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Manchester United 2:0 Huddersfield Town

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Sat, 3 February 2018 @ 3:00pm GMT
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    roonster09 said:
    Huddersfield won't leave the box, so there is no point playing 3 at the back or 3 CMs. It's better to play 4-2-3-1 for this.

    Hopefully we score early goal so that game opens up.
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    3 at the back is better against deep teams.

    Quicker to recycle the ball, more freedom for the wingbacks and central midfielders, 2 strikers.
     
    Drainy said:
    3 at the back is better against deep teams.

    Quicker to recycle the ball, more freedom for the wingbacks and central midfielders, 2 strikers.
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    But we will be adding 3 players who can't pass the ball or contribute in a meaningful way in the build up play.
     
    roonster09 said:
    But we will be adding 3 players who can't pass the ball or contribute in a meaningful way in the build up play.
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    Lindelof and Rojo can play the ball into midfield well. When they step into midfield, a player needs to face them or a cross will come in, this creates space for the midfielders.

    The extra man allows Young and Valencia to push up the pitch earlier, again creating space as the opposition need to avoid giving them too much space.

    3 at the back doesn't have to be defensive.
     
    Devil may care said:
    I think we might see some nut cutting at the back and Rashford will start given he didn't get on tonight, well probably plow on with fecking 4-2-3-1 though.


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    The problem with the midfield two is Pogba not having the liberty to attack on the rightcenter, but people keep misrepresenting this by putting him on the leftcenter. Seems little, but it is a major difference.
     
    YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
    Change Mata for Herrera and it would probably do against Huddersfield. Problem is that it puts a lot of pressure on the full backs if the opposition have good wingers and attacking full-backs.

    Lukaku
    Martial Alexis J.Mata
    Pogba Ander
    Shaw Rojo Mike Anto
    DDG

    Tell Pogba to stay more disciplined and control the game. I dont like leaving Lingard out, but i think we need Mata right now.​
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    That's precisely the opposite of what we need. I kind of think he was holding a grudge yesterday with the way the manager set the team up.
     
    Drainy said:
    3 at the back is better against deep teams.

    Quicker to recycle the ball, more freedom for the wingbacks and central midfielders, 2 strikers.
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    No signs 3 at the back is going to become a system we used without it being a reaction to teams that use it too. And Huddersfield apparently don't, although they did in the last game with Liverpool.
     
    I felt in the interviews and press conference afterwards that Mourinho took the blame himself, at least he didn't point any finger to a player in particular. Yes, Pogba being subbed out is telling, but it was a major breakdown of all the team, which is worrisome when we just got a big signing. Maybe that didn't go down that well with the squad?
     
    Drainy said:
    Lindelof and Rojo can play the ball into midfield well. When they step into midfield, a player needs to face them or a cross will come in, this creates space for the midfielders.

    The extra man allows Young and Valencia to push up the pitch earlier, again creating space as the opposition need to avoid giving them too much space.

    3 at the back doesn't have to be defensive.
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    I didn't say 3 at the back is defensive, no formation itself is defensive. I said we don't have good CBs to play 3 CBs system.
     
    Sánchez going to the left, in the second game in a row, as we all feared, can prove to be a major faux pas from Mourinho on the long term. It misplaces Martial, who was on form, and it leaves the problem on the right. Also, I think Pogba had convinced Mourinho he had to use three midfielders to let him free on the left, and Mourinho got carried away with having a new star and though he could still impose his preferred 4-2-3-1.
     
    roonster09 said:
    I didn't say 3 at the back is defensive, no formation itself is defensive. I said we don't have good CBs to play 3 CBs system.
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    That's saying too much. At least Jones and Lindelöf, even Blind, are very capable of distributing play from the back.
     
    Android1974 said:
    I felt in the interviews and press conference afterwards that Mourinho took the blame himself, at least he didn't point any finger to a player in particular. Yes, Pogba being subbed out is telling, but it was a major breakdown of all the team, which is worrisome when we just got a big signing. Maybe that didn't go down that well with the squad?
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    Honestly, where do these theories come from? Seeing as we're not exactly winning treble after treble, why would anyone have a problem with trying to improve the squad?
     
    SS said:
    Honestly, where do these theories come from? Seeing as we're not exactly winning treble after treble, why would anyone have a problem with trying to improve the squad?
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    So, you don't think there's a chance Pogba, being the start of the team, cares about Sánchez coming and earning a lot more that he does?
     
    Android1974 said:
    That's precisely the opposite of what we need. I kind of think he was holding a grudge yesterday with the way the manager set the team up.
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    Yeah, but against Huddersfield it shouldn’t be necessary to have 3 man in midfield, i’d rather blitz them from the start. He played deeper for us pretty much all last season, so he should be able to do it again. In the long term i’m fully on the train to 4-3-3.
     
    Android1974 said:
    That's saying too much. At least Jones and Lindelöf, even Blind, are very capable of distributing play from the back.
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    Blind I agree but he isn't in contention for CB slot. Any CB playing in PL can play simple passes to the midfielder, check how Vertonghen breaks from the defence and makes up the number in midfield or even in final third. None of our CBs can do that, maybe lack of ability or tactical limitation I don't know.

    For example Matic played as CB in the second half vs Burnley, check how good his passing was. That's what is needed, not just simple passes to the midfielder infront of defender.
     
    Android1974 said:
    So, you don't think there's a chance Pogba, being the start of the team, cares about Sánchez coming and earning a lot more that he does?
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    No, when he renegotiates his contract he will get big pay rise anyways. Apart from that no one even knows what kind of money these players are on after all the bonuses and image rights.
     
    roonster09 said:
    Blind I agree but he isn't in contention for CB slot. Any CB playing in PL can play simple passes to the midfielder, check how Vertonghen breaks from the defence and makes up the number in midfield or even in final third. None of our CBs can do that, maybe lack of ability or tactical limitation I don't know.

    For example Matic played as CB in the second half vs Burnley, check how good his passing was. That's what is needed, not just simple passes to the midfielder infront of defender.
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    Blind is in contention, if we're to play three at the back. He even made the leftcenterback position with Shaw in front of him as leftwingback. Lindelöf is more than capable to do that, but still has no confidence in him.
     
    Jig1234 said:
    I like this!

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    Mata in that position doesn't fill me with confidence. Put Herrera in there. Give the fecker a chance. He better shows up. We really have a problem in that position. With Fellaini out and Herrera completely out of form we have absolutely no one to play there.
     
    YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
    Yeah, but against Huddersfield it shouldn’t be necessary to have 3 man in midfield, i’d rather blitz them from the start. He played deeper for us pretty much all last season, so he should be able to do it again. In the long term i’m fully on the train to 4-3-3.
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    After last night, it's hard for me to understand that. It just allow us to play better as a team. It almost comes down to the position and function Lingard has, drifting horizontally all over the second line of attack as #10, like yesterday, or mainly vertically as #8 on the right center of midfield, like against Burnley (or Herrera against Everton).
     
    I can see us winning this one easily. Our reaction to a loss has been positive so far this season. We just need to keep beating the bottom half teams like we have being doing so far to seal the 2nd spot. The title is out of our hands for sure now.
     
    Godfather said:
    Mata in that position doesn't fill me with confidence. Put Herrera in there. Give the fecker a chance. He better shows up. We really have a problem in that position. With Fellaini out and Herrera completely out of form we have absolutely no one to play there.
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    Just imagine if A.Pereira had stayed instead of being stupidly loaned…:rolleyes:
     
    Il be away on holiday during this. Couldn't be more well timed. Yesterday's performance was the worst I've seen in a couple of seasons!
     
    Android1974 said:
    Blind is in contention, if we're to play three at the back. He even made the leftcenterback position with Shaw in front of him as leftwingback. Lindelöf is more than capable to do that, but still has no confidence in him.
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    Not sure when was the last time Blind was played in PL game.

    Lindelof is nowhere near as good as players like Vertonghen on the ball. He is probably best in the club but still not at the required standard to make passes from the deep or move up and make up the numbers in midfield and final third.
     
    Android1974 said:
    Mata there would be a wonderful rerun of the Huddersfield away debacle, where he was run over and lost the ball in midfield.
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    I don't think so, in this system he would have numbers around him. In the 4-2-3-1 we currently use we are getting over run and struggling to string passes.
     
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    Godfather said:
    Mata in that position doesn't fill me with confidence. Put Herrera in there. Give the fecker a chance. He better shows up. We really have a problem in that position. With Fellaini out and Herrera completely out of form we have absolutely no one to play there.
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    We can use Mata/Herrera but I am not Herrera's biggest fan.
     
    Jig1234 said:
    I don't think so, in this system he would have numbers around him. In the 4-3-2-1 we currently use we are getting over run and struggling to string passes.
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    What 4-3-2-1? Is that a mistake? We've been alternating in the last games between 4-2-3-1, like yesterday and Stoke and Derby, and 4-3-3 with Yeovil, Burnley and Everton.
     
    Android1974 said:
    What 4-3-2-1? Is that a mistake? We've been alternating in the last games between 4-2-3-1, like yesterday and Stoke and Derby, and 4-3-3 with Yeovil, Burnley and Everton.
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    Apologies, that was a typo. I meant 4-2-3-1. My point was that I think we should stick with the 4-3-3. Mourinho tends to used it vs Yeovil, Burnley and Everton but when we really need it, is in big away games like the one last night.
     
    de Gea
    Valencia whoever Shaw
    Matic
    Pogba Alexis
    Lingard Lukaku Martial

    or

    de Gea
    Valencia whoever Shaw
    Matic
    Herrera Pogba
    Lukaku Martial Alexis​
     
    I think 4-3-3 is the way to go for this one. We just need a win to get over that shambles last night.

    I'm glad we don't have to wait until Sunday or Monday.
     
    Android1974 said:
    Funny that he's allowed to chose and want when he has a contract with us, no?
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    Who knows. Personally I wouldn't have let him out on loan, but if Jose couldn't guarantee him the games he craved maybe it is better he gets gametime elsewhere. He has been stuck on the bench anyway recently, so was it a good decision for him. All he is getting is a tan.
     
    BootsyCollins said:
    Hope to see :
    ---------------DDG---------------
    Valencia--Smalling--Rojo--Shaw
    --------------Matic---------------
    --------Herrera----Pogba--------
    Alexis--------Lukaku------Martial
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    I like the look of that. When is Bailly due back?
     
    Huddersfield away defeat and the Chelsea away defeat before the international break was the real games we lost our title momentum.

    Hopefully we embarrass Hudersfield

    Also think Rashford deserves to start now.
     
    MThomas said:
    His form has been utter dire for well over a month, both as a starter and coming off the bench, so how would it be deserved ? If he plays well coming off the bench, start him.
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    Usual drival after every poor result. Players that didn't feature in that game are suddenly world beaters and deserving of starts.
     
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  • 30% Man Utd 3:0 Huddersfield
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