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    No way I watching this. At least I have an excuse not being home and all. There isn't a place in Denmark that shows this game or so I am told.
     
    Onana
    Dalot Maguire Varane Reguilon
    Casemiro Amrabat
    Mount Bruno Rashford
    Hojlund


    Tough game I’d take the point
     
    I'd go:

    Onana
    Dalot - Varane - Maguire - Reguilon
    Amrabat - Casemiro - Mount
    Eriksen
    Hojlund - Rashford​


    Bruno is in awful form and could be the one to play a killer ball like last time we played them but I think Eriksen can also do that plus give us better ball retention so we aren't pinned in all game.
     
    Be a laugh to reference 115 everywhere.

    Change all the bus numbers to 115.
    Charge City fans a special price of 115p for refreshments.
    Sell away tickets for £11.50
    Stop the stadium clock at 1:15.
    Put 0-115 on the scoreboard.
    Change the away dressing to Room 115.
    Put 115 soaps into their showers.
    Get players 11&5 to walk in front of them on the way out to the pitch.


    I think every time they play away, the home side should do shit like this, eventually it would get under their skin and annoy the hell out of them. Pep would have a major meltdown.
     
    Onana

    Dalot Lindelof Varane Maguire Reguilon

    Mount Casemiro Eriksen

    Rasmus Rashford

    I think this and the diamond are the formations we can play without a rw. Just kill the position until we develop or stumble across a rw.
     
    flappyjay said:
    Onana

    Dalot Lindelof Varane Maguire Reguilon

    Mount Casemiro Eriksen

    Rasmus Rashford

    I think this and the diamond are the formations we can play without a rw. Just kill the position until we develop or stumble across a rw.
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    Sad considering the manager spent 90m on a RW that he’d worked with previously…guess that’s a discussion for a different thread. £150m on Antony and Sancho…fecking criminal
     
    Imagine at the beginning of the season I told you that every single person in the matchday thread would have Harry Maguire starting as Centre Back vs. Man City.
     
    simonhch said:
    Posted this is another thread, but more apt in here:

    I have to ask myself right now what I want from each component of the team, and then it more or less picks itself. This question is answered differently game to game. The challenges and expectations posed by Sheffield United are very different to Manchester City. This is why you have a squad of players, and why you rarely stick to the same line up game after game. Having an idea of your best XI is good, but using it to death makes you predictable and tired, and I think we've seen an abundance of that this season. Fergie was the master of rotation. A different XI for each occasion, tailored to the opposition. It's what made us so good.

    So City, what do we want from the team? Well we know City are going to hog the ball, whether we like it or not. That's a given. We also know they are going to play a high line. That tells us two things. 1. When we get the ball we have to treat it with care, not waste possession because we won't get it very often. 2. We are going to pose our biggest threat on the counter at pace. So I want speed, directness and flair up front. In defence, I am not looking to play a patient passing game out from the back, because City press from the front better than anyone. I am looking for defensive solidity.

    So my line up would be:

    Onana - Amrabat, Varane, Maguire, Lindelof - Casemiro, Eriksen, Mount - Garnacho, Rashford, Hojlund

    Dalot needs a rest. He's played every game and I prefer the combativeness of Amrabat against City and his ability to step into midfield. Then we've got three pure defenders in Varane, Maguire, Lindelof. In midfield I've sacrificed Bruno. Love the man but he's played every game, he gets overplayed, and no player should be a guaranteed start. But the main reason I've sacrificed him is because while he creates the best chances, he's also very careless with the ball. He's a high risk/high reward type of player. He's going to turn it over as much as he finds a team mate, because he's always looking for a killer pass. Against City that is going to hurt us, because it'll just come back at us constantly. Casemiro is a must to anchor that midfield, and Eriksen and Mount are ball handlers. They will keep possession and treat the ball with more care, and we are going to need that to take the pressure off. Eriksen is one of the best players in the league at breaking the lines with his passing, so I see him as vital to setting Rashord and Garnacho away.

    Up front I want the pace and directness of Garnacho and Rashford. To stretch that back line and look to get in behind. It will be our primary threat. Hojlund is there for his ability to bring others into play and hold it up to take the pressure off.

    On the bench that is going to leave us with some good options. Fernandes, Martial, McTominay, Antony etc.

    Is this the right line up? I'm not sure. Won't know until we play, but what it represents is this need to rotate and tailor our game for the occasion. I feel like Erik is so desperate to succeed that he is putting his best XI available out every game and he's running them into the ground. And just because Bruno, for example, is the captain and maybe best player, doesn't mean he has to play every game, or is right for every game. We have to start looking at the season as the collection of 60+ matches that it is, and utilise the squad better. Everything about this club is viewed with short-termism in mind and not holistically. And that seems to have spread to the manager. He needs to show more faith in his squad, start rotating, and start tailoring his line ups and the way we play to unqiue challenges of each opponent.
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    Thank god you're not our manager.
     
    --------------------Onana

    Dalot--Varane--Maguire--Lindelof

    ------Casemiro--Amrabat--Mount

    --------------------Bruno

    -----------Hojlund--Rashford



    1-3.
     
    City are not during on all cylinders, with a good United team they'd be there for the taking. Fkng hell Wolves turned them over a few weeks ago, why should we be so scared of them?!

    The thing is, we've been crap too and barely scraping wins against pretty poor opposition. A continuation of that form won't be good enough against City.

    I expect City to have most of the possession and us to play on the counter which I'm hoping will suit Rashford and help him produce his best performance of the season, because Lord knows he's very ineffective against a deep lying defence.

    I'm also hoping that this game will suit Maguire as he'll be able to sit deeper than usual and going up against a big physical centre forward (albeit one of the best in the world) should be right up his alley. I'd worry more for him against Alvarez!

    Logically everything points to a comfortable City win but at my most optimistic, I'm going 1-1.
     
    City are their usual, early season fare... not really flying, but getting results. I think this may be tough for us. If he changes up the team, some new energy, we could, could surprise them. But I don't think ETH will do that.
     
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    Jeffthered said:
    City are there usual, early season fare... not really flying, but getting results. I think this may be tough for us. If he changes up the team, some new energy, we could, could surprise them. But I don't think ETH will do that.
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    He might. Against top teams he has been known to change tactics a bit.
     
    Unless we resort to defending deep and counter attacking, this will get ugly. This is one team you don't show up with an undercooked pressing strategy leaving gaps behind in midfield. Bernardo Silva tears us to shreds every time.
     
    is there a bet somewhere on cutback goals allowd for this game? Betting we see at least one go in against united. Double so if we start with a midfield base of eriksen-casemiro. Would almost be a sure amount on the bet.
     
    At first I thought thank god Michael Oliver isn’t the referee AGAIN.
    But I’ve just checked and Oliver is on VAR duties for this match…
     
    Nickelodeon said:
    Not sure how we are always going into these games where avoiding a thumping is the only expectation. Something has got to give.
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    Well, our recent record is terrible and includes many humiliating moments against MCFC.
    It is sad that we are basically the team that they use to get easy 3 points, while working on their goal difference.

    Regardless though, the players must try their best and attempt to win. It's 11 vs 11 on the day and MCFC players are not superhuman.
     
    The only way we can get a result is to sit deep and compact hitting them on the counter attack with balls over the top and the front 3 swapping.

    Onana

    Dalot
    Varane
    Maguire
    Reguilion

    Casemiro
    Eriksen
    Bruno

    Rashford
    Martial
    Garnacho

    McTominay and Hojilund off the bench when Martial gets injured and Eriksen is knackered.

    PS. why did we sign Mount…
     
    Just watching AVB's Chelsea vs United on Sky Sports PL coming from 3-0 to draw 3-3. How good we were, and this was not one of our better teams by the way, I reckon it was just before RVP came and took us up a level.
    We laugh at Scholes' tackling, but going by this game, it's better than most of our current midfielders - dispossessed Essien a few times.

    DDGs saves were something else
     
    On Sunday our biggest issue isn't even the midfield, It's Reguilon and Dalot. We have a really lousy left-back going up against Doku who isn't even as good as people think he is and Dalot going up against Grealish who is elite in the give-and-go. Reguilon is the biggest weak link for us. He is very shady defensively and all over the place. Dalot on the other hand has also never dominated a good winger and Grealish is elite in the stuff he does. I think the FBs are going to make or break this for us. I don't trust Reguilon at all and would rather risk Lindeloff there. It's not ideal but it should be less bad than a clue-less player like Reguilon playing there against a man-city team that knows how to drag us left and right

    In the midfield, I think he will play Casemiro, Amrabat and Bruno... Anthony with Rashford and Hojlund up front. If Ten Hag had the guts he would play Mount over Bruno. I see several calls to start Eriksen but Eriksen is not very useful against teams that dominate us. In the FA Cup final, he was absolutely useless for us because he can't press or tackle when we don't have the ball and we won't have much of it on Sunday. Him playing off the bench is actually the best way for us to use him. He comes on and exerts himself for 45 minutes max and can compete when they are tired.

    I would push to play all our hard-working fielders on Sunday rather than Bruno and Anthony...so that means playing a midfield of Casemiro, Amrabat, Mount, and Hannibal...with Rashford (he doesn't track back a lot) and Hojlund in front in straight up 4-2-2-2. Garnacho, Bruno, Eriksen, Anthony, and Martial can all come off the bench to either extend the lead or find a goal...but we need to be in the game for them to even be in this position, and that requires players who can press aggressively with a lot of energy for the counter attack
     
    Can we rest Rashford and Bruno both? I feel like Hannibal, Mount, Amrabat, and Eriksen could do a lot more damage. Maybe even start Garnacho to keep their fullbacks honest. I think if we set up and play the way we have been, we will get pummeled. Maybe EtH can throw a surprise lineup that completely bewilders Pep.
     
    Glorio said:
    Just watching AVB's Chelsea vs United on Sky Sports PL coming from 3-0 to draw 3-3. How good we were, and this was not one of our better teams by the way, I reckon it was just before RVP came and took us up a level.
    We laugh at Scholes' tackling, but going by this game, it's better than most of our current midfielders - dispossessed Essien a few times.

    DDGs saves were something else
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    Yeah it’s funny that. Cos obviously back then we didn’t think those were great teams but they were scoring 90 goals a season and when you watch back you realise some of the off the ball movement from Welbeck, Chicho, Rooney etc is like another planet to the cones we have now.
     
    Mwooyo said:
    On Sunday our biggest issue isn't even the midfield, It's Reguilon and Dalot. We have a really lousy left-back going up against Doku who isn't even as good as people think he is and Dalot going up against Grealish who is elite in the give-and-go. Reguilon is the biggest weak link for us. He is very shady defensively and all over the place. Dalot on the other hand has also never dominated a good winger and Grealish is elite in the stuff he does. I think the FBs are going to make or break this for us. I don't trust Reguilon at all and would rather risk Lindeloff there. It's not ideal but it should be less bad than a clue-less player like Reguilon playing there against a man-city team that knows how to drag us left and right

    In the midfield, I think he will play Casemiro, Amrabat and Bruno... Anthony with Rashford and Hojlund up front. If Ten Hag had the guts he would play Mount over Bruno. I see several calls to start Eriksen but Eriksen is not very useful against teams that dominate us. In the FA Cup final, he was absolutely useless for us because he can't press or tackle when we don't have the ball and we won't have much of it on Sunday. Him playing off the bench is actually the best way for us to use him. He comes on and exerts himself for 45 minutes max and can compete when they are tired.

    I would push to play all our hard-working fielders on Sunday rather than Bruno and Anthony...so that means playing a midfield of Casemiro, Amrabat, Mount, and Hannibal...with Rashford (he doesn't track back a lot) and Hojlund in front in straight up 4-2-2-2. Garnacho, Bruno, Eriksen, Anthony, and Martial can all come off the bench to either extend the lead or find a goal...but we need to be in the game for them to even be in this position, and that requires players who can press aggressively with a lot of energy for the counter attack
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    Yeah I agree with most of this. Good post!
     
    I miss me a good Martinez..

    Onana

    Dalot Lindelof Varane Evans Reguilon

    Mount Casemiro McT

    Hojlund Rashford
     
    Not concerned about this match. It will be a spirited 1-3 defeat.

    Its the Liverpool match that worries me. The game-raising cnuts will thump us by a big margin again.
     
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