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Manchester United 1:0 Crystal Palace

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    Looking forward to this. Will take a few weeks I think until we see proper cohesion, but I'd say you should see some clear direction pretty quickly. I wouldn't overplay Ronaldo, he's 36, leave him for the bench and don't use him against Young Boys so he's fresh for the coming weeks. Ran his ass of yesterday.

    Rashford Greenwood Sancho
    Fred Matic Bruno
    Telles Maguire Lindelof Dalot
    De Gea​

    Probably something like this. No dramatic changes needed, just freshen them up. Assuming Wan Bissaka, Shaw, Varane, Cavani are still out? Not sure if Greenwood is ready to start again.
     
    I think Dalot done enough last night to get another chance even if AWB is available. AWB has had a poor season so far.

    I expect it will be largely the same team that played Arsenal. I'd then look to bring in VdB, Lingard and Greenwood and let Bruno, Rashford or Sancho and Ronald sit out the Young Boys game ahead of a busy period in the Premier League.

    Lindelof has been playing well and Telles has been doing ok so no need to rush Varane or Shaw back.
     
    With the midfield options in the squad any manager is somewhat hand tied, sure attacking wise you can swap and change players around.

    But the simple truth is McFred is the best pairing. Donny is more of an attacking option than a CM option. Plus there are no real DM options.

    So there isn’t much you can do.
     
    Crackers said:
    That's a big risk to take. Why play him if you're not sure he's going to make an effort?
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    He needs to sort his s#it out. Could he still be carrying an injury? He's had long enough to recover surely?
    The lad never stopped running & pressing when he first broke through but now it looks as though he feels he's 'made it' & chasing lost causes is beneath him. Maybe his MBE has gone to his head?
    You cannot fault the work he does off the field, but on it, recently? He needs to work harder. Hopefully he'll improve under Ralf, his numbers were good last season but I'd like to see him try a bit more.
     
    Personal preference would be a 4-3-1-2

    De Gea
    Dalot Lindelof Maguire Telles
    McTominay Matic Fred
    Fernandes
    Sancho Ronaldo
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    Shaw if fit and VDB to start over McTominay but I won't kid myself. None of the extra attacking players (Rashford, Greenwood, Martial) have shown enough lately to warrant getting picked when we could have an extra man in midfield.
     
    I'd like to see the below team.

    DDG
    AWB Lindelof Varane Telles
    DVB Fred
    Sancho Fernandes Rashford
    Ronaldo
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    If Varane is not fit yet then Maguire
     
    Martial - Ronaldo - Sancho
    Bruno
    Fred - Matic
    Telles - Baily - Harry - AWB
    De Gea

    Don't think we will see much changes to the usual displays we seen past few weeks. However very important for Ralf to start with a win to allow players to accept and follow his ideas quickly.
     
    Ok first of all, anyone knows what the kind of formation Rangnick would like to use?
     
    ———————-—De Gea—————-

    -AwB——Bailly——Maguire—Shaw-

    ——————vDB——Fred————-——

    ——-Sancho———————Lingard—-

    ————-Ronaldo——Martial————

    subs: deano, dalot, Lindelof (need plenty of speed and aerial ability; so to sit out), Jones, Telles, McTominay (sit down and learn fr bench), Mata, Rashford, Greenwood
     
    Last 3 league matches haven't been aired live in the US, it has been so demoralizing. Finally this one I get to watch live.

    De Gea

    AWB
    Lindelof
    Maguire
    Telles

    Fred
    VDB

    Sancho
    Bruno
    Rashford

    Ronaldo

    Hope to see Greenwood and Lingard get a run
     
    Damien said:
    Don't expect a radical transformation. As Rangnick himself said, there's only one 'proper' training session before the Palace game. Today will be mostly players recovering from yesterday's game but he said he'll be talking to them about what he wants. Can't see there being a full transformation to pressing but we'll likely be more solid defensively.

    Though there are games every three days from now until Brighton on the 18th, the game after this against Young Boys is a free hit so to speak so we'll probably see a fair bit of rotation against them with Ralf implementing his methods in training.
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    Crackers said:
    Agreed. I don't think we'll be pressing force, but I think our defensive shape will be a bit better. My guess is that he'll have better individual instructions for each players, especially around our midfielders and their positioning.
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    I feel like Carrick was able to change quite a few things from the Ole template relatively quickly, so I'm looking forward to see what Rangnick comes up with.

    Even the team selection within in the existing 4-2-3-1 has potential to influence things. (e.g., drop Ronaldo, go for Bruno, Sancho, Rashford front 3)? Does he play a DM? Or ask McT to position himself like one? Maguire or Bailly? Play Shaw effectively as the 3rd CB?

    Palace are a pretty good side, one of the best xGAs in the league etc. Going to be a good test.
     
    Longlivekeano said:
    ———————-—De Gea—————-

    -AwB——Bailly——Maguire—Shaw-

    ——————vDB——Fred————-——

    ——-Sancho———————Lingard—-

    ————-Ronaldo——Martial————

    subs: deano, dalot, Lindelof (need plenty of speed and aerial ability; so to sit out), Jones, Telles, McTominay (sit down and learn fr bench), Mata, Rashford, Greenwood
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    He'd have only had one proper training session, so far too early for him to try one of his counter-pressing formations like this IMO.
     
    Todd said:
    Last 3 league matches haven't been aired live in the US, it has been so demoralizing. Finally this one I get to watch live.

    De Gea

    AWB
    Lindelof
    Maguire
    Telles

    Fred
    VDB

    Sancho
    Bruno
    Rashford

    Ronaldo

    Hope to see Greenwood and Lingard get a run
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    Weren't they live on Peacock or summit?
     
    Dante said:
    I'm confident of the new manager bounce for this game. Just a bit worried about Ronaldo, but we should have enough regardless.

    The starting lineup will probably be the same as against Arsenal (though, again, maybe with Ronaldo starting on bench to save his legs). You rarely see radical changes in a coach's first game in charge. It'll take a few weeks before Rangnick will properly put his stamp on this team. So I'm expecting a performance that's roughly like under Ole on a good day.

    Can't wait!
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    Ronaldo might play here since our match after is the dead rubber against Young Boys.
     
    Be very interesting to see how he lines up.

    Assumed Ronaldos late injury against Arsenal would rule him out starting?
     
    Zlatattack said:
    I'd like to see the below team.

    DDG
    AWB Lindelof Varane Telles
    DVB Fred
    Sancho Fernandes Rashford
    Ronaldo
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    If Varane is not fit yet then Maguire
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    This is my guess. Though doesn't seem like Varane will be fit.

    Rangnick doesn't change the formation yet without much training time and DVB-Fred gets first shot as midfield pairing as it looks most like the most used style of Leipzig midfield pivot of two mobile #8s.

    Then against Young Boys we rest the entire group, McTominay-Matic as a pairing and Martial, Greenwood, Amad and one of Elanga or Cavani round out the front 4. No idea about the back 4.
     
    These are games we have been fecking up for years now.

    Extremely important games to close gaps against nothing teams and we piss it away every time. Sunday better change.
     
    I really have no idea how Rangnick will set up at all and that's exciting. I would guess a 4411/442 perhaps:

    De Gea
    Dalot - Lindelof - Maguire - Telles
    Greenwood - Donny - Fred - Sancho
    Bruno
    Ronaldo​
     
    Ronaldo will come off around 60th min having scored a hat-trick already
     
    Red Dreams said:
    Thought Ronaldo was taken off because of fatigue.
    I doubt he will start.
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    Agreed.

    It would be not really wise to start him this match, it's like only three days from last match. Plus imo he'd really want to play against YB for his CL records.
     
    So with Ronaldo might be rested could we finally see a Rashford-Greenwood-Sancho interchanging front three?

    I would love to see it.
     
    I wonder if Greenwood is fit to start this one now? He could have been impacted by covid for longer than we hoped. Either way I hope so because I’d much rather him than Rashford who ruins half our attacks. Amazing that he’s got some sort of undroppable status looking through this thread.
     
    Strelok said:
    Agreed.

    It would be not really wise to start him this match, it's like only three days from last match. Plus imo he'd really want to play against YB for his CL records.
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    Have to wait and see, but I really hope we aren't picking his games where he thinks he can score more goals for his records.

    I think he might start this one, heads off any conversation about Ralf not using him because of the pressing/work rate issue.
     
    I don't want to see Utd play a 4231 ever again. I would like a 433 with 3 proper midfielders. I don't know where Bruno would fit into that system but you can't have everything.
     
    They have Joel ward suspended and no proper fit CB. Kouyate might play there. Think he was in defense last time we played them. Should be capitalizing on their defensive absences
     
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