I'm exactly the exactly the same. No part of me looks forward to it.
The City derby I enjoy. Arsenal and Chelsea I never dread.
But the two Liverpool fixtures are awful.
FA Premier League
Liverpool 0:0 Manchester United
Anfield
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) look forward to a new life under Ruben Amorim. What system will we be playing? What players will impress? and how will it all go? We also say goodbye to Ruud Van Nistelrooy and review United's 3-0 win at home against Leicester City.
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The City derby I enjoy. Arsenal and Chelsea I never dread.
But the two Liverpool fixtures are awful.Sort yourselves out
Yeah its shit when we lose to these, but imagine skipping it if we win.
Imagine missing this:
Great finishA big test for us to show that we really mean to go for Premiership honours this season. Our return when meeting the top 6 teams last season was not good and this game will show how much we have improved.
I think it will be a center back marking Coutinho. We are already short on midfield and cannot afford to be short on that zone. Which one, time will tell.
Indeed. We are going to face a 3 man midfield. We need people on the middle to help.Great finish
Love it when they bring the keeper up to score.
I'm definitely hoping for a 4-0 drubbing. None of this 'close game' business. I want it quiet as a church at the Kop.I really want us to win, and I think we will. I am glad Mane IS NOT playing, he's a terrific player, against any defense.... however, I would take a point and no injuries. Deffo.Fellaini out, so I think Mourinho will play this side:-
-----------------De Gea----------
-Valencia----Jones--Bailly--------Young
------------Herrera-----Matic-------
---------------Mkhitaryan..........
-Mata----------Lukaku------------Martial
Mata ahead of Rashford? I flipping well hope not.
In actual fact, I would give Lindgaard a start. He is damn frustrating, and has to step up a level, but surely he must be itching to get a start. Pogba has been injured and he should be closer to starting a game. He needs to be more visible, more of a presence. We don't want another Danny Welbeck.Is Mane out or not?I don't expect, but hope to see both Rashford and Martial to start, in whatever system/formation !Assuming Liverpool to go out and attack, and us playing defensive or high line waiting for counter, I think whoever gets the 1st goal is very likely to win, especially given both team's counter are so lethal.
Relatively, us getting the 1st goal will be more decisive than Liverpool getting the 1st one, given our solid defense.
Yeah for around 6 weeks.
I think Liverpool scoring first will be more decisive. Our record in games we concede first is terrible. Liverpool are more used to going behind and coming back in recent times. Also, if we score or not, Liverpool will still play the same way. It is we who have to change our style if we concede.Seriously, if we can't beat these the way we have started our season, then we don't deserve to be in the title race.
We have barely conceded, scored bucket loads of goals and they have a poor defence. In the past when they have beaten us, they have actually had some decent payers and, particularly, good defenders and goalkeeper.I think we'll play with 3 centre halves due to our short numbers in midfield. How about this?
De Gea
Jones Bailly Blind
Valencia Matic Herrera Young
Mata Lukaku Rashford
With Blind as one of the 3 centre backs it gives us more of a chance to control the game. I think the rest of the team picks itself----------------Lukaku------------------
----Rash/Martial------------Mkhi-------
Young----Matic----Herrera----Valencia
-----Jones----Smalling----Bailly--------
While I expect Mkhi for one of Rashford/Martial, I think there is a chance of seeing both Rashford and Martial.
Key factors that this 3-4-3 system with both Rash and Martial could work
1. Expect a high intensity, high pace, and very direct game.
2. Play our "best" players, especially super on form Martial and Rashford. We don't have to play unfit/lack of game time Pogba/Carrick/whoever, if available, for the purpose of fielding three in the midfield in 4-3-3/3-5-2
3. Matic and Herrera will be mainly defending and winning the ball back, without going offensive most of the time, and releasing the ball as quick and direct as possible and staying in position to defend against counter.
4. As soon as Rash/Martial/Lukaku gets the ball, plus one/two wingbacks depending on situation, they can counter directly without the need of Mkhi/Mata playmaking. All of them have pace. Besides, they all have different style. Rashford can attack the space, Martial can dribble past defenders and Lukaku can use his power. Liverpool's weak defense definitely benefits us from this perspective. Their nightmare would be one mistake then one of our attackers will be through to the box.
5. Since we don't have Pogba/Fellaini (maybe a just-fit-Carrick), the game plan is to play to our strengths of both defense and counter. The key is not to hold the ball for too long to reduce the risk of being countered. We can "skip" the playmaking in midfield and counter very, very directly with very lethal Martial/Rash/Lukaku plus one/two wingbacks as soon as we have the ball, while sitting back with both CM, three CB, and one/two wingbacks depending on situation.
6. Rash and Martial can help defending if necessary, acting as the "3rd" midfielder, while still leaving the game plan exactly the same with one of Rash/Martial and Lukaku up front.
Jose surprised us with 3-5-2 against Chelsea, with Rashford and Lingard up front, without Mkhi/Mata. The game plan for the Rashford and Lingard was to play a very direct counter as soon as they got the ball. I can see similarity in this case with both Rash/Martial.Last edited:I would still put this game as a 2-2 draw.I hope it’s not like the last seasons game where we did nothing but defend. Never even looked like trying to win. I can’t remeber being as angry in recent times at a game. I’ve taken losses better than that gutless performance.Not looking forward to this game. Ideal game to start Martial and Rashford alongside Lukaku with the defensive issues that Liverpool have, but I have a feeling we will be playing a very defensive game.Doesn’t matter if they have all of their players injured, the game will still be painful. On beforehand, I take a draw - but you never know what happens. We can lead 1-0 for 95 minutes and let in a goal at the end, then a draw is not so good anymore. Just want to get the game over withNever looked more forward to this match. Part of it being the international break, the other part being it's a massive match. I think we'll do well and win. Worst case is a 0-0 draw. We're scoring goals though so I'm more inclined to think we'll thrash them.Im surprisingly worried about this game. Probably too many variables to be confident about a win.I'd take a 1-1 right now, for sure.Hate this match with a passion. Always have.
When has Rashford ever played on the right?
It'll be Martial or Rashford on the left.Less than 2 days to go. fecking internationals. Looking forward to this. Think we can at least get a draw.Us, Watford, West Brom, Newcastle and Huddersfield to win. Possibly send the Scouse lot back to 11th place and open a ten-point gap.I reckon we'll lose but I certainly hope I'm wrong.Mane is difficult to stop, and we are potentially vulnerable at left back... so I'm glad he's out.
Either Pogba or Fellaini would have been very useful in this game. Pogba for his ability to break the line, Fellaini to give us the option to bypass it.
Stop Coutinho (possibly with a man marker - Herrera?) and they'll struggle to open us up.
I'm surprised at how many people think we won't score... I can see us winning this 2-0, in a very professional performance.
Can see us playing 5-2-3 / 343 with Mkhitaryan and Rashford carrying the ball, Matic holding, plugging gaps, Herrera annoying the life out of them... Lukaku scoring the first, Martial (coming on around 60 minutes) the second.
Would be a decent result away vs a top 4 rival.
I think we'll see:
De Gea
Bailly Smalling Blind
Valencia Herrera Matic Young
Mkhitaryan Lukaku Rashford
Would be a perfectly fine result I think. We've done the business in our home games so far, these are not the games you should need to win.
Same,we struggle at this ground and the GRC that is Liverpool will be up for it.I would settle with a 0-2 win at this point. Not the usual 4 goal thumping we are used to dishing out but I will settle for slapping 2 past Ming and then locking up shop.Anything less than Lukaku rifling in a 30 yarder at the Kop End followed up by him jumping onto, and standing on, the crossbar, ripping his united shirt off to reveal an enormous MUFC tattoo whilst projecting a guttural scream at the Kop will be a disappointment.Feck away off with the happy with a point brigade, how can someone look at this Liverpool side in 2017 and be so skitterish is beyond me.Just popped up on my Facebook feed:
Was a great momentJust popped up on my Facebook feed:
Was a great moment
He was such a big man, that he even voted for Suarez in the player of the season awards (the next season I think)
That's one heck of a gesture for a victim of racial abuse!- Status
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Score Predictions
569,73,176
- Man Utd win
- Liverpool win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 22% Liverpool 1:2 Man Utd
- 15% Liverpool 0:2 Man Utd
- 14% Liverpool 1:1 Man Utd
- 11% Liverpool 1:3 Man Utd
- 7% Liverpool 0:1 Man Utd
- 5% Liverpool 0:3 Man Utd
- 4% Liverpool 2:2 Man Utd
- 4% Liverpool 2:1 Man Utd
- 4% Liverpool 0:4 Man Utd
- 3% Liverpool 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 2:3 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 1:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 3:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 3:4 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 4:3 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 5:1 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Liverpool
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 62% 38%
- Shots
- 19 6
- Shots on Target
- 5 1
- Corners
- 7 3
- Fouls
- 7 13
Referee
Martin Atkinson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Jesse Lingard
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replaced by Marcus Rashford
