Europa League Match Day 5

Manchester United 3:2 FK Bodo/Glimt

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Thu, 28 November 2024 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    Another game where I haven't the slightest clue what the starting XI is gonna be!

    If everyone was fit and available, I think the strongest line up in a 3-4-3 is as below:

    Onana

    Yoro
    MDL
    Martinez

    Maz
    Ugarte
    Mainoo
    Shaw

    Amad
    Bruno

    Hojlund

    I'd drop Dalot, he's been rubbish this season and he's not going to do anything at LWB.

    Conventional wisdom is that Shaw wouldn't be able to physically cope playing at LWB but I'd like to see it for myself before making a judgement, because the position is made for a fully fit Shaw (admittedly a rare sighting).

    I'm sorry, Amad is wasted at RWB. If our front 3 were firing on all cylinders and scoring goals for fun, then it wouldn't be that big an issue. But at the moment he's our best attacker, we need him as close to the goal as possible! Mazraoui can play there if Yoro comes in RCB.

    Can't find a place for Garnacho in the starting line up with this formation. He's still better as an impact player off the bench, but now he'd be coming on as a 10 rather than a winger, so is even his impact off the bench going to suffer?

    Hojlund starts ahead of Rashford, simply because he's the better of two bad options. Badly need a quality centre forward, it's killing us.

    Would like to see him try this line up and see how it goes!

    Martinez is out for a few weeks with a spine issue and Yoro didn't even make the bench last game oddly so doubt he's fit enough to start
     
    Plenty of rotation I think here.

    Onana
    Yoro deligt Shaw
    Mazraoui Ugarte Mainoo Malacia
    Mount Bruno
    Hojlund
    Basically the team I want to see against Everton as well, but Amad instead of Mount.
     
    Especially if as reported there’s a chance Bodo will rotate the team for this game to prioritise winning their league at the weekend…
    Apparently they rested their (or some of) best players during a league match this weekend.
     
    Onana
    Yoro De Ligt Shaw
    Mazraoui Ugarte Casemiro Malacia
    Amad Bruno
    Hojlund
    Yoro should start here. He's been training for the last few weeks and he needs to get gametime.

    Not sure if Martinez will be fit, but if he is then he comes in for Shaw and Shaw moves out to WB in place of Malacia.

    Test out Mazraoui at WB and take Dalot out of the team. Dalot has been poor for a while and deserves benching.

    Amad has been one of our better performers in the last few games and should deserve a go at no.10 and maximize his attacking output without limiting him with defensive responsibilities at WB.

    In my view, Hojlund has the raw attributes to be Gyokeres like striker. He's better at pressing and although inconsistent his holdup play is way better than Rashford. I hope Amorim starts to mould him into the striker he wants rather than persisting with Rashford.

    Another obvious omission is Garnacho but I don't think he has a place in this system. Doesn't have a defensive bone in his body and the workrate required to play as a WB nor has the technique and creativity required to play as the no.10.
     
    Can't see J Evans starting, unless the other CBs arnt fit. We should all know after game one it's 3-4-3.
    Onana.
    Yoro.. DL .. Shaw
    Mazroui Mount Ugarte, Malacia
    Amad Bruno Garnacho. .. who knows maybe this.
     
    Onana
    whichever 3 CBS are fit
    Dalot Bruno Ugarte Maz
    Amad Rashford
    Hojlund​

    is what I would like to see. Could put Mount next to Ugarte to see how that works instead of Bruno and have him higher to replace Rashford. Or they could give Zirkzee a run out to start and see what he can do.
     
    I'm hoping to see the likes of Yoro, Shaw, Malacia, Mount and Mainoo all get some minutes - but I really don't want all of them starting together as I see in some line ups.

    They'll all be rusty and lacking match fitness and sharpness - it would be throwing the game to start them all together as that's half the outfield line up of non-match sharp players all returning at the same time.

    I hope we start some of them - probably Shaw and Mount while they came on as subs in the last game. While the others can come off the bench for a first run out - Yoro wasn't even in the matchday squad on Sunday, presumably not deemed quite ready, so it would be a big ask to start tomorrow.

    I get that we'll make some changes to see how some of the others work in the system - and in the case of bringing in the likes of Ugarte and Hojlund they're match fit first teamers coming in. But I don't want us to throw in too many non-match fit and sharp players all at once. This is still an important, must win game in the context of the EL. We should still be keeping one eye on the short term even if the other is rightly on the necessary long term progression.
     
    Would like to see:

    Onana
    Dalot De Ligt Shaw
    Mazraoui Ugarte Bruno Malacia
    Mount Amad
    Hojlund

    Pace at the back for pressing and recovery runs. Wing backs who can bomb up and down the flanks. Ugarte to destroy, with Bruno on the ball more. Mount and Amad running the inside channels. Hojlund getting on the end of chances.

    Garnacho needs a rest IMO.
     
    I think it will be impossible to guess the line-up for a couple of matches with Amorim stating he will rotate players so he can train them. And we also don't know where some of the players will play, if they do. Garnacho, Amad, Rashford, Bruno, Mainoo and Mazraoui all have at least 2 positions you could see them playing in this set-up.
     
    Would like to see:

    Onana
    Dalot De Ligt Shaw
    Mazraoui Ugarte Bruno Malacia
    Mount Amad
    Hojlund

    Pace at the back for pressing and recovery runs. Wing backs who can bomb up and down the flanks. Ugarte to destroy, with Bruno on the ball more. Mount and Amad running the inside channels. Hojlund getting on the end of chances.

    Garnacho needs a rest IMO.

    Rather Yoro get 45 mins than Dalot at CB, Dalot is a disaster at the moment
     
    No clue what the line-up will be but I hope he plays Amad further upfield and benches Rashford.
     
    With Licha back I would like to see us try Shaw as LWB, just to see if he still has the engine for it. Because if he still does, he's without a doubt our best LWB. Also a shame that Yoro isn't ready yet to start(at least how I see it, with him doing recovery training). So with that, this would be my team for Thursday.

    Onana
    Maz-DeLigt-Licha
    Dalot-Mainoo-Ugarte-Shaw
    Amad-Bruno
    Højlund

    Garnacho could also start over Dalot to get even more attacking ability down that side.
     
    Would like to see:

    Onana
    Dalot De Ligt Shaw
    Mazraoui Ugarte Bruno Malacia
    Mount Amad
    Hojlund

    Pace at the back for pressing and recovery runs. Wing backs who can bomb up and down the flanks. Ugarte to destroy, with Bruno on the ball more. Mount and Amad running the inside channels. Hojlund getting on the end of chances.

    Garnacho needs a rest IMO.
    On paper that all looks / sounds fine.

    But that left side of defence has a player that's made one sub appearance all season coming back from a latest injury, and one player that's played just one half of an U21 game in over two years after a very bad injury.

    I don't think the potential 'pace, pressing, bombing up and down the flanks' will be anywhere near what it could be from those two once they're match fit and sharp. I think it's much more likely they'll look rusty, off the pace, and both wary of pushing their bodies to the maximum for fearing of them breaking down again until they've got some games under their belt.

    That's why I definitely wouldn't start both together for their first starts back. I'd like to see Malacia used as a sub for a game or two first while Shaw beds back in. Especially as we have a similar issue in midfield with Mount and / or Mainoo also only just coming back. I, similarly, only want to see one of them start and the other used as a sub - so I prefer the midfield / attack part of your team.
     
    Rather Yoro get 45 mins than Dalot at CB, Dalot is a disaster at the moment
    But that would be Shaw, Malacia and Yoro all in the defence / WB roles for their first starts (two of them first appearances) of the season.

    We really shouldn't do that. From a result wise, that's suicide to pick so many rusty and non-match fit defenders together. And it's also not ideal for each of them, feeling their way back into match sharpness, to have similarly physically handicapped players next to them in defence.

    We should ease them in slowly, playing alongside defenders who are up to shape physically and so can help try to cover and make up for the limitations of the returning player. Not have them all exposed together all in one go and have their lack of fitness, sharpness and trust in their bodies exploited by the opponents.

    All the above is even more relevant when some are also throwing in Mount and / or Mainoo as starters in midfield - who are also in a similar physical position as returning players. Their returns need to be spaced out, not all thrown in to start at once.
     
    But that would be Shaw, Malacia and Yoro all in the defence / WB roles for their first starts (two of them first appearances) of the season.

    We really shouldn't do that. From a result wise, that's suicide to pick so many rusty and non-match fit defenders together. And it's also not ideal for each of them, feeling their way back into match sharpness, to have similarly physically handicapped players next to them in defence.

    We should ease them in slowly, playing alongside defenders who are up to shape physically and so can help try to cover and make up for the limitations of the returning player. Not have them all exposed together all in one go.

    Easy, don't start Malacia who has not played first team football in over 18 months
     
    Easy, don't start Malacia who has not played first team football in over 18 months
    I agree. But you were responding to a poster whose team had Malacia at LWB. And you were just saying you'd prefer Yoro instead of Dalot as 'he's a disaster at the moment'. Just that switch would have then had Yoro, Shaw and Malacia in it (as well as the equally retuning Mount in midfield).

    I was saying that's too many - especially as some also include Mainoo as well. I'm happy with 2, maximum 3, of those starting - and the others getting minutes as subs. Like you say, Malacia really should only be a sub as he's not played first team football in so long. I'd probably only have Yoro as a sub as well, as he wasn't even in the matchday squad at the weekend.

    I think Shaw and Mount, both used as subs v Ipswich, are probably the ones who should start. The others used as subs if they're ready.
     
    Onana

    Yoro
    De Ligt
    Martinez

    Dalot
    Ugarte
    Mainoo
    Malacia

    Bruno
    Mount
    Hojlund

    Give Maguire and Shaw shared minutes then with Yoro and Martinez.

    Hopefully we’ll click a bit more with the extra few days of training with Amorim.
     
    Onana

    Yoro
    De Ligt
    Martinez

    Dalot
    Ugarte
    Mainoo
    Malacia

    Bruno
    Mount
    Hojlund

    Give Maguire and Shaw shared minutes then with Yoro and Martinez.

    Hopefully we’ll click a bit more with the extra few days of training with Amorim.

    0% chance Malacia starts, best we can hope for is some minutes off the bench and Maguire he just stated in a conference (right now) that he won't be back for this game, also said that Yoro isn't "up to speed" yet and I think he indicated that wasn't quite at the level he wanted and doesn't want a young kid to have a bad debut
     
    I agree. But you were responding to a poster whose team had Malacia at LWB. And you were just saying you'd prefer Yoro instead of Dalot as 'he's a disaster at the moment'. Just that switch would have then had Yoro, Shaw and Malacia in it (as well as the equally retuning Mount in midfield).

    I was saying that's too many - especially as some also include Mainoo as well. I'm happy with 2, maximum 3, of those starting - and the others getting minutes as subs. Like you say, Malacia really should only be a sub as he's not played first team football in so long. I'd probably only have Yoro as a sub as well, as he wasn't even in the matchday squad at the weekend.

    I think Shaw and Mount, both used as subs v Ipswich, are probably the ones who should start. The others used as subs if they're ready.

    I made one observation about Dalot and preferring Yoro to play, I didn't critique or endorse the whole selection.
     
    I made one observation about Dalot and preferring Yoro to play, I didn't critique or endorse the whole selection.
    That's fine, yeah. Was just pointing out - as I see it in a lot of line ups - that I think we need to be careful how many of the returning players start at once. And Yoro for Dalot in the line up you quoted would have meant a lot of non-match fit players in it.

    As you subsequently said, better to only use Malacia as a sub while he's not played for so long. I'd probably opt for the same with Yoro, personally. He wasn't even ready for the matchday squad at the weekend - if he's avaliable here, I'd prefer he's given a sub appearance before throwing him in as a starter.

    But there's a lot of different combinations we could try so very difficult to predict which way we'll go - especially with the returning players and their various levels of fitness.
     
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