Liverpool 2:2 Manchester United

pauldyson1uk · Sunday at 15:48

when is Yoro actually going to start a game , thought he would today

Jev · Sunday at 15:49

M Bison said:
I’ve been quite critical up to this point but you can understand him going defensive in this one!

Nah. It’s about initiative as well. We’ve been extremely vulnerable in defence while having zero attacking threat with five at the back. Literally no upside to keeping it up.

Marcelinho87 · Sunday at 15:50

First game where we’ve actual had time to train beforehand? Hopeful it has had some impact.

NotoriousISSY · Sunday at 15:51

predator said:
We have nothing to lose, which I think is factual, and I predict liverpool will go for the jugular from the word go and may get caught by our counter, which is wishful/hopeful/desperate thinking by myself.

I'm going to put 25 quid on us at 6/1 anyway. Stranger things have happened. This United 'team' never fail to amaze me.

If you send it to me, the same result happens…only you’re not lining the pockets of the bookies :lol:

Jazz · Sunday at 15:51

IncyWincySpider said:
Amorim has said himself our players are anxious, they panic, they lack confidence, there’s no leadership. Unless he’s inspired them somehow in ways we’ve not seen before, we know exactly how this goes.

Of course the players are anxious etc. That's plain to see. No way can he or anyone else fix it quickly. It's a big big problem.
They really need to find some kind of mechanism to deal with this. It happens to all the players whether new or not. As much as anything, the press, pundits, constant negativity will make you feel scared shitless.

Crackers · Sunday at 15:52

Andycoleno9 said:
I am surprised as you.

He's only 18, we can't be rushing his development.

NotoriousISSY · Sunday at 15:52

So how many goals will Martinez be culpable for today?

At least 2 I reckon.

sixdwarf · Sunday at 15:52

DomesticTadpole said:
Possibly. Hope he didn't catch something at a nightclub.

He phoned in 'sick' after taking an early morning flight on the day of training after being on the razzle in Belfast. And was disciplined. That's previous.

Still ill · Sunday at 15:52

pauldyson1uk said:
when is York actually going to start a game , thought he would today

I mean sure, we've had our problems up top but Dwight is 53. I don't think that's the answer.

IncyWincySpider · Sunday at 15:52

Jazz said:
Of course the players are anxious etc. That's plain to see. No way can he or anyone else fix it quickly. It's a big big problem.
They really need to find some kind of mechanism to deal with this. It happens to all the players whether new or not. As much as anything, the press, pundits, constant negativity will make you feel scared shitless.

I’m assuming we have psychologists working at the club? Maybe we need different ones.

MonkeysMagic · Sunday at 15:53

Most teams up against superior opposition, can be defensively compact and close spaces but unfortunately even if we were to fall back into flat back 5, I can see Liv having plenty of space in our defensive third. Our players are just not switched on to sense danger, too lethargic and physically weak. I can accept their technical inferiority but it's the work rate that often let's us down and so it will again today!

Buster15 · Sunday at 15:53

Fortitude said:
Not the best environment to throw an 18-year old who has been in the league for less than a couple of months into.

Fair enough. But if you are good enough you are old enough.

kouroux · Sunday at 15:53

IncyWincySpider said:
I’m assuming we have psychologists working at the club? Maybe we need different ones.

Those psychologists will need psychologists of their own

DJ_21 · Sunday at 15:53

AbstruseAlan said:
Oh come on, yeah let's try Garnacho at LWB vs Salah playing at his peak away at Anfield. Give your head a wobble.

Like Dalot can defend any better. Or attack for that matter :lol:

I’d rather someone that gives us a chance of scoring goals. We ain’t defending regardless

NZT-One · Sunday at 15:54

Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
In an attempt to be somewhat positive - our lineup is stronger than the team Rangnick fielded at Anfield 3 years ago, or the lineup Ten Hag fielded 1 year ago. If we can keep it tight in the first 30 minutes then I have faith we'll grow into the game.

I am sure if anything, you'll see a positive performance from our captain today. You do more often than not

Dazzmondo · Sunday at 15:54

Still ill said:
I mean sure, we've had our problems up top but Dwight is 53. I don't think that's the answer.

I still fancy him over our other options

Red Royal · Sunday at 15:54

Mainoo played well when he came on the other night. Hope he can carry that form on.. we need a solid midfield today. Please no early yellow cards for us (or worse)

Walters_19_MuFc · Sunday at 15:54

Squeaky_Bum_Time said:
Boy you’re really misremembering that game. Malacia was the worst player on the pitch and got subbed at half time. He was also our worst player vs Bodo/Glimt, I think his only other start under Amorim

No, I don’t think I am. I distinctly remember saying he did well against Saka, especially given the circumstances. Yes, he was subbed off shortly after picking up a yellow card, but defensively, he was relatively solid up until that point.

As for the Bodo/Glimt game, I agree he was poor. However, it was his first match back after an 18-month layoff—surely some rustiness was to be expected in that situation?

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/tyrell-malacia-2024-25-performances.483493/page-9#post-32690619

gerdm07 · Sunday at 15:55

groovyalbert said:
Glad to see Maz back at WB but do worry about the legs of a defence with both De Ligt and Maguire in it

Maz is better as a CB and he has more speed than DeLigt. I was hoping Amad would play RWB.

RedDevil [NC] · Sunday at 15:55

If give up another olympico corner goal I’m not watching for the rest of the season!

SparcMac · Sunday at 15:55

pauldyson1uk said:
when is York actually going to start a game , thought he would today

I don't think Dwight has the legs to play at this level anymore.

Gabriel Djemba-Bebe · Sunday at 15:56

NZT-One said:
I am sure if anything, you'll see a positive performance from our captain today. You do more often than not

Imagine that. Finding positives about a player in the team you support. Absurd.

Withnail · Sunday at 15:56

Squeaky_Bum_Time said:
Wish he’d at least switch Maz and Dalot around. Both are not great at wingback but Dalot would end up not having to cut back to avoid using his left foot. And Dalot is better than Mazraoui at finding space out wide, so we might get a decent cross or two from him if he’s playing on the right.

Feels like we’re sacrificing both sides the way it is now.

I was thinking that in the last few games when Dalot was in space to cross and refusing to do so on his left.

Maz can play on both sides as well but doesn't get into the positions where he could cross from wide.

Jazz · Sunday at 15:56

IncyWincySpider said:
I’m assuming we have psychologists working at the club? Maybe we need different ones.

If we have them - they are clearly crap.
One of the first things Klopp did was to hire a good psychologist.....

justsomebloke · Sunday at 15:56

Well at least it's a logical best 11 kind of line-up this time.

Thought Bruno was still suspended, relieved he's not.

Withnail · Sunday at 15:56

Tom Van Persie said:
Would've preferred Mazraoui in the back three with Amad dropping to wing back but we really don't have many options at the moment. Putting Amad at wing back means starting Garnacho or Zirkzee.

Could we not put Eriksen alongside Bruno if we moved Amad back?

nazanto · Sunday at 15:57

Why he still persisting on playing both Maz and Dalot?

sepulturite · Sunday at 15:58

Still ill said:
I mean sure, we've had our problems up top but Dwight is 53. I don't think that's the answer.

was thinking the same thing

sepulturite · Sunday at 15:58

nazanto said:
Why he still persisting on playing both Maz and Dalot?

Because we don't have anyone else

pauldyson1uk · Sunday at 15:59

Fortitude said:
Not the best environment to throw an 18-year old who has been in the league for less than a couple of months into.

I disagree , if your good enough for the first team and all that

100 · Sunday at 15:59

nazanto said:
Why he still persisting on playing both Maz and Dalot?

I understand everyone’s frustration with it but don’t mind him doing it away to Liverpool

Crackers · Sunday at 15:59

pauldyson1uk said:
when is York actually going to start a game , thought he would today

Dwight? He's a little old now

Tom Van Persie · Sunday at 15:59

Withnail said:
Could we not put Eriksen alongside Bruno if we moved Amad back?

Yeah that's another way of doing it but after watching Eriksen on Monday I wouldn't fancy him going up against that Liverpool midfield.

Walters_19_MuFc · Sunday at 15:59

groovyalbert said:
Glad to see Maz back at WB but do worry about the legs of a defence with both De Ligt and Maguire in it

I must say, I prefer Mazraoui at RCB, primarily because the roles our wide centre-backs adopt, both on and off the ball, closely resemble those of a full-back. Players like De Ligt, or even Yoro—who has filled in there a few times—often appear quite vulnerable when tasked with defending in wider areas. Mazraoui's skill set seems much better suited to handle those situations effectively.

Dazzmondo · Sunday at 15:59

sepulturite said:
Because we don't have anyone else

Yes we do. We played Amad at rwb for Amorim's opening games and we were significantly better

pauldyson1uk · Sunday at 16:00

Still ill said:
I mean sure, we've had our problems up top but Dwight is 53. I don't think that's the answer.

Predictive typing FFS

mitchmouse · Sunday at 16:00

how the feck do we keep getting Michael Oliver... and how do the PL think he's the best ref in the country?

The Brown Bull · Sunday at 16:00

A train ( well oiled train) v a tricycle today.

DWelbz19 · Sunday at 16:00

Dalot and Martinez left side against Salah in the form of his life could be nasty.

Crackers · Sunday at 16:01

The Brown Bull said:
A train ( well oiled train) v a tricycle today.

We're wheely wheely fecked aren't we?

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