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    Although I'd love to see a decent performace after that horror show during the week, I'd take any sort of win tomorrow. One nil from a rebound off the ref's head, anything.

    Gotta get 3 points on the board with the scouse and Spurs playing each other on Sunday.
     
    sully1 said:
    look at you under evaluating Rashfords performance just because you like Lakaku

    how many goals has Lakaku got against Chelsea, Arsenal, City since Rashford made his debut in the PL?

    shambolic stuff .

    And most importantly where was Lakaku yesterday ? the Spurs CB's were on vacation mate
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    Underevaluting? Rashford didn't do anything worth evaluting the past 2 month. I love the kid and hope he workd his way into the team, but at current form you can really have him picked before Rumelu.
    You can't judge Lukaku's performence as an individual one when the entire team was dire. Martial was bad to, should we drop him? so is Pogba, do we drop him? Matic was poor, Sanchez tried but couldnt do anything, should we drop them?

    The whole team was bad. Lukaku ain't scoring like he did at the beggining of the season, but he is still a valuble asset to our attack. He build up play, and does everything for the team, not trying to think about hes own stats. I have a lot of criticisem towards Lukaku, for not fighting for the bal, not pressing the CB's, but this stuff is probably up to the manager's request, because every kid in scholl can run after the ball, unless instructed otherwise. Lukaku is super strong and super quick for his size, and he will get his scoring rythem back. I back him to reach 20 PL goals this season, and 25-30 PL goals next season.
     
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    Oddly, the first half last time out went OK bar the first goal catching us out and the colossally shite own goal. We were worse in the second half by some distance, but we didn't concede. I think the line-up was probably still the right one (maybe Herrera in for one of the attackers) and is probably José's current first choice XI. I'd play the same team except perhaps Shaw at Left Back.

    de Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
    Matic
    Lingard Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial
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    Romero; Rojo, Young; Carrick, Herrera, Mata; Rashford​

    Let them have another go at it, redeem themselves after the shocker at Spurs. Carrick to replace Fellaini on the bench.
     
    MacabbiUnited said:
    Underevaluting? Rashford didn't do anything worth evaluting the past 2 month. I love the kid and hope he workd his way into the team, but at current form you can really have him picked before Rumelu.
    You can't judge Lukaku's performence as an individual one when the entire team was dire. Martial was bad to, should we drop him? so is Pogba, do we drop him? Matic was poor, Sanchez tried but couldnt do anything, should we drop them?

    The whole team was bad. Lukaku ain't scoring like he did at the beggining of the season, but he is still a valuble asset to our attack. He build up play, and does everything for the team, not trying to think about hes own stats. I have a lot of criticisem towards Lukaku, for not fighting for the bal, not pressing the CB's, but this stuff is probably up to the manager's request, because every kid in scholl can run after the ball, unless instructed otherwise. Lukaku is super strong and super quick for his size, and he will get his scoring rythem back. I back him to reach 20 PL goals this season, and 25-30 PL goals next season.
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    Why do we still assume that Lukaku is super strong when he has never shown good strength? Just because he's big?
     
    MacabbiUnited said:
    Underevaluting? Rashford didn't do anything worth evaluting the past 2 month. I love the kid and hope he workd his way into the team, but at current form you can really have him picked before Rumelu.
    You can't judge Lukaku's performence as an individual one when the entire team was dire. Martial was bad to, should we drop him? so is Pogba, do we drop him? Matic was poor, Sanchez tried but couldnt do anything, should we drop them?

    The whole team was bad. Lukaku ain't scoring like he did at the beggining of the season, but he is still a valuble asset to our attack. He build up play, and does everything for the team, not trying to think about hes own stats. I have a lot of criticisem towards Lukaku, for not fighting for the bal, not pressing the CB's, but this stuff is probably up to the manager's request, because every kid in scholl can run after the ball, unless instructed otherwise. Lukaku is super strong and super quick for his size, and he will get his scoring rythem back. I back him to reach 20 PL goals this season, and 25-30 PL goals next season.
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    Mate it will be a travesty if £90m Lakaku doesnt even score 20 PL goals this season.

    And tbh it looks like he will struggle to even get 15-17 PL goals by the end of the season.
     
    whatwha said:
    Why do we still assume that Lukaku is super strong when he has never shown good strength? Just because he's big?
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    Never? at the beggining of the season he was bullying CB's and scoring loads of goals just because of his strenght. Somewhere down the line, he lost either his confidence or his willigness to do so, and that obviously needs to be addressed.

    I can never understand this forum. People have such short memory span. 2 weeks ago everybody was screaming hoe Jones is one the best CB's in the league when fit, and that his injuries held him back, not one bad performence and his "not stable", "not good enough", "we need a new defense".
    2 weeks ago everybody was praising Pogba for his sublime touches and smartness. Then 2 games later, in 1 of them he shot the ball instead of passing, and other one had a bad game, suddnly his not resposible enough, he cant hold the team, his a primadona.
    Same goes for Lukaku. after the first 10 games of the season when he scored like 11 goals in all comps, people were ravishing all over our super buy, how we got one over Chelsea, saying how strong fast and what an eye for goal his got. Now people saying his not strong, his not a good finisher, his not this and not that. Lukaku is a proven PL striker. <aybe not the best in the world and never will be, but he will eventually score goals, and loads of them. It may not be as pretty as Lewandowski's goals, or as Aguero's goals, but you don't get points for scoring chips and screamers.
     
    For the love of Christ none of that 5 attacker nonsense tomorrow.

    Two behind Pogba to cover his lazy fecking arse.

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    Havak said:
    de Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
    Matic
    Lingard Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial
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    Romero; Rojo, Young; Carrick, Herrera, Mata; Rashford​

    Let them have another go at it, redeem themselves after the shocker at Spurs. Carrick to replace Fellaini on the bench.
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    Real life is not Fifa. That is football suicide.
     
    sully1 said:
    Mate it will be a travesty if £90m Lakaku doesnt even score 20 PL goals this season.

    And tbh it looks like he will struggle to even get 15-17 PL goals by the end of the season.
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    90m? I remember 75. People here are like The Sun with the sums of money.
    He will beg 20 goals. IT won't be the end of the world if he doesn't though.
     
    MacabbiUnited said:
    90m? I remember 75. People here are like The Sun with the sums of money.
    He will beg 20 goals. IT won't be the end of the world if he doesn't though.
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    Definitely will be seen as a flop season for him if doesn't even hit 20 goals.
    Giroud hits 20 nearly every season and hes worth £18 million.

    And to be frankly honest with you mate, United signed Lakaku to be a 30-35+ goals a season striker, not to be sitting on just 11 goals in February. He was scoring 20 goals a season for West Brom and Everton so surely logic tells us his goals tally should be a lot higher playing for United.
     
    sully1 said:
    Definitely will be seen as a flop season for him if doesn't even hit 20 goals.
    Giroud hits 20 nearly every season and hes worth £18 million.

    And to be frankly honest with you mate, United signed Lakaku to be a 30-35+ goals a season striker, not to be sitting on just 11 goals in February. He was scoring 20 goals a season for West Brom and Everton so surely logic tells us his goals tally should be a lot higher playing for United.
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    Other than Suarez I dont remember anyone begging 30+ goals a season since 2010. Kane hasn't reached that fit, Aguero hasnt reached it either, so if someone thought that on his first season here he would score 30 goals, than maybe the problem is with expectations. I know Salah is almost there, but you can't compare our style of football to Liverpool's

    Obviously 11 by february is not good enough, I agree with that. But I belive that need to to give him time, you can't judge someone based on a half a season, certainly not when he did have some amazing spells, and now is having a bad spell. I think he will reach 20 for us this season and will get back to his scoring form. We'll just have to wait and see
     
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    MacabbiUnited said:
    Never? at the beggining of the season he was bullying CB's and scoring loads of goals just because of his strenght. Somewhere down the line, he lost either his confidence or his willigness to do so, and that obviously needs to be addressed.

    I can never understand this forum. People have such short memory span. 2 weeks ago everybody was screaming hoe Jones is one the best CB's in the league when fit, and that his injuries held him back, not one bad performence and his "not stable", "not good enough", "we need a new defense".
    2 weeks ago everybody was praising Pogba for his sublime touches and smartness. Then 2 games later, in 1 of them he shot the ball instead of passing, and other one had a bad game, suddnly his not resposible enough, he cant hold the team, his a primadona.
    Same goes for Lukaku. after the first 10 games of the season when he scored like 11 goals in all comps, people were ravishing all over our super buy, how we got one over Chelsea, saying how strong fast and what an eye for goal his got. Now people saying his not strong, his not a good finisher, his not this and not that. Lukaku is a proven PL striker. <aybe not the best in the world and never will be, but he will eventually score goals, and loads of them. It may not be as pretty as Lewandowski's goals, or as Aguero's goals, but you don't get points for scoring chips and screamers.
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    It's not just an issue of football fans being very focused on the short term and the last week. It's also an issue of fans being obsessed with stats rather than what actually happens on the pitch throughout a game. Like you have just done. He was never bullying CBs for us even while scoring at a good rate. I never raved about his performances even in August or September, because his stats were covering up average performances and the big weaknesses in his game. His goals didn't come as a result of great uses of strength.
     
    whatwha said:
    It's not just an issue of football fans being very focused on the short term and the last week. It's also an issue of fans being obsessed with stats rather than what actually happens on the pitch throughout a game. Like you have just done. He was never bullying CBs for us even while scoring at a good rate. I never raved about his performances even in August or September, because his stats were covering up average performances and the big weaknesses in his game. His goals didn't come as a result of great uses of strength.
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    It did though. every game he was scoring goals either by being faster than everyone else or by being pretty unguardable in the air, how many headers did he score? tons. Lukaku isn't a player to great the goals for himself, neither is he the one who would score a 30 meter screamer. But if his counterparts work for him, give him the ball where he needs it, he will score. and he has, and he will score tons more in the future.

    His desire and passion in almost unmatched in the team. And I'm sur ethe numbers will follow
     
    ————————De Gea———————
    ————————-Rojo————————-
    Valencia————-Matic———-—-Shaw
    ————Mata-—————-Pogba——-
    Rashford—-——Sanchez————Martial
    ——————Lukaku————————-

    On FM I´d totally play like this :drool:
     
    MacabbiUnited said:
    It did though. every game he was scoring goals either by being faster than everyone else or by being pretty unguardable in the air, how many headers did he score? tons. Lukaku isn't a player to great the goals for himself, neither is he the one who would score a 30 meter screamer. But if his counterparts work for him, give him the ball where he needs it, he will score. and he has, and he will score tons more in the future.

    His desire and passion in almost unmatched in the team. And I'm sur ethe numbers will follow
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    Strength was the factor being discussed, not speed or scoring headers. My memory isn't great, but maybe you can show me goals he has scored for us where he has actually bullied defenders with strength rather than pace or height.
     
    whatwha said:
    Strength was the factor being discussed, not speed or scoring headers. My memory isn't great, but maybe you can show me goals he has scored for us where he has actually bullied defenders with strength rather than pace or height.
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    Lukaku aint taller than the average CB. All is headers were won by positioning and strneght in the air.
     
    Class of 63 said:
    De Gea
    Jones Lindelof Rojo
    Valencia McTominay Pogba Shaw
    Lingard
    Sanchez Lukaku

    Romero, Young, Smalling, Matic, Herrera, Rashford and Martial

    4-0

    Sorry Juan, nothing personal​
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    3 CBs at home against Huddersfield?

    Start Shaw over Young. Only change I'd make, the rest should get the job done. We can seal top 4 with a win if other results go our way, so for goodness sake, don't let this fecking slip.
     
    Shane88 said:
    For the love of Christ none of that 5 attacker nonsense tomorrow.

    Two behind Pogba to cover his lazy fecking arse.

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    Real life is not Fifa. That is football suicide.
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    That's the formation City play. They seem to be doing OK.
     
    Class of 63 said:
    Hear, or here ?

    Mind you there's a few on here than could do the job, maybe we should have a poll, and pass the results on to Ed :lol:
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    Grrrr.
    Okay you got me.
    Hear...of course. :D

    Hang on.... "than" or "that"!!!!!!!!! :p

    When it comes to Jose being replaced, people need to give names on who to replace him with. There simply isn't anybody who is better, but I am all ears.
     
    Kapardin said:
    3 CBs at home against Huddersfield?
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    It's not ideal, but no new midfielder coming in January, and with Matic needing a breather, Fellaini out for who knows how long McTominay has got to get game-time in case he's needed towards the business end of the season(on paper Huddersfield at home is the easiest game we've got for the next few months to put him in), having 3 at the back behind will let him concentrate on his own game without having to worry to much about his defensive responsibilities.
     
    MacabbiUnited said:
    Lukaku aint taller than the average CB. All is headers were won by positioning and strneght in the air.
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    He is a bit taller at 192cm. And you have moved the goal posts ;) Being good in the air is not the same as using strength to bully defenders.
     
    whatwha said:
    He is a bit taller at 192cm. And you have moved the goal posts ;) Being good in the air is not the same as using strength to bully defenders.
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    What would you consider using strenght than? Not much ways to do so without being called for a foul:confused:

    All I'm saying is that Lukaku showed he is good enough, and will show that again in the future.
    He is not better or equel to Kane, but he is darn good enough to be our opening striker.
    Given the fact that Kane was not really an option, I don't see any other striker that you could say is definetly better than Lukaku. Salah is on fire with the way Liverpool are playing, I reckon with our style of play he wouldnt do much more than Lukaku had done.
     
    I don't care that it's Huddersfield. Just wanna see Sanchez score at OT tomorrow. Get him up and running!
     
    MacabbiUnited said:
    What would you consider using strenght than? Not much ways to do so without being called for a foul:confused:

    All I'm saying is that Lukaku showed he is good enough, and will show that again in the future.
    He is not better or equel to Kane, but he is darn good enough to be our opening striker.
    Given the fact that Kane was not really an option, I don't see any other striker that you could say is definetly better than Lukaku. Salah is on fire with the way Liverpool are playing, I reckon with our style of play he wouldnt do much more than Lukaku had done.
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    Look at how top strikers use strength and technique to hold up the ball. Most of the time they either succeed or they draw a foul from the opponent. Can't say the same about Lukaku, he's quite easily contained by top defenders.

    You mean any other striker among the poor selection that was available to buy last summer. Lukaku is not good enough to lift United up a level, not good enough for a league/CL winning team. But let's agree to disagree on that. I'm not going to change my mind, and I'm guessing you won't change yours. ;)
     
    MacabbiUnited said:
    What would you consider using strenght than? Not much ways to do so without being called for a foul:confused:

    All I'm saying is that Lukaku showed he is good enough, and will show that again in the future.
    He is not better or equel to Kane, but he is darn good enough to be our opening striker.
    Given the fact that Kane was not really an option, I don't see any other striker that you could say is definetly better than Lukaku. Salah is on fire with the way Liverpool are playing, I reckon with our style of play he wouldnt do much more than Lukaku had done.
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    Totally agree.
     
    de Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
    Herrera Matic
    Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial
    ​
    Please, just try it for a few weeks so herrera and matic can find an understanding. Lingard has been great, but as the spurs game showed, we cant just sacrifice the midfield. Herrera will put a shift in to help matic, that is one of his best qualities. Ensuring the midfield is stable, whilst giving pogba free rein in the CAM role has so much potential IMO.
     
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    We've tried Pogba in a three with mixed results, in a two which is asking for trouble, maybe it's time to let him do it all on his own.
     
    I think this should be the base for the rest of the season:

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    Rojo, Bailly, Shaw, Carrick, Fellaini and Martial can all easily start as well, but this is how the team should look.
     
    The Spurs result was neither here nor there, considering that Chelsea themselves decided to be even worst than us.

    However, if we lose to this shower today I will be fecking pissed off.

    I just want to see a balanced team and a good attitude from our players. Oh and at the end, 3 points.
     
    Would like to see pogba start in a midfield 3 and sanchez to score. As long as we win the performance is irrelevant after Wednesday.
     
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  • 30% Man Utd 3:0 Huddersfield
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