldo should go to a Farmers League like Messi and then we will see who's better.
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    I don't think posters on Redcafe have quite that much influence, Sonya. Plus it's always polemic with him (wasn't that the quote?), too much visibility. The tv cameras follow him around during a game and the announcers analyze his facial expressions, what he does, who he speaks to, hand gestures, etc. [And people on Redcafe pick it up.]
    OTOH, the press didn't love him last time he played for Utd, and I always thought the constant nagging & criticism was one reason he left.
     
    Team picks itself really

    de gea

    dalot maguire varane telles

    matic
    mct bruno

    greenwood ronaldo elanga

    subs- rashfood, jones, lingard,sancho, fred,
     
    Ronaldo likely out with an injury so we may get a very exciting front 3. I would go Elanga Greenwood and Rashford.
     
    Depends which utd turn up. First half against Brentford which was the worst performance under RR and we lose 2/3-0 Second half performance which was the best under RR and we win 2/3-1. Think it will be a tight game, but there will be a winner, as a draw no good to either team.
     
    Lentwood said:
    I feel this is going to be unpopular...but then, most of my posts are, so I'll do it anyway!

    Ronaldo shouldn't start against West Ham. Has been poor lately. I'd like to see Elanga AMLF, Sancho AMRF and Greenwood given a run-out at CF.

    I am also looking forward to seeing a proper CM playing at OT, just unfortunate he'll be in a West Ham shirt
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    It's not a controversial opinion at all. He's in that zone where he's trying too hard and therefore missing his chances. Might need a minute out the side. Greenwood in with Elanga and Greenwood seems good. Can always sub him in later.
     
    USREDEVIL said:
    It's not a controversial opinion at all. He's in that zone where he's trying too hard and therefore missing his chances. Might need a minute out the side. Greenwood in with Elanga and Greenwood seems good. Can always sub him in later.
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    Yeah, I'd agree he is trying too hard. I've noticed his all-round game has suffered lately, seems to be dropping too deep, trying to get involved and his touch has been off. I don't want him running about in midfield trying to be Dennis Bergkamp, I want him on the shoulder of the last defender or linking up play as he did for the 2nd goal vs Brentford.
     
    Class of 1902 said:
    Cavani's persistent absences is starting to piss me off.
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    Yep, I've rather try Greenwood through the middle instead and let Cavani leave now if he's hardly ever going to be fit.

    If Ronaldo or Cavani aren't fit I'd go with;

    ......................De Gea
    Dalot....Maguire...Varane....Telles
    ...................... Fred
    ...........McTom.........Bruno
    Sancho.....Greenwood....Rashford

    I'd like to see that front 3 for a game being fed by Bruno with McT's legendary forward bursts. Harsh on Elanga but he can come on 2nd half. Would have preferred Lindelof as well but doesn't look like he's playing and it we had any DM that's not Matic would have switched Fred as DM isn't his best position but I can't stomach watching old man Matic !
     
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  • 28% Man Utd 2:1 West Ham
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