FA Cup 3rd Round

Manchester United 2:0 Derby County

Old Trafford

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Fri, 5 January 2018 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    Android1974 said:
    Look, people were raving yesterday's 4-3-3 because it allowed Pogba to drift to the left, like he used to in Juventus. Herrera's on the right.
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    Thanks for pointing out my mistake. It should be.

    Romero
    Lindelöf - Smalling* - Rojo - Shaw
    Herrera - Matic* - Pogba
    Mata* - Martial - Lingard​
     
    Gusjaros said:
    Thanks for pointing out my mistake. It should be.

    Romero
    Lindelöf - Smalling* - Rojo - Shaw
    Herrera - Matic* - Pogba
    Mata* - Martial - Lingard​
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    Yeah, except for Romero and Smalling, that would be the same players and system of the previous game.

    I have my doubts Lukaku won't start, though, forcing other changes. Curious to see if Mourinho deems necessary to keep the 4-3-3 with Herrera at home to a Championship team.
     
    Also, the manager might be tempted to feature de Gea in this, after Bristol, just to be on the sure side, but Romero's complaining that he wants to leave so he can keep Argentina's spot.
     
    Romero was hardly the main problem vs the Brizzles. They played really well too, especially their left back (Joe Bryan I think) and Paterson.

    We should play a strong side I think. Lukaku and Rashford up top as goals would benefit both. Mkhi on the right please, not left. Axel at RB would be good.

    Something like:

    Romero

    Tuanzebe
    Smalling
    Rojo
    Shaw

    Matic
    Herrera
    Pogba

    Mkhitaryan
    Lukaku
    Rashford
     
    sincher said:
    Romero was hardly the main problem vs the Brizzles. They played really well too, especially their left back (Joe Bryan I think) and Paterson.

    We should play a strong side I think. Lukaku and Rashford up top as goals would benefit both. Mkhi on the right please, not left. Axel at RB would be good.

    Something like:

    Romero

    Tuanzebe
    Smalling
    Rojo
    Shaw

    Matic
    Herrera
    Pogba

    Mkhitaryan
    Lukaku
    Rashford
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    7 changes? I'm not seeing that happening.
     
    Sandikan said:
    Man City at home too. They stay Saturday.
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    Why couldn't one of us play on Sunday?

    Our next game is a week next Monday. Where as we've already played once during the week.

    Spurs had a game Tuesday, another tomorrow, and then another Saturday...then no game until the next weekend.

    Is there some rule against the use of basic common sense that I'm not aware of?
     
    Pereira, Tuanzebe and McTominay should definitely start. Would also like to see Gribbin, Gomes, Ro-Shaun Williams and Chong getting a chance in first team.
     
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    noodlehair said:
    Why couldn't one of us play on Sunday?

    Is there some rule against the use of basic common sense that I'm not aware of?
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    It might be to do with TV broadcasters. Perhaps they preferred us to play on Friday night.
     
    TRD said:
    Pereira, Tuanzebe and McTominay should definitely start. Would also like to see Gribbin, Gomes, Ro-Shaun Williams and Chong getting a chance in first team.
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    You're making out like this is some minor, pre-season kick about.
    This is the FA Cup and represents our best chance of winning a trophy this season.
    Have you not learnt the lesson from the Bristol City loss?
    The FA Cup games will be taken very seriously and every one of these matches will feature a strong line-up.
     
    Romero
    Tuanzebe Smalling Jones Shaw
    Herrera McTominay Pogba
    Mata Martial Lingard

    Subs: Pereira, Rojo, Lindelof, Matic, Mkhi, Rashford, Lukaku

    Full strength apart from Romero, Tuanzebe and McTominay, good chance to give those three some game time. Bit worried with Derby in pretty good form but at least we're at home.
     
    Jose likes trophies, and this is likely our best chance of getting one, he's going to take this seriously. They've been performing well recently and shouldn't be taken for mugs, we've been struggling against lower PL teams recently and these are probably at a similar standard right now so I expect a pretty strong team. Also there are a lot of Derby fans in my office so I expect another 5-1.
     
    Contrary to his own words, Mourinho featured a very changed team against Bristol (one 1 player from the previous West Brom game) and it did cost us, even playing the now loved 4-3-3 with Pogba on the left of midfield. No way, even at OT, is he risking something similar in the FA Cup.
     
    AngliaRed said:
    I’m pretty certain Lukaku will be back for this, he is only out for a week!

    I did, however like our rotating front 3 against Everton and would start them for this match too.
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    Apologies if already mentioned but it is now confirmed he is available - on the official website.
     
    I guess the rumors of Romero wanting to leave had an effect, with Mourinho insisting he will be Argentina's keeper in the World Cup.
     
    Annihilate Now! said:
    Feck knows why it couldn't just have been on Sunday though.
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    noodlehair said:
    Why couldn't one of us play on Sunday?

    Our next game is a week next Monday. Where as we've already played once during the week.

    Spurs had a game Tuesday, another tomorrow, and then another Saturday...then no game until the next weekend.

    Is there some rule against the use of basic common sense that I'm not aware of?
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    Devil may care said:
    I'm not sure if City are playing Saturday or Sunday afternoon but whichever they aren't we could have played there.
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    Well in hindsight it may look daft but at the time the dates were finalised United were still in the Carabao Cup.

    Which teams that are playing on Sunday were still in the Carabao Cup for the quarter finals? West Ham and Arsenal. These two happened to play each other in the QFs. Coincidence? No. Whichever won that QF would play their semi on the Wednesday. Now they couldn't have any of the other QF teams playing on Sunday because they had no idea how the QFs and the SF draw would pan out and therefore couldn't risk having a team playing on Sunday and then Tuesday. So this automatically ruled out Leicester, City, Chelsea, Bournemouth, Bristol and United playing on Sunday. I'll come back to the reason why they chose the Arsenal+West Ham pairing for Sunday.

    So you've then got both United and City who can't play on the same day and can't play on Sunday either. Only solution left? Put one of the teams on the Friday night. I'm guessing the fact that United played on Monday while City played on Tuesday is the reason they put United on the Friday night. Which is totally fair enough.

    You could argue that they could have waited for the Carabao Cup results/draw before finalising the FA Cup fixtures but on the other hand the FAC 3rd round is a complete clusterfeck with a million things to take into consideration (logistics, tv games, security, tickets, transport, close stadiums having home games on the same day etc.). The sooner you finalise the dates the better.

    As for Spurs (and West Ham) they're playing on Sunday, not Saturday. Their NYE fixture was moved to tonight because of safety reasons so they're rightly given an extra day's rest for the weekend. And there you have the reason for why they chose to have the West Ham+Arsenal pairing on Sunday rather than City+Leicester or Bristol+United.

    So if anything they've played this right by taking absolutely everything into consideration.
     
    Giggsy92 said:
    Romero
    Tuanzebe Smalling Jones Shaw
    Herrera McTominay Pogba
    Mata Martial Lingard

    Subs: Pereira, Rojo, Lindelof, Matic, Mkhi, Rashford, Lukaku

    Full strength apart from Romero, Tuanzebe and McTominay, good chance to give those three some game time. Bit worried with Derby in pretty good form but at least we're at home.
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    I can see Fellani and Lukaku both starting this.
     
    TRD said:
    Pereira, Tuanzebe and McTominay should definitely start. Would also like to see Gribbin, Gomes, Ro-Shaun Williams and Chong getting a chance in first team.
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    This is the FA Cup , not some tin pot local thing.
    The FA Cup is out best chance of winning something this season and we should be starting with our best available 11.
    Your team selection is something you would put out for a pre season friendly
     
    Samid said:
    Well in hindsight it may look daft but at the time the dates were finalised United were still in the Carabao Cup.

    Which teams that are playing on Sunday were still in the Carabao Cup for the quarter finals? West Ham and Arsenal. These two happened to play each other in the QFs. Coincidence? No. Whichever won that QF would play their semi on the Wednesday. Now they couldn't have any of the other QF teams playing on Sunday because they had no idea how the QFs and the SF draw would pan out and therefore couldn't risk having a team playing on Sunday and then Tuesday. So this automatically ruled out Leicester, City, Chelsea, Bournemouth, Bristol and United playing on Sunday. I'll come back to the reason why they chose the Arsenal+West Ham pairing for Sunday.

    So you've then got both United and City who can't play on the same day and can't play on Sunday either. Only solution left? Put one of the teams on the Friday night. I'm guessing the fact that United played on Monday while City played on Tuesday is the reason they put United on the Friday night. Which is totally fair enough.

    You could argue that they could have waited for the Carabao Cup results/draw before finalising the FA Cup fixtures but on the other hand the FAC 3rd round is a complete clusterfeck with a million things to take into consideration (logistics, tv games, security, tickets, transport, close stadiums having home games on the same day etc.). The sooner you finalise the dates the better.

    As for Spurs (and West Ham) they're playing on Sunday, not Saturday. Their NYE fixture was moved to tonight because of safety reasons so they're rightly given an extra day's rest for the weekend. And there you have the reason for why they chose to have the West Ham+Arsenal pairing on Sunday rather than City+Leicester or Bristol+United.

    So if anything they've played this right by taking absolutely everything into consideration.
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    Unless there isn't a single free midweek where they could have fitted an extra round of league games in (and there have already been several) this still doesn't really make much sense. Failing that, the League cup semis didn't have to be next week. There was a huge gap between the quarter final and round before that, for no real reason. With the QF basically being tacked on to an already over crowded Christmas schedule.

    They've grouped a massive bunch of fixtures up together and then had to come up with this ridiculous schedule to try and get around it. The United game is not televised so there was actually no reason at all why they couldn't wait until the League Cup was sorted to finalise the KO dates/times. Spurs vs West Ham could have been re-organised for literally any date when both teams don't have a fixture pile up.

    I actually like having fekc loads of football on around Christmas but it's almost like they are deliberately trying to cause teams problems this year. It's all completely avoidable.
     
    Our last home defeat against Derby is actually more recent than Liverpool's last home defeat against Everton.
     
    Another great chance for United to get a step closer to a trophy this season, with the league getting further and further. Still have chance to catch up, but pending City's lost of form even though that is hard to see at the moment.

    Romero
    Lindelof Smalling Rojo Shaw
    Herrera Fellaini Pogba
    Miki Martial Rashford
     
    Romero
    Darmian Tuanzebe Smalling Blind
    McTominay Herrera
    Mihkitarian
    Mata Rashford Shaw
     
    sunama said:
    You're making out like this is some minor, pre-season kick about.
    This is the FA Cup and represents our best chance of winning a trophy this season.
    Have you not learnt the lesson from the Bristol City loss?
    The FA Cup games will be taken very seriously and every one of these matches will feature a strong line-up.
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    pauldyson1uk said:
    This is the FA Cup , not some tin pot local thing.
    The FA Cup is out best chance of winning something this season and we should be starting with our best available 11.
    Your team selection is something you would put out for a pre season friendly
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    McTominay should start as Matic has been looking tired lately and need a rest. We cannot risk him for this match as we do not have any backup for him.

    Tuanzebe deserves a start. He can play in multiple positions and is better than Darmian.

    Since Jose have confirmed that Romero will play so Pereira on bench.

    Of remaining young players, I am not saying that all should be in team. Couple of players on bench will be fine. Bring them on later in the match for some experience. As Champions League and Premier League are far more important than FA Cup, this is the time when we can give young players a chance.
     
    Will go with this:
    Romero
    Lindelof Smalling Rojo Shaw
    Herrera Matic Pogba
    Lingard Rashford Martial

    Tuanzebe, McTominay & Mata to come off bench.
     
    Hopefully a semi-rotated team for this; and praying everyone comes out unscathed. My mate is a Derby fan; he was saying in their last Championship game their players were dead on their feet and looked knackered from day 1. He thinks they'll rest a few regulars as they are 2nd in Championship which is clearly a priority for them.
     
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