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    De Gea
    Rafael Smalling Evans Shaw
    Herrera Carrick Di Maria
    Mata
    Rooney - Falcao​
    - Its about time we play a back four.
    - Rooney needs to go back to natural role, displacing RVP, who can come on later to replace whoever out the 3 is struggling.
    - My midfield 3 is the best thing we have available, it maybe lightweight but Rooney will always help out with the physicality.

    I'm hoping RVP doesn't start, his partnership with Wazza is not great, his partnership with falcao is disasterous, we all know Wazza can team up with anyone so there's not issue on that side plus Rooney prefers a No.9 rather than RVP who likes to roam around. If Wazza comes deep, it guarantee's Mata a place in the box or on the edge, Rooney can'y help it but to come deep to get involved that will definitely help out Falcao, when defenders are preocupied with a star studded midfield that is also trying to get in the box.

    If RVP does start, Falcao and Mata both have to dropped in favour of a flat 4-4-1-1 stick Januzaj down the left, Di Maria down the right, Rooney in behind RVP.

    lvg says he might not risk Rafael :nervous: Back five
     
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    Don't want to see it, but I think we'll play this.

    De Gea
    Jones - Smalling - Rojo
    Valencia - Carrick - Rooney - Shaw
    Mata
    van Persie - Di Maria​

    I fear more like

    DDG
    Jones Smalling McNair
    Valencia -Carrick - Herrera - Shaw
    Rooney
    Van Persie - Di Maria
    Because If Valencia moves up, the defense can slide into a back 4.
    Also, if width is needed, Di Maria can easily slide to the left, turning us into a 4-3-3 of sorts or known here at United as a 4-4-1-1 with Rooney in behind RVP.
    Although the flexibility is a huge plus, at home it is not worth being so fearful, plus the back five is guaranteed to either lose Shaw + Valencia to deep position or in reverse leave the defense in no mans-land with 81 back passes to De Gea.

    LVG's philosophy will be under the spotlight if we can carry on with back passes and long balls and with 2 strikers with no chemistry. This is not 1975, its 2015 and we are leading the table on back passes and long balls.
     
    Does anyone else think he might do this:

    3-5-2
    DDG

    Rafael - Smalling - Carrick - Jones - Shaw/Rojo

    Blind - Di Maria

    Mata/Rooney

    Rooney/Falcao - RvP

    Carrick was excellent against Liverpool in that position. He brought some much needed composure to our defence. I think the only reason he hasn't played there since is because Fletcher wasn't able to do the job required, so Carrick had to move back into midfield. Now that Blind is back, he can do the job that Fletcher couldn't, therefore Carrick might be moved back into the defence.
     
    Semi off-topic, but I don't know why Nani isn't here and we didn't figure out some other incentive to complete the Rojo deal.

    At home, this looks like our most balanced lineup to me:

    -----RVP/Falcao-----
    ----Rooney/Mata---Nani
    -DiMaria-----Herrera-
    ------Carrick--------
    Shaw------------Rafael
    ----Smalling-Jones---
    --------De Gea------

    Everyone but the CB's is good on the ball and in their proper position. Might struggle not to concede too much away, but at home, we need wins.
     
    Does anyone else think he might do this:

    3-5-2
    DDG

    Rafael - Smalling - Carrick - Jones - Shaw/Rojo

    Blind - Di Maria

    Mata/Rooney

    Rooney/Falcao - RvP

    Carrick was excellent against Liverpool in that position. He brought some much needed composure to our defence. I think the only reason he hasn't played there since is because Fletcher wasn't able to do the job required, so Carrick had to move back into midfield. Now that Blind is back, he can do the job that Fletcher couldn't, therefore Carrick might be moved back into the defence.

    My fear here would be that Pelle could post up on Carrick and it would be easy for Southampton to counter by hitting it long to him and playing off of that, as they did for Mane's goal against Chelsea. I was a bit surprised just how often they've been doing that in their games, but I guess I mostly watch them against good teams and it isn't ineffective.

    In some ways, it's an argument to play 4 at the back, since only Smalling and Jones can be trusted not to get physically dominated by Pelle.
     
    Valdes with number 32, eh? To me it's a strikers number. See Christian Vieri (Tevez).
     
    So full team, who do you guys think will be in the team, including subs.

    I think Fellaini will play.


    ------------- De Gea -------------
    Valencia Jones Smalling Shaw
    ------------- Carrick -------------
    ------ Fellaini --- Di Maria ------
    ------------- Rooney -------------
    ---- Van Persie --- Falcao -----

    Subs: Rafael, Rojo, Herrera, Wilson, Valdes, Blind, Mata

    Note, I do think Rafael is better than Valencia as a RB but I think Valencia will get the nod. I think Shaw will start as LB over Rojo but it's possible that Rojo might start.

    Against Southampton's tall players, I expect Fellaini to start. He is also good at disrupting gameplay in the middle. Di Maria will start and Rooney too while unfortunately Mata will be relegated to the bench.

    Smalling and Jones to start as our CB pair.
     
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    what i want to see:
    ---------------DDG
    rafael - evans - jones - shaw
    -------------federer
    januzaj--mata-- herrera -- di maria
    -------------rooney
    Why do you want an ageing tennis player holding the the midfield?
     
    Why do you want an ageing tennis player holding the the midfield?

    When I was newer, my posts never got noticed so I figured I'd throw that in there for fun. Now it's become a habit, albeit a really lame and shit one.

    Although since it's a lineup I'd like to see, I'd still be happy to see Federer play even if it's not in tennis.
     
    When I was newer, my posts never got noticed so I figured I'd throw that in there for fun. Now it's become a habit, albeit a really lame and shit one.

    Although since it's a lineup I'd like to see, I'd still be happy to see Federer play even if it's not in tennis.
    :lol: Fair enough thought it was a autocorrect for Fellaini
     
    When I was newer, my posts never got noticed so I figured I'd throw that in there for fun. Now it's become a habit, albeit a really lame and shit one.

    Although since it's a lineup I'd like to see, I'd still be happy to see Federer play even if it's not in tennis.

    If successful it will prove once again that LVG is the best trainer-coach in the world. Out doing the bastian schweinsteiger conversion... Plus he would be on the free.
    Fooking Genius.
     
    Now all our defenders are fit LVG will be able to play his preferred system. And contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, I am of the opinion that is not 3-5-2.

    We shall find out once and for all, in this game.
    My gut feeling is that he prefers and will use 352, but we must wait and see.
     
    de Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
    Carrick
    Herrera di Maria
    Mata
    van Persie Rooney​
    Pretty please.
     
    This is what i would like to see:

    --------------------DeGea--------------------
    Rafael/Valencia-Smalling-Rojo/Jones-Shaw
    --------------------Carrick--------------------
    ------------Fellaini--------Rooney------------
    -------------------Herrera--------------------
    -----------DiMaria--------vPersie------------

    Since they probably will use Tadic and Long on the flanks i don't see our fullbacks getting exposed, Tadic drifts inside alot and Long is just inconsistent.

    We need muscle in the middle against Wanyama and Schneiderlin, Herrera and Di Maria would get run over IMO.

    2-1 United! :)
     
    This is what i would like to see:

    --------------------DeGea--------------------
    Rafael/Valencia-Smalling-Rojo/Jones-Shaw
    --------------------Carrick--------------------
    ------------Fellaini--------Rooney------------
    -------------------Herrera--------------------
    -----------DiMaria--------vPersie------------

    Since they probably will use Tadic and Long on the flanks i don't see our fullbacks getting exposed, Tadic drifts inside alot and Long is just inconsistent.

    We need muscle in the middle against Wanyama and Schneiderlin, Herrera and Di Maria would get run over IMO.

    2-1 United! :)
    Why on earth would you play DiMaria and Rooney out of position when you could swap them and fix it? Agree that Fellaini should play though. Need muscle.
     
    Ask Van Gaal.
    I'm pretty sure he will field Rooney as AMC tomorrow and DiMaria as left central midfielder. He hasn't played Rooney in central midfield when DiMaria has been available has he?
     
    Why on earth would you play DiMaria and Rooney out of position when you could swap them and fix it? Agree that Fellaini should play though. Need muscle.

    I just think he adds some much needed pace to our attack, but he can also do that from midfield so i wouldn't be unhappy with that ;)
     
    FFS it feels like its been forever since we played a game cant wait for tomorrow!

    The squad is pretty much full but I think fitness will play a factor into the selection. Hopefully we'll be more dominant than we were away.
     
    I'm pretty sure he will field Rooney as AMC tomorrow and DiMaria as left central midfielder. He hasn't played Rooney in central midfield when DiMaria has been available has he?

    Against the ten men of Villa?
     
    Could get a spanking, could be very close and we could play extremely well continuing our good home form. I cannot predict this game and certainly wouldn't bet on it, but they're definitely top four contenders. It wasn't a purple patch, they're a good team.

    We need four at the back for an extra CM to match them up. Schneiderlin and Wanyama, with either Cork, or Ward Prowse is more than capable of dominating the CM area if we allow it.

    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
    Carrick
    ADM Blind
    Herrera
    RvP Rooney​
     
    Just me who doesn't expect di Maria to start tomorrow? He's only had 30mins vs Yeovil since his injury and with LVG's strict policy for players coming back from injury, I think it'll be another sub appearance for him.
     
    I expect to see: DDG - Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Shaw - Carrick, Rooney, Mata, Herrera - RVP, Di Maria

    If we're playing 3-5-2, Carrick in defense and Herrera deeper.
     
    Just me who doesn't expect di Maria to start tomorrow? He's only had 30mins vs Yeovil since his injury and with LVG's strict policy for players coming back from injury, I think it'll be another sub appearance for him.
    So long as his leg is still attached to his pelvis correctly, he needs to start.
     
    Be interesting to see if we stop with the 3-5-2 now that our highest performing player in that formation is injured, and everyone else is fit.

    Let's fecking hope so.
     
    It'll be a back four. I'm sure of that. We'll probably play narrow because the wide players we have at the moment are not particularly efficient in attack. I hope I'm wrong though because mixing it up always helps. If Luke Shaw ups his attack then we are safe. We'll probably play the 4-3-1-2 as some have suggested but I'm not too sure about how we'll line up our midfield and attack.
     
    big game for us. At home against a capable side which has the merits to push us out of the top 4. Gotta put our stake in the ground and prove we are good enough.
     
    Missing tomorrow's game because of a flight. Anyone know how soon these games are uploaded to certain sites (so I can report them of course)? If it's soon after the game is over, will just stay away from all scores and watch the whole thing without knowing the score. But if it's the next day, then forget it.
     
    Would be a massive game to win but I get the feeling it'll be a score draw. We have most players back but quite a few arent match-fit yet so its still going to be a make-shift team.
     
    De Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
    Carrick
    Herrera Di Maria
    Mata
    Rooney van Persie
    Bench: Valdes, Rojo, McNair, Blind, Januzaj, Wilson, Falcao.

    Fingers Crossed for 4 at the back ey.
     
    We really need to win this tomorrow (today)

    Other clubs are slowly catching up and we were dross away at the moment so need to win every home game, I think we will but also think they will score so hopefully we score more, a back 4 of Rafa/Val, Jones, Smalling and Shaw with carrick just in front please
     
    There's going to be so much moaning in here tomorrow when its a 3-5-2 and none of Rafael, Rojo, Blind, Herrera or Di Maria start.
     
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  • 27% Man Utd 2:1 Southampton
  • 17% Man Utd 3:1 Southampton
  • 16% Man Utd 2:0 Southampton
  • 8% Man Utd 3:0 Southampton
  • 6% Man Utd 1:1 Southampton
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