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Manchester United 1:3 Brighton & Hove Albion

Old Trafford

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Sun, 19 January 2025 @ 2:00pm GMT
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  • 50-50 chance we win this. Depends which team turns up.

    Some had said Zirkzee should start before Hojlund. But every time Zirkzee starts, we would wish Hojlund had started instead.

    I think the main issue is that we always seem to start the game in a conservative way and only when we fall behind do we start to press harder and attack. So whoever starts first seek to perform poorer.

    This team needs to play like we are behind at every start of the game.
     
    Brighton away results in the Premier League this season

    0-3 v Everton
    1-1 v Arsenal
    4-2 v Chelsea
    0-1 v Newcastle
    2-1 v Liverpool
    1-2 v Bournemouth
    3-1 v Fulham
    2-2 v Leicester
    1-1 v West Ham
    2-2 v Aston Villa
    0-2 v Ipswich

    W4 D4 L3 Scored 18 and conceded 16
     
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    —— de ligt——Maguire——licha——
    —Tony—— Bruno——Collyer—Dalot—
    ———Amad———————Nacho———
    ————————Zirk——————————


    2-1 us with big Z allowing runners off his deep hold up and outlet play!
     
    Onana
    Deligt Maguire Martinez
    Antony Ugarte Bruno Dalot
    Amad Zirkzee Garnacho
     
    Todd said:
    We should abandon the 3-4-3, but he won't, so I guess I'd play this:

    ................................Zirkzee.................................
    ..............................................................................
    ...............Bruno.......................Amad....................
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    Dalot...........Ugarte.........Collyer....................Maz
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    ............Martinez........................De Ligt.................
    ................................Maguire..................................
    ................................................................................
    .................................Onana....................................

    A win in this one would be a huge step in the right direction and would bolster any chance of finishing near the top half. They're on a good unbeaten run, though. I don't have much confidence.
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    :rolleyes:
     
    erikcred said:
    They haven't won much recently either, so wouldn't be rocking up with a lot of confidence. Plus they've dropped a lot of points this season after leading in their games.

    Pre-Amorim, I'd have said that conceding first would end the game for us. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a hard fought 2-1 win after Brighton score first.

    But the overreaction to yesterday's game is crazy. No, a team of amateurs wouldn't have done better against a PL team playing with pretty much nothing to lose at this point.
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    Sane post. Are you lost?
     
    If we rock up tomorrow and put in the same kind of first half that we did against Saints then we could well be 2-0 down by HT because Brighton are more capable of converting their chances. Scoring goals in open play in normal time is a real challenge for us, so we have to assert our authority early and create opportunities. Can't trust Ras to hit a barn door at the mo, so maybe Jay-Z will get his chance. Maybe both will start. Either way, I think we'll have to score 2 or 3 to win this one.
     
    Feel like we owe Brighton a doing over. Swear they've had our number in the league for an age, home and away.
     
    Not sure why but I have a good feeling about tomorrow. That Southampton game must surely have been a kick up the backside for a few and I think that will raise concentration and effort levels vs Brighton. You cannot take anybody for granted in this league. We need to play the way we played against Liverpool every single time.
     
    .........................Onana...............

    ..........De Ligt.Maguire.Martinez

    Dalot............................................Mazraoui
    ...............Mainoo.....Ugarte.....................
    .............Amad....................Bruno............
    ........................Zirkzee.......................

    It looks like a draw, maybe 1-1.
    Subs are going to be: Højlund, Collyer, Malacia
     
    Besides beating Ipswich most recently, their league form has been pretty poor for a while. 0 wins in 8 games prior to that, including draws with Leicester and Southampton and losses to Fulham and Crystal Palace.

    We do have a chance to win it. So much will depend on how much energy the team can bring. If we are constantly a bit behind the play like vs. Southampton they can punish us. Hoping the midfield in particular brings a lot more energy.
     
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    Todd said:
    We do not have the right players for a 3-4-3, that much is obvious. We're trying to force square pegs into a round hole.
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    Ffs, not this again. We didn't have players for 4-3-2-1 either, or 4-3-3 for that matter, so utterly stupid to revert back to that
     
    Mike Smalling said:
    Besides beating Ipswich most recently, their league form has been pretty poor for a while. 0 wins in 8 games prior to that, including draws with Leicester and Southampton and losses to Fulham and Southampton.

    We do have a chance to win it. So much will depend on how much energy the team can bring. If we are constantly a bit behind the play like vs. Southampton they can punish us. Hoping the midfield in particular brings a lot more energy.
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    So you’re saying they’ve just faced tougher opponents recently? Old Trafford must be one of the easiest fixtures in the league at the moment
     
    red_de_pologne said:
    So you’re saying they’ve just faced tougher opponents recently? Old Trafford must be one of the easiest fixtures in the league at the moment
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    How the hell did you get that from what I've written? That eight game winless streak was Southampton, Fulham, Leicester, Crystal Palace, West Ham, Brentford, Villa, Arsenal. That's mostly midtable or lower.

    I'm saying they have been drawing with teams that will get relegated and have lost twice to midtable teams. We are also a midtable team, so no reason we can't win the game.
     
    BarstoolProphet said:
    Ffs, not this again. We didn't have players for 4-3-2-1 either, or 4-3-3 for that matter, so utterly stupid to revert back to that
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    Do you think we have the players for 3421? Our squad is built for 4231 but the players are not good enough. 3421 is an even worse fit wo any wingbacks.
     
    Cathy Ferguson said:
    Do you think we have the players for 3421? Our squad is built for 4231 but the players are not good enough. 3421 is an even worse fit wo any wingbacks.
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    Not 100% sure that 'our squad is built for 4241' and 'our players are not good enough' (for it) make sense in the same sentence.
     
    Still ill said:
    Not 100% sure that 'our squad is built for 4241' and 'our players are not good enough' (for it) make sense in the same sentence.
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    We were mostly playing 4231, that is a fact, and we were poor. We are also poor in 3421. Better defensively but would look better going forward if we had proper fullbacks.
     
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    Cathy Ferguson said:
    We were mostly playing 4231, that is a fact, and we were poor. We are also poor in 3421. Better defensively but would look better forward with proper fullbacks.
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    Of course we'll look better when we get the full / wing back situation sorted - but with no real left back for so long that's been the case regardless of formation. I think Amorim is doing the right thing - long term - by getting his intended style in place right away, and being able to work out exactly what we need by the summer.

    We'd have carried on struggling at left back, and being inconsistent and struggling to break down teams due to limited technical ability and finishing whichever formation we played - as that's just the state of the current squad right now. But it's definitely better that the players all know what's going to be expected of them under Amorim, and Ruben has a good chance of seeing which ones have a future under him.
     
    Cathy Ferguson said:
    Do you think we have the players for 3421? Our squad is built for 4231 but the players are not good enough. 3421 is an even worse fit wo any wingbacks.
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    No, but hiring a manager mid-season, who is known for being stubborn regarding his tactical set up and try to force him to revert back to a formation which hardly pulled up trees either, just to maybe (unlikely) get a short-term gain result-wise, would be the stupidest move in the long line of stupid moves the club has made since Sir Alex retired. I genuinely can't believe this is a discussion at all, it's like a lot is suffering from a tactical Stockholm syndrome. Atleast call for Amorim to be sacked instead if it's so important to get back to the "comfortable" 4-2-3-1.
     
    Let's play man united Roulette. Will it be, red card, penalty conceded or set peice conceded this game! 10/11 games have had own of these three. That's not including Brunos reds earlier in the season and the other stupid pens we've given away. It's also 11/11 if you include individual mistakes (onanas pass vs Plzen).
     
    I think Yoro will be dropped, was woeful against pacey winger.

    Onana
    Deligt. Maguire. Martinez
    Maz. Ugarte. Collyer. Dalot
    Amad. Bruno
    Zirkzee
     
    BarstoolProphet said:
    No, but hiring a manager mid-season, who is known for being stubborn regarding his tactical set up and try to force him to revert back to a formation which hardly pulled up trees either, just to maybe (unlikely) get a short-term gain result-wise, would be the stupidest move in the long line of stupid moves the club has made since Sir Alex retired. I genuinely can't believe this is a discussion at all, it's like a lot is suffering from a tactical Stockholm syndrome. Atleast call for Amorim to be sacked instead if it's so important to get back to the "comfortable" 4-2-3-1.
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    Yep, the great 4231 that statistically should have had us finishing 14th last season. Let’s delay moving forward as a team so we can get the players back into a system where they were still absolutely crap to begin with.
     
    BarstoolProphet said:
    No, but hiring a manager mid-season, who is known for being stubborn regarding his tactical set up and try to force him to revert back to a formation which hardly pulled up trees either, just to maybe (unlikely) get a short-term gain result-wise, would be the stupidest move in the long line of stupid moves the club has made since Sir Alex retired. I genuinely can't believe this is a discussion at all, it's like a lot is suffering from a tactical Stockholm syndrome. Atleast call for Amorim to be sacked instead if it's so important to get back to the "comfortable" 4-2-3-1.
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    So 4231 is a Stockholm syndrome, but 3421 is not?

    The decision has already been made and I can just highlight the risk associated with changing system mid-season when we lack wingbacks and AMs.

    Amorim should be given at least 2 years and we need many new players regardless of system.
     
    I've just given up expecting anything from this team. After the Southampton game during the week, it's hit home that there's not one single Premier league fixture that this current team can be confidently predicted to win. Not one.

    Expecting another struggle at home and a defeat ranging from anywhere between 1-2 to 0-3 depending on how shit we are and how clinical Brighton are.
     
    Oscar Bonavena said:
    I've just given up expecting anything from this team. After the Southampton game during the week, it's hit home that there's not one single Premier league fixture that this current team can be confidently predicted to win. Not one.

    Expecting another struggle at home and a defeat ranging from anywhere between 1-2 to 0-3 depending on how shit we are and how clinical Brighton are.
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    Brighton aren't in great form themselves so who knows. Could be a narrow win or like you say, a 3-0 hammering.

    The only production I can confidently make is if we win, it won't be a comfortable 2-0. It never is.
     
    Dannn411 said:
    Under no circumstances should Casemiro see the pitch tomorrow.
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    I feel a bit sorry for Casemiro in a way because when playing alongside Ugarte this season, he did put in a few good performances.

    But the last team he played it was with old man Eriksen versus a 3 man Newcastle midfield of Guimares, Tonali and Joelinton, and he hasn't been seen since!

    So I still think he's good enough to do a job here and there but only if it's with Ugarte. But it looks like he's out the door!
     
    RedDevil [NC] said:
    ————————Onana————————
    —— de ligt——Maguire——licha——
    —Tony—— Bruno——Collyer—Dalot—
    ———Amad———————Nacho———
    ————————Zirk——————————


    2-1 us with big Z allowing runners off his deep hold up and outlet play!
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    This is the line up I'd go with also. Ugarte and Mainoo looked knackered against Southampton so a rest would do them good and having 2 runners playing behind Zirkzee will get the best out of him.
     
    Mike Smalling said:
    How the hell did you get that from what I've written? That eight game winless streak was Southampton, Fulham, Leicester, Crystal Palace, West Ham, Brentford, Villa, Arsenal. That's mostly midtable or lower.

    I'm saying they have been drawing with teams that will get relegated and have lost twice to midtable teams. We are also a midtable team, so no reason we can't win the game.
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    Was tongue in cheek.. Fulham Brentford Villa are tougher opponents right now
     
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  • Man Utd win
  • Brighton win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 40% Man Utd 2:1 Brighton
  • 13% Man Utd 1:2 Brighton
  • 10% Man Utd 2:0 Brighton
  • 7% Man Utd 1:1 Brighton
  • 6% Man Utd 2:2 Brighton
  • 5% Man Utd 0:2 Brighton
  • 5% Man Utd 1:3 Brighton
  • 4% Man Utd 1:0 Brighton
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Brighton
  • 2% Man Utd 0:3 Brighton
  • 2% Man Utd 3:1 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 2:3 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 3:3 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 4:2 Brighton
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Overall possession
51.2% 48.8%
Shots
10 6
Shots on target
1 3
Total touches in the box
28 26
Fouls
13 12
Corners
4 2

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