yeah I got told the same thing when I said early in the season we would not finish in the top 4. Still looking a better chance of being right on that one, then not.
Europa League Semi-final 1st Leg
Celta Vigo 0:1 Manchester United
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- Thu, 4 May 2017 @ 8:05pm BST
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yeah I got told the same thing when I said early in the season we would not finish in the top 4. Still looking a better chance of being right on that one, then not.
Our lads are resting since 2pm last Sunday.
It's not an issue nor should being knackered be used as an excuse heading into it.
Great to see Pogba & Mata back, Bailly too.So two CB's and two of our three most-creative players this season all returning for this game. Good cause for optimism.
De Gea
Valencia Bailly Jones Blind
Fellaini Herrera Pogba
Mata Rashford MkhitaryanWe suddenly look a heck of a lot stronger if Mata, Jones, Smalling and Pogba can immediately restart at top form. That's a big if though for at least the first three.
It's a big decision of where you throw Smalling and Jones in. It's not like the semis, Arsenal/Tottenham away are exactly easy re-introductions!Wonder if he's going to stick with Romero as the Europa Cup Keeper?Don't think Jones, Smalling nor Mata will start. Mata off the bench I'd bet though.
Bailly and Blind at CB. Use Jones Smalling for the weekend.Celta play high tempo and like possession, don't they. That should suit us. If Pogba and Herrera both start then we'll be more than capable of playing around their pressure, and Rashford will find the sort of space up front which he needs to be dangerous.Have to be more positive now with a few players back. Bailly can go full whack into this game knowing that he will be rested for the Arsenal game. Fellaini and Pogba come back into midfield, with Mkhitaryan on one flank to freshen up that side. Valencia, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, and Rashford are just going to have to keep playing.
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Herrera Fellaini Pogba
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Romero; Smalling/Jones, Young; Carrick, Mata, Lingard; Rooney
Lingard may start, but Martial's last 2-3 performances (and being selected ahead of Lingard) make me think Jose will trust him here. I don't think Mata will start a game like this yet - he may come off the bench and then start at Arsenal. Well, everyone on the bench here will start against Arsenal if we come away from this tie with a result that gives us a higher chance of progressing than Celta.
Even if it's just a mental thing, knowing that we can field those 18 players and it looks so much stronger on paper than our last few fixtures, will hopefully give us the confidence to at least come away with a score draw.Last edited:I would not rely on Smalling or Jones. These guys will let us down at the last moment.
And lets not forget that Smalling and Jones have not played in several months. You can't expect them to start playing in top form. They'll need at least 3-4 games before they hit their stride and by then, I expect them to be re-injured.
This, I agree with.
Hmmm yeah, that's the same thing
Better on Sunday than tomorrow, that's for sure.
Yep. At least the "Injury brothers" could feasibly both start away at Arsenal to give Bailly a much needed rest.
I'd trust Jose to put a decent shift in whoever we field.
He better do, as I'm in the wrong end on Sunday, wellying out £65 for the privilege (face value!)
Can't be worse than sat watching Schweingsteiger improbably cast as chief attacking mid/closer down last year, and watching Darmain trying to deal with Sanchez. 3-0 down after about 20mins was it?!Fellaini will start this....
do we need him against what I think are a fast, passing side? I could see him struggling in possession
in saying that his best game in a United shirt - away at Juanfield under Van Gaal he was great at beating their high press in providing an outlet at number 10The inspiration of Celta Vigo's coach? None other than Marco Bielsa.
We need to make sure we're still in this tie. We don't want it to be like the other semi finals played over the last couple of days where the semi-finalists have effectively sealed their place in the finals. That means we need to score at least one and limit them to no more than 2 tomorrow.
Mourinho has to be careful not to go uber defensive though. I feel a 0-0 won't be enough as I can easily see a score draw occurring at OT and/or them knocking us out on away goals.this team will hurt them
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Valencia--------------Bailly------------------Jones----------------------Blind
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Mata------------------------------Mkhiki-------------------------------Martial
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think it will be this team though
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Valencia--------------Bailly------------------Jones----------------------Blind
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Mkhiki------------------------------Fellaini-------------------------------Martial
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Blind would get done by their pacy wingers and Mata/Jones aren't likely fit enough to start.The inspiration of Celta Vigo's coach? None other than Marco Bielsa.
We need to make sure we're still in this tie. We don't want it to be like the other semi finals played over the last couple of days where the semi-finalists have effectively sealed their place in the finals. That means we need to score at least one and limit them to no more than 2 tomorrow.
Mourinho has to be careful not to go uber defensive though. I feel a 0-0 won't be enough as I can easily see a score draw occurring at OT and/or them knocking us out on away goals.
We are playing Celta Vigo you know, they really aren't the big bad wolf you are making out, so talk of 'staying in the tie', and 'limit then to two' is a little over the top, I'm not saying it'll be all plain sailing, but we really should be getting through this fairly comfortably.In Europa we have been really compact, tough, hard to break through and that's the game from us I expect tomorrow. Don't let them have their game, there will certainly be pressure from them from the go so we need to live through that and take the game to them.
Of course we have big trouble scoring goals but a nice 0:1 or 0:2 would do.
They're nothing special but then neither are we. Throw in our injury list and unfit players, and I really don't think it's unreasonable or over the top to say what I've said. Especially considering we just scraped past Anderlecht and our home form, while good in Europe, has been dodgy at best.
Mourinho will have us wary against a good team on their own patch. It was the same away to teams with Fergie. In fact, the only team I remember blowing away away from home was under the great Moyesey against Neverkusen.
Schalke in 2011 CL Semi too.
I remember that game.
It was so weird because it was the ONLY game that he started Kagawa at number 10 in and we looked like a completely fantastic team. He never tried it again, and instead stuck with Rooney-RVP for the rest of the season.
Every one keeps saying this yet it never happens
. Its like some redcafe myth.Hopefully Uefa have told the referee they want a Ajax - United final. We need some of that Madrid/Barca decision making
He will surely rest Baily. He talked about how many games Baily has played. He will be foolish not to rest Baily, we don't know how long Jones and Smalling will be available for. I think one of Jones or Smalling will start along side Blind. That's the best scenario.
Starting Smalling and Jones same time will be a disaster, they can tangle into each other and be out again.Every one keeps saying this yet it never happens. Its like some redcafe myth.
It's an english thing. Pace is everything.Reading a Celta Vigo forum
Did you happen to see the latest results of United? from mid-November nothing but lost 2 games
one against the best Chelsea in recent years and with one less throughout the 2nd part. League have only lost 3 games all year. And only they lost Europa League in the group stage.
You are too underestimating this historic team putting at or below Sevilla. United now takes this to Sevilla in a playoff and eliminated as Leicester did practically doing nothing.
It is the United and Mourinho that if you have not played anything in the playoffs for him and against inferior to them rivals, but Mourinho is a strategist in these conflicts and how to play for United and Mou is precisely that Celta is fatal. We will need to sweat blood to reach the final and some will lose 4 kilos in qualifying as Alonso in Malaysia xd
points: they will be focused on their league and few rotations will. In addition they come without Ibra, Mata and Rojo.
Minuses: our defense. Or they are concentrated Jonny, Cabral, and company and virgin or Rasford, Mkitarian, Ander Herrera and company we can make a pretty good - looking fault appears to us. If it did Genk or Krasnodar with those confusions of young fish I do not want to imagine these.
Hopefully move on but I see 30% -70% in favor of United.
http://foro.delcelta.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25703
I hope he doesn't rest Bailly, which has been excellent again, after the drop of form following his presence in the AFCON. If the player's fit, then use him in the most important game, not save them for the Arsenal game or even Celta at home, where is presence might be less missed than away.feck this guys, we will do them over two legs.
“Son muy superables. Da lastima verlos jugar. Cero miedo” / They're beatable. It's dreadful to watch them play. No fear at all.
“Es partido para que Iago sea el delantero. — Con el autobús que nos va a plantar Mourinho? Ni de coña. Guidetti en punta.” / It's a game for Aspas to play as striker. — With the bus Mourinho's going to park here? Not even kidding. Guidetti as striker.
“Los equipos que ponen autobus se nos dan historicamente mal, eso sumado a que tienen al maestro del autobus y de la preparacion de eliminatorias a doble partido” / Teams that park the bus have been historically bad for us, besides they have the master on bus parking and preparation of two game ties.
“Somos el equipo que más goles recibe a balón parado en la liga.” / We're the team with the worst record on corners and freekicks. [A pity United isn't that good at that, though]
“Meter a Fontás ante Rashford o Mkitaryan es suicidarse." / To put Fontás [Celta's expected left center-back] against Rashford or Mkhitaryan it's like suicide.
But, in general, they seem surprisingly pretty confident. Some talk about Radoja (their #6) man-marking Mkhitaryan (only possible if we play 4-2-3-1, I would add).Last edited:Hala a hug!We will win in both legs
What's the incentive in paying him and he injures himself due to muscle fatigue? Remember Rojo?Maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but for me the big doubt is Martial/Lingard. Freshness and compactness would mean Lingard, but Martial's been better lately and could solve the game.
Rojo cruciate ligament injury was due to muscle fatigue? Anyway, Bailly had four days rest and, as Mourinho said, he's a special character. The incentive is that he's our best player right now, not only the best center-back, and could help us in a potentially very difficult and decisive game.Last edited:
We are not better than Sevilla? I hope this is the mindset of their players as well.With Pogba, Mata, Bailly, Smalling and Jones all back, I'm suddenly more optimistic.Every one keeps saying this yet it never happens. Its like some redcafe myth.
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Score Predictions
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- Man Utd win
- Celta Vigo win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 28% Celta Vigo 1:1 Man Utd
- 13% Celta Vigo 1:2 Man Utd
- 11% Celta Vigo 0:2 Man Utd
- 10% Celta Vigo 0:1 Man Utd
- 8% Celta Vigo 2:1 Man Utd
- 7% Celta Vigo 2:0 Man Utd
- 5% Celta Vigo 0:0 Man Utd
- 5% Celta Vigo 1:0 Man Utd
- 3% Celta Vigo 0:3 Man Utd
- 2% Celta Vigo 3:1 Man Utd
- 2% Celta Vigo 1:3 Man Utd
- 2% Celta Vigo 2:2 Man Utd
- 1% Celta Vigo 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Celta Vigo 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Celta Vigo 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Celta Vigo 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Celta Vigo 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% Celta Vigo 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Celta Vigo 5:1 Man Utd
- 0% Celta Vigo 5:5 Man Utd
- 0% Celta Vigo 4:1 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Celta Vigo
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 58% 42%
- Shots
- 9 10
- Shots on Target
- 2 5
- Corners
- 4 4
- Fouls
- 10 13
Referee
Sergey Karasev
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replaced by Chris Smalling
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