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Manchester United 1:2 Swansea City

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    felipe said:
    Carrick's our holding midfielder but we've still conceded dozens of those goals the past years. I've said it many times that I rather sign a Xabi Alonso or Javi Martinez if we wont sign a world class box-to-box player like Vidal. If we'd sign any similar players like them all of them would've easily know that it's their job to cover up that space.

    I quite like Herrera and even though he's at fault for the conceded goal we always seem to play sh*t when he's subbed.
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    I'm referrring to Fletcher. Ander is clearly the attacking part of the duo and having played in the hole last season, is clearly going to take some time to get used to being expected to do fairly good defensive work.

    But thats okay, we have Fletcher in the team who's job is to sit deeper, keep the ball and track midfield runners so our CBs arent overloaded from areas they cant reach. He didn't do it. I mean sure Ander needs to help a bit, but Fletcher is the experienced player. He's the vice captain. And he didnt do his job
     
    REJE said:
    The handball pissed me right off, considering they were being given left right and centre during the world cup, but as soon as we get a call for one in the PL at old trafford, the rules change.
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    It wasn't even debatable, clear penalty. Only thing I'd guess the ref didn't see it. Amazing how not one word is said about it of course.
     
    Its one game. Some need to remember this and calm down. Loads of players missing and kids on the pitch.
     
    bosnian_red said:
    It wasn't even debatable, clear penalty. Only thing I'd guess the ref didn't see it. Amazing how not one word is said about it of course.
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    Talking about it seems like finding excuses for the loss, but it was a definite pen every day of the week. Would have masked a disappointing performance, but the point might prove vital later in the season.
     
    Kakeru said:
    Is that supposed to be of any comfort? We know that we need to go all guns blazing early on, especially with how our rivals improved their respective squads. Does that ring any bells?
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    No I wasn't trying to provide comfort, but it is a reminder that United do have some form of history that requires us to keep a level head even when our rivals go all guns blazing early on,

    Genuinely speaking, do you have no part of your heart or mind that believes LVG is going to make this seemingly unbalanced team of misfits come good and forge a new chapter in this clubs already great and illustrious story
     
    Van Gaal: "I know what positions we need better players, but we have to wait and see."
     
    Ekeke said:
    I'm referrring to Fletcher. Ander is clearly the attacking part of the duo and having played in the hole last season, is clearly going to take some time to get used to being expected to do fairly good defensive work.

    But thats okay, we have Fletcher in the team who's job is to sit deeper, keep the ball and track midfield runners so our CBs arent overloaded from areas they cant reach. He didn't do it. I mean sure Ander needs to help a bit, but Fletcher is the experienced player. He's the vice captain. And he didnt do his job
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    He past his days.
     
    hellhunter said:
    Talking about it seems like finding excuses for the loss, but it was a definite pen every day of the week. Would have masked a disappointing performance, but the point might prove vital later in the season.
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    Yeah, it's not an excuse, we should have had a clear penalty and although we were poor, we still comfortably outplayed them. They went forward a handful of times and only looked better after the fellaini sub if anything. Before that it was all united with the odd counter from them.
     
    I just wanna say something. Its going to take time for van Gaal to get his system to work in the PL. He need to back him up right now. We can't blame him and Woodward for everything. Yes we need players but that is not the only problem here. Don't go around trying to find the fault because its not one single thing to blame. We need to show our true support when none wants to do it.

    We need to humble right now so we don't destroy the confident to the players and the staff. Let them get time even its going to take this season too. ignore all the doomsayers right now.
     
    Young was awfull - at fault for both goals

    Blackett -- clear liability - at fault for the first goal, easily taken out of play when Gomis had his chance and Jones had to make the last ditch tackle

    Smalling - another liability - at fault for the first goal, was easily turned around like a schoolboy

    CB position needs serious reinforcements
     
    Have I been in a coma for 40 years and just dreamt of the success. We look as poor as we did in the 1970s - some of you younger guys may have to get used to this. Looking at the Chelsea and City squads, I'd say we cannot afford to lose three or four games at most all season.
     
    Fritz said:
    Young was awfull - at fault for both goals

    Blackett -- clear liability - at fault for the first goal, easily taken out of play when Gomis had his chance and Jones had to make the last ditch tackle

    Smalling - another liability - at fault for the first goal, was easily turned around like a schoolboy

    CB position needs serious reinforcements
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    Jones very poor too. Three at the back will only work with three top, top-class defenders. We have no defenders of the quality of past United teams: Neville, Irwin, Pally, Bruce, Rio, Vid...
     
    Fritz said:
    Young was awfull - at fault for both goals

    Blackett -- clear liability - at fault for the first goal    , easily taken out of play when Gomis had his chance and Jones had to make the last ditch tackle

    Smalling - another liability - at fault for the first goal, was easily turned around like a schoolboy

    CB position needs serious reinforcements
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    How does that work?
     
    TBH this has been coming for a long while, no no no it is not a knee jerk. Knees don't jerk over a 3-4 year period. We need quality because we don't have it.
     
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    LeeFunK said:
    Van Gaal looked murderous!!!
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    He should be disappointed with himself first. I made a couple of terrible decisions. Though Fletcher and Mata were ananymous he substituted Herrera for Feillani and Nani for Hernandez. For me that is worse than Moyes subs
     
    Manchie said:
    He should be disappointed with himself first. I made a couple of terrible decisions. Though Fletcher and Mata were ananymous he substituted Herrera for Feillani and Nani for Hernandez. For me that is worse than Moyes subs
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    Don't be so hard on yourself :) .
     
    GarryKasparov said:
    His performance was laughable, like all our midfielders. He played every ball back to the defenders, Cleverley 2.0.
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    :lol: ffs the state of some people on here. Guess you didn't notice all the energy and pressing along win the neat touches he added to the team then? Pretty consistent passing too. There was nothing wrong with him today. Fletcher was shit, fellaini was shit. Herrera was the only one who played well.
     
    Freak said:
    Does LVG still need to assess this shower of shit?
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    Giggsy played two youngster last season and we were better. Today, van Gaal used two players and we did not look dangerous. I hope we have a plan there to deal with the next game.
     
    bosnian_red said:
    :lol: ffs the state of some people on here. Guess you didn't notice all the energy and pressing along win the neat touches he added to the team then? Pretty consistent passing too. There was nothing wrong with him today. Fletcher was shit, fellaini was shit. Herrera was the only one who played well.
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    Was Fellaini even that bad? I think we suffered more from taking off Herrera than subbing on Fellaini, if that makes any sense.
     
    Fritz said:
    Young was awfull - at fault for both goals

    Blackett -- clear liability - at fault for the first goal, easily taken out of play when Gomis had his chance and Jones had to make the last ditch tackle

    Smalling - another liability - at fault for the first goal, was easily turned around like a schoolboy

    CB position needs serious reinforcements
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    so who was supposed to track KI?

    He was left with yards of space, as always our midfield gets over-ran
     
    hellhunter said:
    Was Fellaini even that bad? I think we suffered more from taking off Herrera than subbing on Fellaini, if that makes any sense.
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    Yeah mostly with herreras pressing and energy gone I think. Fellaini didn't really do anything though. He didn't have much time but in that time he forced mata deeper and was a target man...
     
    That game today just mirrored last season exactly. I never expected to see a lack of urgency in the game today, but it's exactly what we got. Very disappointing from the attacking players especially. As I said at half time, I expected the defensive errors as we adapt to the new, but never foresaw a situation where we would be so blunt going forward.
     
    Ekeke said:
    I'm referrring to Fletcher. Ander is clearly the attacking part of the duo and having played in the hole last season, is clearly going to take some time to get used to being expected to do fairly good defensive work.

    But thats okay, we have Fletcher in the team who's job is to sit deeper, keep the ball and track midfield runners so our CBs arent overloaded from areas they cant reach. He didn't do it. I mean sure Ander needs to help a bit, but Fletcher is the experienced player. He's the vice captain. And he didnt do his job
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    Yes, I agree mate, but look at these pictures below. It's mainly Fletchers fault because he has to cover up that space but if he's not doing that, Ander has to cover up.

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    sugaspott said:
    No I wasn't trying to provide comfort, but it is a reminder that United do have some form of history that requires us to keep a level head even when our rivals go all guns blazing early on,

    Genuinely speaking, do you have no part of your heart or mind that believes LVG is going to make this seemingly unbalanced team of misfits come good and forge a new chapter in this clubs already great and illustrious story
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    LVG will get the job done only on the day he does something that neither of his 2 predecessors had the balls to do: drop/excommunicate/sell the misfits and show no mercy for those who are just not good enough. We have been using the excuse of "maintaining a family spirit" to keep shite and technically inept players for too long now. This has to stop and I know LVG can do it, but he must do it quickly.
     
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