Liverpool 1:2 Manchester United

devilish · Mar 18, 2015

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Valencia----Smalling---Rojo------Shaw

------------------Blind---------------
------------Herrera---Carrick------------

Mata----------------------------------Young

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Question234 · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
None of your intelligence is any good if one opportunity arises for the ball to be kicked 5 yards ahead of you down the wing, and those sorts of opportunities will arise. They may not have against Spurs, but that was Spurs. At Old Trafford. You're (or Blind will be) facing Liverpool, at Anfield. The team that nearly won the league and are on that form again.

Disagree with this, they have been winning but they're no where near the form they were on last season. They were absolutely blitzing teams senseless, Saurez was world class and Sturiddge was such a threat. Most oppositions didn't stand a chance. Only Jose stood up to them at Anfield once they hit that form and he had to park the premium gold standard megabus.

It will be a struggle but I refuse to acknowledge that they are even close to last seasons form. They aren't.

Brightonian · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
None of your intelligence is any good if one opportunity arises for the ball to be kicked 5 yards ahead of you down the wing, and those sorts of opportunities will arise. They may not have against Spurs, but that was Spurs. At Old Trafford. You're (or Blind will be) facing Liverpool, at Anfield. The team that nearly won the league and are on that form again.

Nah. They've pulled themselves out of the disastrous form of the first six months, but they're nowhere near the superb stuff of last year. Huffed and puffed against Swansea and were incredibly lucky to get away with three points in a game that the Swans really deserved to win after battering your goal in the first half and then containing you fairly well in the second, that ricochet goal aside.

RobinLFC · Mar 18, 2015

Brightonian said:
Nah. They've pulled themselves out of the disastrous form of the first six months, but they're nowhere near the superb stuff of last year. Huffed and puffed against Swansea and were incredibly lucky to get away with three points in a game that the Swans really deserved to win after battering your goal in the first half and then containing you fairly well in the second, that ricochet goal aside.

You don't deserve to win a game if you miss your chances. They ran out of steam in the second half, especially after our goal. Maybe we didn't deserve to win but saying Swansea deserved to is pushing it too far for me. It's by winning the games you play poorly that you're going places.

Brightonian · Mar 18, 2015

RobinLFC said:
You don't deserve to win a game if you miss your chances. They ran out of steam in the second half, especially after our goal. Maybe we didn't deserve to win but saying Swansea deserved to is pushing it too far for me. It's by winning the games you play poorly that you're going places.

Either way, you have to admit that that performance, 'playing poorly', makes Dumbstar's suggestion that you're reproducing the electric form of last year laughable, which was my point.

Red Devil BB · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
If you play the same team as versus Spurs I will personally come and polish your shoes. Blind at left back with Sterling playing RWB. What could possibly go wrong? Make it happen LvG, I mean Louis Harsh.

Sterling as a wingback is all kinds of wrong. I hope it happens. That same side as well. Blind-Carrick- Fellarni

RobinLFC · Mar 18, 2015

Brightonian said:
Either way, you have to admit that that performance, 'playing poorly', makes Dumbstar's suggestion that you're reproducing the electric form of last year laughable, which was my point.

We're nowhere near the level of last year's performances at this stage of the season, but you can't deny we've caught great form in 2015 - haven't lost a league game since United away in December. Form and level of performances are two different aspects of the game for me in that regard.

Shark · Mar 18, 2015

RobinLFC said:
We're nowhere near the level of last year's performances at this stage of the season, but you can't deny we've caught great form in 2015 - haven't lost a league game since United away in December. Form and level of performances are two different aspects of the game for me in that regard.

Your form has been impressive, no doubt about that. However it's only United's poor away form that allowed you to sneak back into our grasp in the first place, so I'd count yourself fortunate with that. We'd be home and dry if only we found a few more winning goals from all of those draws to cannon fodder.

Dumbstar · Mar 18, 2015

Brightonian said:
Either way, you have to admit that that performance, 'playing poorly', makes Dumbstar's suggestion that you're reproducing the electric form of last year laughable, which was my point.

I never used the word electric. I said last season's league winning form, which means points tally. Which means number of wins compared to losses and draws. Its league winning form whichever way you dress it up.

By all means use the Swansea game to give yourself a false sense of security about our 'mediocrity' and the Spurs game to boost your own sense of turning a corner. I'm just stating if you use the same team and tactics against us away from home, as you did against Spurs, you'll be shot down like a sick puppy.

Sitting back and hoofing long balls to Fellaini may be your best option on Sunday. Use it.

RedFish · Mar 18, 2015

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Valencia----Smalling---Jones------Blind

------------------Carrick------------------
Di Maria----Herrera---Fellaini-----Young

----------------Rooney--------------------

My preferred team v Liverpool. I changed my mind about Mata for this game, purely because I feel Di Maria is worth the gamble and is big game player, a game changer and is truly world class. His pace on the counter could prove be the difference. Young is nailed on to start, and deserves his place. We have to win the midfield battle and I'm convinced we can win this match now!!

Shark · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
I never used the word electric. I said last season's league winning form, which means points tally. Which means number of wins compared to losses and draws. Its league winning form whichever way you dress it up.

By all means use the Swansea game to give yourself a false sense of security about our 'mediocrity' and the Spurs game to boost your own sense of turning a corner. I'm just stating if you use the same team and tactics against us away from home, as you did against Spurs, you'll be shot down like a sick puppy.

Sitting back and hoofing long balls to Fellaini may be your best option on Sunday. Use it.

We didn't need to do that at all vs Spurs and he still managed to tear them a new one. Passing it to his feet in around the box works just as well. Our midfield is more than good enough stand up to your lot's midfield, we have no reason to sit back in fear of Henderson and co.

Use the away excuse all you want, but we've turned up in all of the big games.

RedFish · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
I never used the word electric. I said last season's league winning form, which means points tally. Which means number of wins compared to losses and draws. Its league winning form whichever way you dress it up.

By all means use the Swansea game to give yourself a false sense of security about our 'mediocrity' and the Spurs game to boost your own sense of turning a corner. I'm just stating if you use the same team and tactics against us away from home, as you did against Spurs, you'll be shot down like a sick puppy.

Sitting back and hoofing long balls to Fellaini may be your best option on Sunday. Use it.

Playing as badly as often as we have this season we are still above you in the league, albeit a mere 2 points. When push comes to shove, we are still a class above. It won't be easy for us at Anfield, but we can do a job on you and then focus our aim on bigger fish like City and Arsenal.

Catt · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
I never used the word electric. I said last season's league winning form, which means points tally. Which means number of wins compared to losses and draws. Its league winning form whichever way you dress it up.

By all means use the Swansea game to give yourself a false sense of security about our 'mediocrity' and the Spurs game to boost your own sense of turning a corner. I'm just stating if you use the same team and tactics against us away from home, as you did against Spurs, you'll be shot down like a sick puppy.

Sitting back and hoofing long balls to Fellaini may be your best option on Sunday. Use it.

Why do you think "hoofing" it to Fellaini, wich you keep repeating, might be the best option?

Renegade81 · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
I never used the word electric. I said last season's league winning form, which means points tally. Which means number of wins compared to losses and draws. Its league winning form whichever way you dress it up.

By all means use the Swansea game to give yourself a false sense of security about our 'mediocrity' and the Spurs game to boost your own sense of turning a corner. I'm just stating if you use the same team and tactics against us away from home, as you did against Spurs, you'll be shot down like a sick puppy.

Sitting back and hoofing long balls to Fellaini may be your best option on Sunday. Use it.

DISCLAIMER:
While im actually reluctant to reply as i believe your wumming/attention pimping yourself out, i cant pass up this opportunity.

You can cling on to suarezs form last season and claim the fame of being the 'nearly men tag' all you want, seriously have it lol! But honestly your nowhere near that level this year unfortunately. I must point to the fact u have scored less and conceded more than us as shit as weve been, at worst it will be a draw for us. Van Gaal has had brentons pants down twice this season and im quite sure he will make it 3rd time lucky. Just hope you dont deviate on your stance of the clear 'title winning form' your currently in

as you suggested and vanish after sundays results. 4th clean sheet in a row for De Gea i reckon.

Like already been stated weve turned up to every big game this season so far, so im absolutely confident about this one, sunday is the day Brenton sees Louis big fat juicy balls.

Question234 · Mar 18, 2015

Red Katie said:
Why do you think "hoofing" it to Fellaini, wich you keep repeating, might be the best option?

He thinks we aren't good enough to go there and play football under the amount of pressure Liverpool will put on us. I'd rather sit back and counter than sit back and hoof to felz myself

Midfield is key this game tbh. carrick/herrera and Felz need to play how they played against spurs and we need our wingers to be fast and decisive. Also if we go down we need to keep our heads.

As much as many say spurs playing woeful led to our win, if liverpool or arsenal/city had put on a similar performance we wouldn't be hearing that bs. It would be all praise for how they controlled, dominated and destroyed spurs with a first half of great football.

People feel that they have to question our wins because we haven't played like that all season, and although I think we've been overly criticised at times, we have been garbage at times also. Whereas liverpool/arsenal have been far more consistent since January, their wins don't need to be called into question. They're "in form". They win because they are the "better team"

Sassy Colin · Mar 18, 2015

Red Katie said:
Why do you think "hoofing" it to Fellaini, wich you keep repeating, might be the best option?

Although we did search out Fellani quite a lot against Spuds, I felt we were doing it in a far more intelligent way than previously and that he played his role much better. Rather than hoofing it from deep at every opportunity, we were getting into dangerous positions in the final 3rd and then using him as a target man, so that we actually had bodies on the ground when he received the ball.

Barney · Mar 18, 2015

YzWayne said:
Townsend don't turn shite overnight.

Townsend is utter rubbish.

Barney · Mar 18, 2015

3rdCarter said:
Disagree with this, they have been winning but they're no where near the form they were on last season. They were absolutely blitzing teams senseless, Saurez was world class and Sturiddge was such a threat. Most oppositions didn't stand a chance. Only Jose stood up to them at Anfield once they hit that form and he had to park the premium gold standard megabus.

It will be a struggle but I refuse to acknowledge that they are even close to last seasons form. They aren't.

We're a completely different team to last year's.

johnny boy · Mar 18, 2015

Shark said:
Your form has been impressive, no doubt about that. However it's only United's poor away form that allowed you to sneak back into our grasp in the first place, so I'd count yourself fortunate with that. We'd be home and dry if only we found a few more winning goals from all of those draws to cannon fodder.

It's not 'fortunate' that United's away form has been poor. If United have dropped points it's because the consistent level of performance hasn't been good enough. Your final comment you could apply to lots - Liverpool would have been close to top of the league if we had carried all our current form into the whole season, etc etc

iBoss · Mar 18, 2015

Barney said:
Townsend is utter rubbish.

He really is shite.

2mufc0 · Mar 18, 2015

iBoss said:
He really is shite.

Agree with this, bit concerned about Blind's pace vs Sterling, Townsend is not on his level that's why Blind wasn't even tested, Sterling is on a different level and i can see him giving Blind a hard time with his pace.

Catt · Mar 18, 2015

3rdCarter said:
He thinks we aren't good enough to go there and play football under the amount of pressure Liverpool will put on us. I'd rather sit back and counter than sit back and hoof to felz myself

Midfield is key this game tbh. carrick/herrera and Felz need to play how they played against spurs and we need our wingers to be fast and decisive. Also if we go down we need to keep our heads.

As much as many say spurs playing woeful led to our win, if liverpool or arsenal/city had put on a similar performance we wouldn't be hearing that bs. It would be all praise for how they controlled, dominated and destroyed spurs with a first half of great football.

People feel that they have to question our wins because we haven't played that like all season, and although I think we've been overly criticised at times, we have been garbage at times also. Whereas liverpool/arsenal have been far more consistent since January, their wins don't need to be called into question. They're "in form". They win because they are the "better team"

Of course. He keeps mentioning Fellaini and hoofing repeatidly.

Di Maria's angel · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
I never used the word electric. I said last season's league winning form, which means points tally. Which means number of wins compared to losses and draws. Its league winning form whichever way you dress it up.

By all means use the Swansea game to give yourself a false sense of security about our 'mediocrity' and the Spurs game to boost your own sense of turning a corner. I'm just stating if you use the same team and tactics against us away from home, as you did against Spurs, you'll be shot down like a sick puppy.

Sitting back and hoofing long balls to Fellaini may be your best option on Sunday. Use it.

You've set yourself up to be attacked by posting a comment like this, especially on this forum.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The Swansea game on Monday illustrates everything that is wrong with utilising the 3-5-2. Swansea packed the middle of the park and completely neutralised Henderson, Allen and Coutinho i.e. your "feeders", if I may say. It's a shame they ran out of steam in that second half. If anything, that game should be used as a blueprint as to how to set up when playing Liverpool and/or the 3-5-2.

You say "shot down like a sick puppy", which is ridiculous as you could barely score past the mighty Bolton and Blackburn. Even if we set up to play like we did against Spurs, which we won't, you're set up to not concede; which you've done effectively since the loss at OT. However, with regards to your creativity, you're no better than us (you've scored 24 in 13, we've 21), which is quite funny given you're in form and we're not.

The last part is just... This years Liverpool is hardly to be feared. You're playing well in the sense that, once Brendan Rodgers finally realised how bad your defense truly is, you decided that the way forward was to stop teams from scoring against yourselves. You've scored 43 goals in 29 games, which if I'm not mistake, is worse than what Moyes' United accumulated last season, at this corresponding stage.

Luckily for Liverpool, Brendan Rodgers won't be going in with the same mindset as yours. We won't need to sit back and hoof towards Fellaini, we'll look to play in a similar style to Swansea. Pack the middle of the park and frustrate Liverpool and your crowd. You'll try to play high intensity football, and we'll counter that by playing highly boring football. LvG knows what he's doing.

Dumbstar · Mar 18, 2015

Renegade81 said:
DISCLAIMER:
While im actually reluctant to reply as i believe your wumming/attention pimping yourself out, i cant pass up this opportunity.

I don't know why people keep saying I'm wumming when I've made salient points and predictions all season. None of them you liked but they came true (or are coming true) nevertheless. Here are two that no one agreed with me at the time, not even Pool fans:

1. In the summer I said the loss of Suarez will affect us by about 12 points. Last season we got 84 therefore this season we should be looking at 72. And here we are with Liverpool realistically chasing and probably achieving 72. Remember, this was last summer I said this!!!

2. Around New Year I said Arsenal would finish second in the league and Southampton 7th. This got the biggest laugh with the teams as they were then. What say you all now?

Still wumming?

Question234 · Mar 18, 2015

Barney said:
We're a completely different team to last year's.

Still far from the team you were last season,I'm basing this of performance though. You looked untouchable last season, you don't look like that now.

That was my point.

RobinLFC · Mar 18, 2015

Captain Hindsight said:
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The Swansea game on Monday illustrates everything that is wrong with utilising the 3-5-2. Swansea packed the middle of the park and completely neutralised Henderson, Allen and Coutinho i.e. your "feeders", if I may say. It's a shame they ran out of steam in that second half. If anything, that game should be used as a blueprint as to how to set up when playing Liverpool and/or the 3-5-2.

We play a 3-4-2-1 or a 3-4-3 though.

Di Maria's angel · Mar 18, 2015

RobinLFC said:
We play a 3-4-2-1 or a 3-4-3 though.

It's all, virtually, the same...

Essentially, you're playing the 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 or the 1-0-0-1-0-1-1-0-1-1-1-1-1-0-0-1-1.

Shark · Mar 18, 2015

johnny boy said:
It's not 'fortunate' that United's away form has been poor. If United have dropped points it's because the consistent level of performance hasn't been good enough. Your final comment you could apply to lots - Liverpool would have been close to top of the league if we had carried all our current form into the whole season, etc etc

Most of our performances were good enough to win, if you consider your performance last night vs Swansea was enough to win. My point is, that you should have never been allowed to crawl back into contention with us. Hopefully we can brush you aside again and then look towards the bigger boys.

SalfordRed1960 · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
I never used the word electric. I said last season's league winning form, which means points tally. Which means number of wins compared to losses and draws. Its league winning form whichever way you dress it up.

By all means use the Swansea game to give yourself a false sense of security about our 'mediocrity' and the Spurs game to boost your own sense of turning a corner. I'm just stating if you use the same team and tactics against us away from home, as you did against Spurs, you'll be shot down like a sick puppy.

Sitting back and hoofing long balls to Fellaini may be your best option on Sunday. Use it.

Based on what, you haven't blown anyone away this year.
Interesting to see the different perspectives on performances. United, largely playing as though nobody has played together for years, getting points on the table and apparently we are shit. Liverpool, getting points on the table and that equates to them being top form, title winning run, blah blah.
Reality is we are not the shit that you guys make out and your not as good as you make out.
You talk about us playing the same way we did against Spurs and getting shot down, well if you play like you did against Swansea, even second half, you will be very disappointed by the end of the game.
As usual the team that scores first is likely to go on and win.

SalfordRed1960 · Mar 18, 2015

Dumbstar said:
I don't know why people keep saying I'm wumming when I've made salient points and predictions all season. None of them you liked but they came true (or are coming true) nevertheless. Here are two that no one agreed with me at the time, not even Pool fans:

1. In the summer I said the loss of Suarez will affect us by about 12 points. Last season we got 84 therefore this season we should be looking at 72. And here we are with Liverpool realistically chasing and probably achieving 72. Remember, this was last summer I said this!!!

2. Around New Year I said Arsenal would finish second in the league and Southampton 7th. This got the biggest laugh with the teams as they were then. What say you all now?

Still wumming?

Your predictions haven't come true yet.
Still wouldn't put money on Arsenal coming second.
72 points may be a bit too much for you considering who you have to play.

Question234 · Mar 18, 2015

SalfordRed1960 said:
Reality is we are not the shit that you guys make out and your not as good as you make out.

Bingo, I blame certain pundits/footy journalists for forcing both narratives down everybody's throat since January. I generally hope that Brendan and Liverpool think Sunday will be as easy as their fans do.

They're favourites but they'll be in for a shock thinking it's an easy 3 points.

Barney · Mar 18, 2015

We'll definitely get 72 points.

The only three games I can see us dropping points in are Arsenal, West Brom and Chelsea. I think we'll take four points from those three and win the rest. Hopefully Chelsea have won the league by the time we play them.

johnny boy · Mar 18, 2015

Shark said:
Most of our performances were good enough to win, if you consider your performance last night vs Swansea was enough to win. My point is, that you should have never been allowed to crawl back into contention with us. Hopefully we can brush you aside again and then look towards the bigger boys.

You said we were fortunate - fact is we have been on a good run and gained some ground. If others have picked up less points so be it.
You haven't been good enough to compete with the "bigger boys".

Barney · Mar 18, 2015

Shark said:
However it's only United's poor away form that allowed you to sneak back into our grasp in the first place, so I'd count yourself fortunate with that. We'd be home and dry if only we found a few more winning goals from all of those draws to cannon fodder.

And you wouldn't have been ahead if we had found a few more winning goals in our draws. I don't like this argument.

cyberman · Mar 18, 2015

Lvpool will run out of steam. The elephant in the scouser room is how poor Sturridge has been since he returned. Lvpool scoring worldly after wordly has covered it up but that won't go on forever.
Those worldlies and a fluke v Swansea won't carry over for the next 8 games.
I always tend to back the team creating chances throughout a match rather than a team who can't get behind teams anymore and are forced to shoot from 25 yards to create a chance.

Barney · Mar 18, 2015

Shark said:
We didn't need to do that at all vs Spurs and he still managed to tear them a new one. Passing it to his feet in around the box works just as well. Our midfield is more than good enough stand up to your lot's midfield, we have no reason to sit back in fear of Henderson and co.

You played very well against a demoralised Tottenham. I can't see us gifting you goals like they did though. Sticking Fellaini on Can and hitting long balls to him is absolutely your best chance at getting something out of our defence.

ivaldo · Mar 18, 2015

Fellaini is a must for me, the way Gustede was mishandled by Pool in the FA cup was very encouraging.

Barney · Mar 18, 2015

ivaldo said:
Fellaini is a must for me, the way Gustede was mishandled by Pool in the FA cup was very encouraging.

Why is that very encouraging? None of those defenders will be playing (unless there is an injury during the week).

ivaldo · Mar 18, 2015

Barney said:
You played very well against a demoralised Tottenham. I can't see us gifting you goals like they did though. Sticking Fellaini on Can and hitting long balls to him is absolutely your best chance at getting something out of our defence.

who do you think demoralised them? We are coming off a very convincing win whilst you were woeful against a Swansea side blunted by the departure of Bony.

Shark · Mar 18, 2015

Barney said:
You played very well against a demoralised Tottenham. I can't see us gifting you goals like they did though. Sticking Fellaini on Can and hitting long balls to him is absolutely your best chance at getting something out of our defence.

That's a laughable thing to say, but continue believing that's our only solution. Your defence was got at with ease by Swansea and if we play as we did on Sunday, we'll do the same and hopefully take our chances unlike the latter.

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