Because it wasn't just the defenders, you utterly failed to stop ball coming into him and when he dropped deeper to pick up the ball he manhandled your midfielders, tactically you didn't have a clue how to deal with him. For what it's worth I'd much prefer Fellaini to be going up against Can than Toure.
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Because all your defenders are shite at dealing with aerial balls and physical scraps.
You keep banging on about "hoofing the ball to Fellaini" and that is how United have the best chance of winning. Can you clarify why you think so?
who do you think demoralised them? We are coming off a very convincing win whilst you were woeful against a Swansea side blunted by the departure of Bony.
Losing to Chelsea in the league cup, going out of the Europa league, etc.
Skrtel and Sakho both played very well (Sakho had a shaky first ten minutes, natural though as he was coming back from an injury). Can was the weak link in our defence against Swansea. Anyway, as you lot always like to say, we're "game raising cnuts".
Where did I say it was the only solution? Please, point it out. What's that? I didn't say that? Thought not. I said it was your best chance and that remains true.
Sakho and Skrtel are in great form at the moment and neither of them have struggled physically against players that they have come up against (they along with Allen and Mignolet have been our best performing players). The one defender who this is true of is Can (aerially, at least).
The midfield will be different too though...
Skrtel I can understand, though his methods are more taking the player than dealing with the ball. It normally works, so okay. I guess with Sakho I'm just very taken back by how awkward looking he looks when he jumps that I miss how good he actually is in that sense.
Its weird we weren't demoralised by being knocked out of the FA cup by Arsenal.
Henderson, Can, Lallana, Sterling, Courtinho and Sturbridge all played. Its not going to be a whole lot different.
You'd think we were playing Bayern Munich... who do you think demoralised them? We are coming off a very convincing win whilst you were woeful against a Swansea side blunted by the departure of Bony.
...a Swansea side who beat you lot twice.
Not a clue what you are on about!
Henderson and Can were our midfielders that day. It's not going to be Henderson and Can against you lot.
How so? I'm not saying you won't be able to get a result by passing it around us, you might be able to - I'm just saying what I think your best chance of getting a result is. Regardless of which way you play, I think we'll win.
Yeah Joe Allen is going to do a much better job up against Fellaini than Can would
Incredible really, we were much the better side when we lost to them, whereas they were much better than you and lost.Have lvpool fans not grown tired of warning us about the upcoming Scouse tidal wave every day for the last 6 weeks?
How every single match Utd have left is the trickiest of all time, the trickiness on such a level you can't even imagine, yet they're going to waltz through theirs like it's a day at the park.
72 points a given apparently, only dropping points in 3 games as Barney says.
Every time Utd win, the race for 4th thread is bumped given reasons why it's not as impressive and why the next one.. That's the tricky one. I even read posts praising the virtues of Aston Villa.
The sky is falling in..Yeah Joe Allen is going to do a much better job up against Fellaini than Can would
Didn't the elbow put him in his place last time round? Think he'll give Fellaini a wide berth....
By suggesting that our best chance of scoring or getting a result against yourselves is "through hoofing the ball to Fellaini", you're giving far too much credit to your team and defense. Don't get me wrong, you've been very decent since the loss to us, however, your "tough" games have been home to an out of form Man City and a Spurs side you don't seem to rate; where your mighty team conceded a total of 3 goals.
Your post, and the few others from you fellow supporters, are close to delusional.
The majority of the United fans here have predicted a draw or a loss (which is quite humble); whereas, the Liverpool fans here think our only chance of getting past the mighty Skirtel, Can, Lovren, Sakho and Mignolet is through hoofing to Fellaini...
Like I said, we're not playing a top European team, we're playing the fifth placed team in the league.Yeah Joe Allen is going to do a much better job up against Fellaini than Can would
Allen/Lucas playing instead of Can affects the entire midfield. It means Henderson can push forward and be at his best rather than taking it in turns. It also means we're a significantly better pressing team. Fellaini will obviously dominate Allen in the air (he would with Can too). You probably would have said the same thing about Yaya Toure when we last played City or Wanyama when we last played Southampton - Allen was one of our best players in both of those games though.
We've conceded 8 goals in 13 games since our loss against you. Seven of those goals came in three games. I don't think I am giving our defence too much credit.
The bolded is hilarious. It was the Everton, Tottenham, City, West Ham, Southampton, etc. games where we were going to be found out a few weeks ago.
No one has said that the only chance you have of getting past our defence is by hoofing it to Fellaini. We have only said that is your best chance. And it is.
So are we in the big games this season though, and unlike the last few United teams that visited Anfield, we now have a fully functioning midfield. As others have pointed out, United fans are at least admitting that this will be a very difficult match, were as you lot are dismissing us a team that's best chance of winning is from long balls, which is pure rubbish and completely overestimating your team.
I think it will likely be a draw too - most of the LFC fans on here haven't said otherwise. Merely replying to posts from the United fans in here.
Stoke away on the last day is a lot more tricky than West Brom, imo. Although we always struggle against Pulis' teams away from home.---------De Gea
Val-Smalling-Jones-Shaw
-----Carrick-Blind
-Ander--Mata--Fellaini
--------RooneyIf we draw on Sunday, both teams will finish on 72 points and it will be decided on goal difference. You heard it here first.Team should be
-----------De Gea
Rafa-Smalling-Jones-Shaw
-------Carrick-Ander
-Di Maria---Fellaini---Young
---------Rooney
But of course Van Gaal will have to fit his son Blind in somewhere
Since beating you, we've scored 21 and conceded 9 - we're shit.
Since losing to us, you've scored 24 and conceded 8 - you're an amazing team, and our BEST chance of beating you is hoofing the ball to Fellaini.
The bold segment is hilarious. Everton are fighting for survival; West Ham have won 2 games in their last 15 or so; Southampton had hit a bad patch of form. Not every game is tough, although, given Liverpool have been finishing 6th and 7th for most of the past few seasons, I guess you'll have more tough games than not.
Last comment confirms the delusion. It's not our best chance. You're over-rating your defense.We will beat them convincingly
Hindsight is a distorting thing. As Barney points out, it was the run of games in February when the wheels would come off. That was the received wisdom. But now they've been played without losing our way the rationale has changed.
Fact is, for 18 months United fans have been prophesising disaster to be just around the corner for Liverpool. 'Something' was going to cause the form to dip...Let's get a dose of reality. It is a way from home against an opponent who have been getting good results. it will a tough match. Hopefully United will come out on top, but draw would be a good result.
On the contrary, the, so called, tough games against Everton, West Ham and Southampton came by at a time where Liverpool seem to be hitting their stride and the opposing teams had either never found any form or were losing it. Lets take a closer look:
Everton: Picked up 5 points from 5 before you played them. Tough game? No
West Ham: Picked up 5 points from 5 before you played them. Tough game? No
Southampton: Picked up 14 points from 8 before you played them. Tough game? Maybe
Heck Man City picked up 9 points from 6 when you played them.
I'm not sure who predicted the "wheels would come off", as not all these fixtures cannot be perceived as tough, especially for a team chasing fourth, this season, and having finished 2nd, last year.Can't wait for this one. We'll win convincingly again.
And i see the dippers are getting their excuses in early. The only chance pool have in this game is coutinho scoring a "worldie" from outside the box. Apart from that they'll not offer much of a threat.
Believe me it was doom and gloom apparently.
Regardless, United have played Southampton, West Ham and Swansea in the past couple of months and accumulated 1 point from those opponents. They're not 'easy' games when put together and the Merseyside derby isn't really a good judge of form.
That's happened twice in the league this season. Not really the only chance of scoring. Maybe it'll come from a Valencia back pass...
Yes, they're not easy; but they shouldn't be considered tough. Teams like Liverpool and United, with the aspirations and squads they have, should be beating the aforementioned teams, with relative ease. Yes, you may hit a bump against one or two, but I wouldn't consider them as tough.
I should add that if we can't beat them, then it says more about us than it does about them i.e. I think, obviously, we're both not that good, which is why we'll see a very close game, this weekend. And hoofing to Fellaini is not our f**kng best chance.I think alot of people are going to come crashing down to earth on Sunday. Too many people are believing we have turned a corner because of the Spurs match.
You should be hoping for a third then. Maybe... or Jones
I haven't said you're shit, nor have I said we're amazing.
The bold isn't my opinion. It was what was being said a few weeks ago by United supporters in the Liverpool thread and the top four thread.
Ahh, I hate the word delusion. Too many people, including yourself, use it whenever they disagree with someone else's opinion.
Bingo.
Read the Liverpool thread and the top four thread before that run of fixtures. Most people were predicting we'd struggle, especially still being in the dreaded Europa league.
What excuses are being given?
After every round of fixtures, certain threads are forever bumped by Pool fans banging on about how the positions are about to change because of the next run of fixtures. It seems to happen more when Utd win than anything else funnily enaugh.
Newcastle and Spurs are the most recent examples. They're almost trying to convince themselves than the rest of us.
Keep an eye out for it buddy. Amidst all the post match / Herrera / Rooney threads it's always there.
Utd win and there's reasons why it's not as impressive but every Liverpool victory is a sign of something deeper.
it's like Stan Collymore taking big gulps mid sentences on TalkSport.. You won't notice it at first, but when you do it's all you can hear!
I would say you were very much found out in the first part of the season. So most fans were right.
Your team played above itself last year. When you bottled it your team went back to normal standard. Any team playing with confidence, sometimes paints over the cracks in the team, e.g always winning the second ball, then all of a sudden the ball always seems to fall to the opposition. From what I have seen so far this season, not one of the top teams is playing with unbelievable confidence. If your last performances reflect your team playing with confidence and form then god help you.Why did Liverpool fail so badly against a team named after a John Cleese character, a made up team from Bulgaria and a team with "shit" in their name?
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