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Chelsea 1:0 Manchester United

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    And with regards Falcao: before the game started, people were predicting him to score a hat-trick. Honestly guys, Falcao is no longer capable of conjuring any magic. Accept it.

    Who knows what will happen with Falcao. Age is against him. But the abuse he gets on here is reminiscent of that taken by Fellaini and Young last season.
     
    Smalling is abysmal today. As always actually.

    One of our best players. You're wrong. Looking at your post history it seems you're wrong about literally everything you say as well, which is some feat.
     
    Of course. Theres more to just winning then how attractive your football is.

    For a start I love the fact this kind of football winds up the hell out of every oppo fan pretty much. Just how you guys loved it when we trolled Liverpool last season.

    Better that then be attractive and do what you did to City?

    I have a feeling we will disagree and I'm not having a pop but for me the most important part of football is having pride in the way you went about your work, win or lose and I can honestly say without a hint of hesitation that I would not swap our relative positions today and this season if it meant playing the way chelsea often do. The saddest thing for me is you have players that can play attractive, exciting and entertaining football but nobody seems to care enough to do that, least of all Mourinho.
     
    I thought we lost a bit of impetus with Blackett on for Shaw. He had a horrendous time. He was so uncomfortable with the ball at his feet, horrible passing and just no overlapping runs to give dimaria space or option. I don't mean to scapegoat him as he wasn't the reason we lost, but I don't think he should play left back.
     
    Come on guys, Learn to be gracious in defeat - we lost fair and square.
    I realise that some of you wanted Chelsea to play to our strengths (which is bizarre), but that was never going to happen with Mourinho (JM).
    I stated a while back, that for me Arsenal and Man City games are guaranteed 3 pointers for us. Reason: because they attempt to play football against us - if you try this, you will almost certainly lose.
    To beat us, you need to park the bus and hit us on the break. Southampton demonstrated this and now Chelsea have also done this. This won't change next year.
    JM (unlike Wenger), adapts his playing style according to his opponents and the result: Chelsea are league leaders and rightfully so.
    Well done Chelsea...but next year, I think Man Utd have to be odds on to win the title.

    In fairness we played to our strengths. We played well, especially given that we didnt have Blind or Carrick.

    And with regards Falcao: before the game started, people were predicting him to score a hat-trick. Honestly guys, Falcao is no longer capable of conjuring any magic. Accept it.
    I don't think many of us are angry to have lost. We had nothing riding on the game today did we? Top 4 is as good as secured and we were not going to win the league. It is wrong to suggest Mourinho adapts his tactics as if it is some sort of genius. His tactics are exactly the same. Comes up against a team that tries to build and play, he retreats and out men behind the ball, he would take a draw before going for the win. That's not adapting, that is waving the white flag to any attempt to build a team that tries to outplay its opponents. It's not like other managers couldn't think of this master plan, it's that most top clubs demand more and most top managers have ego to want more.
     
    I bet you didn't watch the game. Herrera had to cover him sometimes because no ono knew where the **** Smalling is.

    I did watch the game, I'm just able to form rational thoughts based on what I see whereas you appear to have the complete opposite. I'll ask ono where Smalling was.

    @One Night Only, where was Smalling?
     
    So we are better than them today but only lack the x factor and your solution is to change everything ?

    The reality is that we lacked the speed that Carrick and Blind bring, we lacked these heavy passes, and obviously Rooney upfront.
    We didn't win that game because Herrera wasn't at his position, Rooney wasn't at his position and Carrick wasn't at his position, it has nothing to do with tactic and everything to do with lack of depth in midfield.
    We still played an amazing game of football, we didn't suddenly turn bad, we were very very good today. Even if we had Carrick I'm not sure if we win.

    LvG is angry, of course he is because we played an amazing game of football and we lost because a foul wasn't called. I'm not angry because this was very predictable.
     
    Who knows what will happen with Falcao. Age is against him. But the abuse he gets on here is reminiscent of that taken by Fellaini and Young last season.

    This, it's really pathetic. How many credited Rooney's performance last weekend?
     
    The main thing is that United are playing good football and looking like getting back into the champions league. We need a little more penetration up front and something extra in midfield and defence. I am sure Van Gaal has noticed that, he is a manager with patience and he will get us really going from next season.
     
    Can't believe over a third of our fans didn't recognise Shaw was our best player today. He was superb, and I gave him a 9/10 which I very rarely do.
    We played good today but we had to take one of the few chances we were going to get. It is disappointing but you have to be blind not to see the positives and improvement in our team. Big game next week and let's get back to winning ways.
     
    I am sure they will be very emberrased for winning the league this season.

    Obvious answer, that wasn't my point, I'm not talking about the result.

    It's efficient. They knew all they needed was one goal and they could sit on it. I would be delighted if United were top and got this result.

    I would be delighted if united were top and got this result, that much should be pretty obvious, what I wouldn't like is united playing that way at home.

    Why? They've won the game. Winning isn't pathetic.

    Well done, please refer to my first reply above.

    Well a win is a win... They usually play like this don't know how but somehow they always win playing badly

    A win is a win yes, but its the attitude and way to that result I think is something very different and something you can have pride in if you go the right way about it.
     
    I only just finished work so I missed it. But it looks like we bossed the game, at Chelsea. 71% possession. It was always going to be hard to get a result there. It's been a while since we've visited Stamford Bridge and done that though.

    Looking forward to the highlights even though we lost.
     
    We were really good today. We overplayed champions on their stadium. Even with fergie in derby games away we never were so dominant on the ball as we are with lvg. It is good thing. Bad thing( besides result) is our young players. Except mcnair who was great all others were awful. Blackett and januzaj really bad game. Shaw as usual. Solid in defence and lack of courage in attack. but those two runs show what he can do and must do more often.
    Oh yes, falcao for me was good.
     
    I am not surprised by the result at all what with all these injuries taking the wind out of our sail. I am slightly surprised how much Chelsea were willing to just defend and not play much. I would have understood if this was an away game for them. I used to be a huge fan of Mourinho but the way he has moulded this Chelsea team is hugely disappointing. Now Chelsea fans will think this is just sour grapes after losing but it's not like I think we would have won if you guys came out a bit more. With our injuries we were at a significant disadvantage anyway but I would never want my team to play like that. Now it's possible he is doing this to ensure a title before improving the play, in which case fair enough. But we shall see.
     
    People are missing the point with the possession stats imo. We had so much possession because they didn't care. They let us have it and figured we didn't have the midfield to do much with it anyway.
     
    A win is a win yes, but its the attitude and way to that result I think is something very different and something you can have pride in if you go the right way about it.

    Any fan is proud when his team wins, and so are you. Only reason not to be is if eventually it was an utterly stolen win by shameful refereeing, etc, and even when such is the case you'll rarely see a fan own up to it.

    When other teams win though? Nah, if it's not pretty slick passing football full of pace it's not pride worthy.
     
    I thought we lost a bit of impetus with Blackett on for Shaw. He had a horrendous time. He was so uncomfortable with the ball at his feet, horrible passing and just no overlapping runs to give dimaria space or option. I don't mean to scapegoat him as he wasn't the reason we lost, but I don't think he should play left back.
    I said I don't rate Blackett, Shaw was great, so him and Blind are giving us good options for LB. McNair did really well.
     
    Any fan is proud when his team wins, and so are you. Only reason not to be is if eventually it was an utterly stolen win by shameful refereeing, etc, and even when such is the case you'll rarely see a fan own up to it.

    When other teams win though? Nah, if it's not pretty slick passing football full of pace it's not pride worthy.

    Im glad you know me well enough to make such an insightful and perfectly well thought out post. Oh wait, whats that? You don't actually know me at all? The people who do actually know me (you know the ones who have met me in real life and who talk to me) are qualified to comment on my opinions and whether or not I back up my words with my actions, you are not.
     
    People are missing the point with the possession stats imo. We had so much possession because they didn't care. They let us have it and figured we didn't have the midfield to do much with it anyway.

    You are right.
     
    Im glad you know me well enough to make such an insightful and perfectly well thought out post. Oh wait, whats that? You don't actually know me at all? The people who do actually know me (you know the ones who have met me in real life and who talk to me) are qualified to comment on my opinions and whether or not I back up my words with my actions, you are not.

    Well, am sorry for wrongly assuming that you as a fan are proud when your team wins. My mistake.

    It's just that usually football fans are a lot more demanding in relation to opposition backing their wins with entertaining and slick football than they are in relation to their own team. That lead me to my post.
     
    Any fan is proud when his team wins, and so are you. Only reason not to be is if eventually it was an utterly stolen win by shameful refereeing, etc, and even when such is the case you'll rarely see a fan own up to it.

    When other teams win though? Nah, if it's not pretty slick passing football full of pace it's not pride worthy.
    That is incorrect. If you had went back a few months when van gaal was winning with dull football the fans were not proud. Remember the 3-0 Liverpool win where United ackowlegde that liverpool were the better team?

    This just shows we had transformed from a miserable team to a team where the champions has to park the bus against us. We are on the way up whereas Chelsea is just Chelsea, where you won't get too excited about their next season when you witnessed this type of football.
     
    That is incorrect. If you had went back a few months when van gaal was winning with dull football the fans were not proud. Remember the 3-0 Liverpool win where United ackowlegde that liverpool were the better team?

    This just shows we had transformed from a miserable team to a team where the champions has to park the bus against us. We are on the way up whereas Chelsea is just Chelsea, where you won't get too excited about their next season when you witnessed this type of football.

    No fan of a top team will be happy with scrapped wins for too long, particularly when they represent insecurity and the feeling sooner or later we might run out of luck and start paying for it with lost points.

    But people go over the top sometimes, that's my opinion. Didn't United win a league title not too long ago with loads of pragmatic 1-0s that were almost unbearable to watch for neutrals? Would you prefer more exciting football then? I'm sure you would. Weren't you proud of fairly winning a league title? I assumed you were.

    The general feeling opposition fans have of Mourinho's two years at Porto was that we played exciting football in the first season and boring in the second. Porto fans barely remember the difference in happiness or pride that stemmed from it, because we were equally effective. Games like against Coruña were we won 1-0 away with a penalty can be exciting to watch when your team is carrying an aura of invincibility and shuts down the opposition perfectly. You end up appreciating different aspects of the game, and if titles are pouring in you are ecstatic.
     
    Well, am sorry for wrongly assuming that you as a fan are proud when your team wins. My mistake.

    It's just that usually football fans are a lot more demanding in relation to opposition backing their wins with entertaining and slick football than they are in relation to their own team. That lead me to my post.

    Im sorry its just I get that a lot, I genuinely value some things more than results and feel that the way I go about the things I do in my life backs up that assertion. I genuinely feel that life isn't about where you end up its how you get there that counts, if united are beaten by a team playing football the way I feel it should be played then I have no issues with that and if united win a game playing in a similar fashion to the way chelsea played today then I just can feel the same way about the result. You can choose to believe me or not, thats up to you but I'm being genuine in what I say.
     
    I don't know if I'd enjoy being a Chelsea fan or not. I mean you're winning trophies regularly, but the football is a boring, tumescent mess. I don't know how I'd feel knowing I had to put up with that for another decade even if my team was winning.
     
    Looking at last season at Stamford and comparing to this one well actually we improved by real huge margins since. We now can keep the ball as much as we can vs the current champions forcing them to park their usual bus.
    Now we need to start fresh again the next three points vs Everton can restore our improvement and our top four place that's what we always wished to achieve this season. And next season under LVG with couple of good addition we will be competing surely.
     
    Really? was that not what happened today then? Mourinho planned to sit back park the bus and nick a goal on the counter and it worked. It hurts because we were the better team and I hate that Chelsea manage to beat us like that. Also were the 3 mentioned players not poor? Or is a player I criticised earlier one of your favourites.....sorry.
    You chose 2 players who came on for about ten minutes. That's what I found shocking. Apologies, heat of the moment
     
    I knew he didn't have it, but I was hoping for a Billy Chapel out from Radamel Falcao. A shame.
     
    Just see that United have been giving an average rating of 5.7. It's ridiculous how skewed our fans judgement gets based on the result as opposed to our actual performance.(my average was 6.3, I always try to give subs 6 as not to affect the average score too much).
    This annoy anyone else?
     
    Of course. Theres more to just winning then how attractive your football is.

    For a start I love the fact this kind of football winds up the hell out of every oppo fan pretty much. Just how you guys loved it when we trolled Liverpool last season.

    Better that then be attractive and do what you did to City?
    I can imagine you enjoying your points and winning the title. But the problem is that you get every team against you, you have no respect because of your players diving and acting like cnuts to the referee etc. If you somehow manage to win the Champions League in the future with the same manager and playstyle, you will have everyone against you and no one will root for you. I could never support such a classless team.
     
    Because they didn't allow it. We were hopeless on the final third and even when we managed to create something it was always blocked instantly from their defenders. It was a great tactical schema prepared and realized very good from Mourinho and Chelsea.

    No shame on that. Better managers than Van Gaal (well, and him before) had been victims of Mourinho.

    They took their chances and we didn't. Rooney and Falcao both had clear chances. They go in, different story. Apart from the Hazard goal, they created very little. These tactics have clearly been found out in the CL and Mourinho will have to change his approach in that competition.
     
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Possession
30% 70%
Shots
7 15
Shots on Target
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3 7
Fouls
13 11

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