Luton Town 0:3 Manchester United

DickDastardly · Sep 22, 2020

Every time i watch us play.. . it's the same thought, over and over again.

What in the feck is that?! Why do we play like that??

There is something deeply wrong with us, can't even put my finger on it.

Red Shorts · Sep 22, 2020

First bit of good play there in the second half, ending with a Championship level finish. Come on guys

K Stand Knut · Sep 22, 2020

VdB is going to be better than Pogba

Samid · Sep 22, 2020

Lingard looking like a goat

Ranchero · Sep 22, 2020

And Ole just looks so casual about it all. Like he is a mere spectator

yamo123x · Sep 22, 2020

So little quality on the field of play, its garbage really

2 man midfield · Sep 22, 2020

Lingardium leviosa

bosnian_red · Sep 22, 2020

Devil81 said:
Why do away with the Carabao Cup?

We've won feck all for three years and Ole needs to break his duck. The squad needs a winning mentality, this is easiest trophy to win.

It's the least important but its a trophy.

Because the fixture list for all teams who have champions league or europa league this year. For the year they should've removed teams in Europe from the league cup. It'll just cause injuries down the stretch.

DickDastardly · Sep 22, 2020

K Stand Knut said:
VdB is going to be better than Pogba

Not exactly hard.

BlahRules · Sep 22, 2020

MattofManchester said:
Ah. Didn't actually know that, must have missed the memo, but still feel we should be letting the others play.

I agree we should be playing Mengi but Maguire is playing because his not match fit, the excuse why he was shit last game.

sammsky1 · Sep 22, 2020

Dudu said:
How are luton so much better than us at keeping the ball?!

And yet haven’t tested Hendo even once. The opposition will get the ball sometimes you know?

GazTheLegend · Sep 22, 2020

DickDastardly said:
Every time i watch us play.. . it's the same thought, over and over again.

What in the feck is that?! Why do we play like that??

There is something deeply wrong with us, can't even put my finger on it.

Yeah - it's like we have all the attacking impetus coached completely out of us. We need to speed up everywhere and stop being so casual with the ball.

pratyush_utd · Sep 22, 2020

Even Luton can pass around our press but we are struggling to play around theirs

Gandalf Greyhame · Sep 22, 2020

2 man midfield said:
Lingardium leviosa

Obiorahking_ · Sep 22, 2020

I think Ole should make our players run 10 mins of extreme windsprints every time they cut in and take a wild shot when theres an open option.

Dudu · Sep 22, 2020

2nd half posession feels like 70 - 30 to Luton.

Alvaro Maestre · Sep 22, 2020

2 man midfield said:
Lingardium leviosa

more like LingardAvada Kedavra

MUM · Sep 22, 2020

That's not a yellow you tit.

Dr. Dwayne · Sep 22, 2020

feck off that was a great tackle.

Annihilate Now! · Sep 22, 2020

Is this ref just making up what is and isn't a free kick in this game?

eltigreFalcao · Sep 22, 2020

Is sad to watch this game, only bright spot is VdB

Any of Luton's CBs is as good as ours

mariachi-19 · Sep 22, 2020

That's a horseshit free kick. That was a good challenge from Williams

space · Sep 22, 2020

Harsh yellow that

Sara125 · Sep 22, 2020

Someone should tell VDB all this one touch football doesn’t work when your teammates are lethargic snails with no footballing brains whatsoever

Darlington Padgett · Sep 22, 2020

Can't even look convincing against a championship side ffs

Woziak · Sep 22, 2020

Is it me or do united look like the championship team hitting long balls to find igalho why Luton play some nice football, what has been going on during the last few weeks in training is really the question all united fans should be asking Mata and Lingard offer absolutely nothing now so time to just move them on !!!

Crashoutcassius · Sep 22, 2020

Sara125 said:
Before this match I had no idea Luton are a championship team. Heard they’re actually decent too. I dunno there’s just those teams that you automatically assume are in League 2 or somewhere.

Jones has done a great job.... My hair dresser has been banging on about him for years, I lived every moment of him going to Stoke and then coming back

Jake · Sep 22, 2020

Thought that was a good tackle really.

Kearnkoff69 · Sep 22, 2020

Gandalf Greyhame said:
While I agree, you need a functional XI for that, with structure, tempo and width.

We have 2 CAMs in the wide positions, a defensive RB on the right and a raw RB on the left. Both Lingard and Mata like drifting inwards, cannot cross, dribble or take a defender on. So they'll look for passing options. Neither Williams nor AWB are making wide runs and the rare moment they do, they can't cross and pass it back again. Ighalo has been poor with his movement and link up play, and VDB is too crowded out.

We're back to a familiar problem of playing square pegs in round holes.

I agree with your sentiment, but do think that a lot of what you describe is on our coaching and training. While the rigidity of LvG's cones (each player sticks to their cone) was perhaps unhelpful, there is something to be said for drilling positional sense into players. I have no problem with Mata, VdB, and Lingard starting along a line, but there has to be understanding between them that if Mata drifts inside, VdB slips out wide to maintain shape (and vice versa on the other side of the pitch).

There's playing square pegs in round holes and then there's moving the pieces around so that the square pegs still fit together. You only have to look as far as Gasperini at Atalanta for an example of how easily players can adapt to and embrace a creative tactical setup, and how that setup can turn a group of bargain bin buys into a fearsome squad.

Dec9003 · Sep 22, 2020

We’ve not got started this second half, feel like that happens a lot with us.

Ranchero · Sep 22, 2020

Nick7 said:
I’m pretty sure we did not buy him as an attacking full back, so what exactly is your point?

The point is (sorry if this sounds condescending thro repetition) that is what we want him to be. And he is not that player

Wednesday at Stoke · Sep 22, 2020

This ref is trying his hardest to make things interesting.

redshaw · Sep 22, 2020

Poor refereeing again. Brandon with a great tackle gets booked.

DomesticTadpole · Sep 22, 2020

Woziak said:
Is it me or do united look like the championship team hitting long balls to find igalho why Luton play some nice football, what has been going on during the last few weeks in training is really the question all united fans should be asking Mata and Lingard offer absolutely nothing now so time to just move them on !!!

It's what happens if you have big lone striker. When Martial plays we play to his pace not his physique.

sammsky1 · Sep 22, 2020

Great team commitment from Williams to sprint back and make the tactical foul and take a yellow card for the team. (I don’t think it was a foul)

Charlie Foley · Sep 22, 2020

Ranchero said:
The point is (sorry if this sounds condescending thro repetition) that is what we want him to be. And he is not that player

Who is we?

Superunknown · Sep 22, 2020

Sara125 said:
Someone should tell VDB all this one touch football doesn’t work when your teammates are lethargic snails with no footballing brains whatsoever

I'm looking forward to our staff coaching all of that talent out of him.

TsuWave · Sep 22, 2020

maybe one day I’ll understand people’s faith in Ole

Dudu · Sep 22, 2020

sammsky1 said:
And yet haven’t tested Hendo even once. The opposition will get the ball sometimes you know?

Right.. I never said their playing well or anything.

But it feels like we've just given up the ball way too easily and allowing them to dictate the midfield.

Withnail · Sep 22, 2020

Jake said:
Thought that was a good tackle really.

It was. He got the ball. Shouldn't have even been a free.

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