Manchester United 4:1 Real Betis

mancan92 · Mar 9, 2023

Tom Van Persie said:
Dropping one player from that shitshow on Sunday would send the wrong message. ten Hag knows what he's doing with this selection.

Not really some players have some genuine competition. Give those players a chance especially people like sancho who needs games

Ronaldo's ego · Mar 9, 2023

Unam333 said:
Today these players need to set things right and put in a really good performance, because the fanbase is really divided right now and understandably so.

On what?

Sammy McIlroys fan club · Mar 9, 2023

No changes is a really bad idea. Both from a freshness point of view and also what does it say to the players on the bench? Play crap, concede seven and keep your place? Not for me. Bad decision regardless of tonight's result

SATA · Mar 9, 2023

Let’s hope Old Trafford will turn on these lot if they pull the same crap again today

Oldyella · Mar 9, 2023

sunama said:
If they fail, we could end up getting dumped out of the EL.
Remember, these are the players who conceded 7 goals in 90 minutes [6 goals in 45 minutes].

It's also the side that had been the form side in the country. Yes it all went wrong at weekend, he can't drop them all.

RedBanker · Mar 9, 2023

Same lineup as the 7-0? :lol:

evil_geko · Mar 9, 2023

RedBanker said:
Same lineup as the 7-0?

Yes, same. :lol:

Brwned · Mar 9, 2023

I like the call to play the same XI. Make them accountable for their own mistakes and force them to sort things out themselves. Or expect to spend a long time on the bench.

AdNani · Mar 9, 2023

evil_geko said:
Yes, same.

Pretty obvious he's giving the players a chance to see things right.

SATA · Mar 9, 2023

Just curious, what team did Fergie put out in the next game right after we lost 1-6 at home to City? Was it the same XI?

RedBanker · Mar 9, 2023

evil_geko said:
Yes, same.

Great

HookedOnAPhelan · Mar 9, 2023

Excellent decision by Ten Hag to start the same 11. They all fecked up, so give them a chance to repair some of the damage.

Sviken · Mar 9, 2023

I don't know how to feel about this. Some players like Shaw and Fernandes definitely need to be 'punished'. This might send the wrong message to the players that their place in the team is guaranteed to matter how shit they play.

evil_geko · Mar 9, 2023

AdNani said:
Pretty obvious he's giving the players a chance to see things right.

I know, I was just making fun of his knee jerk post.

HookedOnAPhelan · Mar 9, 2023

Sviken said:
I don't know how to feel about this. Some players like Shaw and Fernandes definitely need to be 'punished'. This might send the wrong message to the players that their place in the team is guaranteed to matter how shit they play.

It's a great call. If they play shit again today they will definitely be out of the team.

2 man midfield · Mar 9, 2023

He can’t drop them all, makes sense that as punishment they don’t get a night off

AdNani · Mar 9, 2023

sunama said:
If they fail, we could end up getting dumped out of the EL.
Remember, these are the players who conceded 7 goals in 90 minutes [6 goals in 45 minutes].

it's also basically the team that beat Barcelona and won the Carabao Cup

King7Eric · Mar 9, 2023

Licha-Vidic said:
Who do you think should face such consequences?

Dalot, DDG, McTominay for a start. It should be made clear they are gonna be sold in the summer. Similarly Antony and Bruno should be dropped for a while.

SATA · Mar 9, 2023

Did they all run 42km the next day? I hope they all did

AdNani · Mar 9, 2023

evil_geko said:
I know, I was just making fun of his knee jerk post.

ah ok

djembatheking · Mar 9, 2023

Good to see Weggy starting, we fell apart when he was taken off at the weekend.

mancan92 · Mar 9, 2023

Im sorry theres no excuse. Some players deserve a second chance. We know who those players are. We also know the players who dont. And those players have some vlear competition who deserve games.

What does turning up against a 50year old betis team prove? It's not like we are playi g against world beaters tonight. If they don't win they are disgrace if they do its expected. What is there to gain?

Drifter · Mar 9, 2023

Think we will bounce back . 3-1

Strootman's Finger · Mar 9, 2023

Unam333 said:
It's mental, isn't is? On Sunday I was like: shit happens. However, the last couple of days I felt absolutely sick and gutted. Today these players need to set things right and put in a really good performance, because the fanbase is really divided right now and understandably so.

This is the most united our fanbase has seemed in a long time.

Pexbo · Mar 9, 2023

sunama said:
If they fail, we could end up getting dumped out of the EL.
Remember, these are the players who conceded 7 goals in 90 minutes [6 goals in 45 minutes].

They’re also our best XI who have barely let us down this season. Should he have replaced all 11 of them?

nakpodiareuben · Mar 9, 2023

Ronaldo's ego said:
On what?

Fanbase is divided about what?

OmarUnited4ever · Mar 9, 2023

SATA said:
Just curious, what team did Fergie put out in the next game right after we lost 1-6 at home to City? Was it the same XI?

I can't remember but I am sure it wasn't the same 11 since Evans was sent off

Murder on Zidanes Floor · Mar 9, 2023

Chief123 said:
Can’t believe he’s 41 years old!

I remember signing him every time on Championship Manager in 2000/2001 some TWENTY years ago :lol:

Insane.

BarstoolProphet · Mar 9, 2023

SATA said:
Just curious, what team did Fergie put out in the next game right after we lost 1-6 at home to City? Was it the same XI?

Nah, I remember he made a few changes.

McGrathsipan · Mar 9, 2023

Pexbo said:
Why are people surprised? He’s setting them a challenge to see how they respond to adversity

We saw how on Sunday eh ?

Camy89 · Mar 9, 2023

If I was a player that played in the 7-0 pumping, I’d be ridiculously fired up for tonight. I’d have a kind of ‘THIS is what I can do’ attitude and would absolutely go for it. I’d want the fans on side. I’d want to pump Betis.

MUFC OK · Mar 9, 2023

Cheimoon said:
Saying this sort of thing, it seems that you assume that no conversations have been held about last Sunday, what Ten Hag is looking for today to start setting things right, and what that means for last Sunday's starters and bench.

Or how else do you think these things go behind the scenes and lead to this line-up? Purely Ten Hag insisting on proving himself right over everyone's backs? Sheer dumbness? Blackmail? (I'll let @rimaldo come up with interesting scenarios for that last option)

I’m sure they were informed. Those players will still be pissed off, whatever ten hag is looking to do. If your competition plays like many did on Sunday, you have a right to expect a chance as a result of that underperformance.

Amar__ · Mar 9, 2023

SATA said:
Just curious, what team did Fergie put out in the next game right after we lost 1-6 at home to City? Was it the same XI?

Amar__ said:
Anyone defending the same eleven is blindly in love with ETH, no two ways about it.

Even if you make a point about having the same XI redeeming themselves(even though I am not sure how beating Betis would redeem 7-0 against Liverpool?), it's still the same players who have played ridiculous amount of games and some of them need a fecking rest. His managing of the squad should be questionable at this point, because players don't feel fresh, and yet he is insisting on same eleven.

And if Weghorst starts as number ten, there is absolutely no way to defend the selection. In that case people would basically agree that he is better player than Sancho.

Edit: just for bit of comparision, this is how SAF did it:

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/5...e-2011-2012-Manchester-United-Manchester-City

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/5...er-League-2011-2012-Everton-Manchester-United

5 changes, and few of players that started the game disappear for few weeks/months.

...

Murder on Zidanes Floor · Mar 9, 2023

Out of interest who is everyone's second favourite team in Spain?

I like Bilbao (ex was Basque) and Deportivo La Coruna as my Grandad was out there post WW2

MUFC OK · Mar 9, 2023

pacifictheme said:
Why? No place to hide, go out and make amends etc.

Because he’s consistently towed the line about ‘standards’.

MUFC OK · Mar 9, 2023

pauldyson1uk said:
100 % disagree with you, Unchanged is really the best response

Of course, you’d have said the same if he changed 7 outfield players.

Rayman96 · Mar 9, 2023

Fatigue issue apart, I get what he is thinking.
He could have dropped the lot of them but that would never happen so if he dropped a couple the the media headline becomes " ETH blames ...... for Anfield disaster".
You know how they love to stir it up with Utd.

Camy89 · Mar 9, 2023

Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Out of interest who is everyone's second favourite team in Spain?

I like Bilbao (ex was Basque) and Deportivo La Coruna as my Grandad was out there post WW2

Tenerife. I love how they play on different islands for home games.

Edit: checked this afterwards, I’m not sure they actually do but I feel there is a club who rotate around the islands…whoever it is, them.

JagUTD · Mar 9, 2023

Fully understand why people are surprised he's not dropped anyone but look at it from Ten Hags position. Most of this line up are the same players who have delivered the best form in the country since the world cup up until Sunday. So do you base everything on one game, or 20?

I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing and I think he's probably earnt our trust at this point.

BarstoolProphet · Mar 9, 2023

You could argue that everyone was bad so hard to pick out only a few as fall guys, so better to start the same eleven. Or maybe he will just sub five players immediately after kickoff as a punishment

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