FA Cup 4th Round

Cambridge United 0:0 Manchester United

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Fri, 23 January 2015 @ 7:55pm GMT
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    I think the wishes of most 1) about 4 at the back and 2) Januzaj, Herrera, Wilson, Rafael starting should come true for this game. Formation we can be less sure of but think those 4 will definitely get start.
    Rooney will start too so if it is traditional 4-4-2, Falcao will be the one missing out. For him to be there, we need diamond, which will be nice. A league two mid-table team should not be one we should worry about running us over because of diamond.
     
    I'd like to see Falcao and Wilson play. 442. Sorted.
     
    I would like to see Pearson and Pereira at least on the bench. Also would love to see Januzaj behind the strikers, cause I think he's better than than on the wing. Any chance Nick Powerll will play, can he even play for us in the FA Cup?

    I would go for:

    Valdes / DeGea​
    Rafael / Valencia Jones McNair Shaw
    Blind​
    Herrera Juan Mata
    Januzaj​
    Falcao Wilson​

    Januzaj or Mata could swap places
     
    Telcontar said:
    I would like to see Pearson and Pereira at least on the bench. Also would love to see Januzaj behind the strikers, cause I think he's better than than on the wing. Any chance Nick Powerll will play, can he even play for us in the FA Cup?

    I would go for:

    Valdes / DeGea​
    Rafael / Valencia Jones McNair Shaw
    Blind​
    Herrera Juan Mata
    Januzaj​
    Falcao Wilson​

    Januzaj or Mata could swap places
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    I looked and was wondering who this Juan was? I then realised you have put his full name. I'm an idiot.:lol:
     
    Some players need match fitness, and this can be the perfect moment to give it to them. Unfortunately, LVG is not the type of coach who likes to rotate much even when we have almost a full team now. And he’s stubborn enough to put again his philosophical 3-5-2, so be sure that we’ll not see much change in our team sheet, our tactics and even our style.

    I’d like to see a flying 4-2-3-1 with wingers attacking directly our opponents but we won’t.

    Does anyone think that we can be out of this game? Can Cambridge beat us? I mean we were terrible against mighty Yeovil, can this be repeated and for the worst this time?
     
    Telcontar said:
    I would like to see Pearson and Pereira at least on the bench. Also would love to see Januzaj behind the strikers, cause I think he's better than than on the wing. Any chance Nick Powerll will play, can he even play for us in the FA Cup?

    I would go for:

    Valdes / DeGea​
    Rafael / Valencia Jones McNair Shaw
    Blind​
    Herrera Juan Mata
    Januzaj​
    Falcao Wilson​

    Januzaj or Mata could swap places
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    Pearson is on loan...
     
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    433 - Blind libero
    De Gea
    McNair Jones Blind Rojo
    Carrick --- Fellaini
    Rooney
    Di Maria ---- Januzai
    Falcao
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    ricky-romeo said:
    ------------------------valdes------------------------
    rafael---------smalling-------evans-----------shaw
    -------------------------blind---------------------
    --------------fellaini-----------herrera---------
    ------------------------januzaj-------------------
    --------------wilson------------falcao-----------
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    Be good to see this team. Wouldnt mind Pereira being given some game time. But would be surprised if he even goes as young as the team above, and no RVP, Rooney, Carrick.

    May be a bit risky with our lost trophy in the offing - although shouldnt be.
     
    IwatUwat said:
    Be good to see this team. Wouldnt mind Pereira being given some game time. But would be surprised if he even goes as young as the team above, and no RVP, Rooney, Carrick.

    May be a bit risky with our lost trophy in the offing - although shouldnt be.
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    I think Rooney and Carrick need a break, they will probably be on the bench and we don't know how RVP is yet. It depends what condition the Cambridge pitch is in. Don't want RVP getting injured again in this game. Other senior players need game time, so this is the ideal game.
     
    some players do need games. rafa, shaw, fellaini, adnan, herrera and wilson obviously. valdes included.

    want to see falcao again of course, and hope he'll be able to get a goal.

    would not mind to see the likes of rooney and carrick travelling too. might need to use them(hopefully not though).
     
    Friday night? 7:55 kick off? Was whoever who decides fixture dates and times pissed when he came up with this?
     
    If Januzaj doesn't start this game then something is seriously wrong with his relationship with LVG
     
    Saturday morning is a weird but good one for us Aussies. Will be heading to Scruffy's for anyone else keen in Sydney, I'm sure they will serve us something for brekky.
     
    Browniee said:
    If Januzaj doesn't start this game then something is seriously wrong with his relationship with LVG
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    why??? we are playing 1 game per week. we shouldnt be rotating. We should be playing our strongest 11 week in week out. if that means some players dont get a game then they need to take there chances when they get on and graft like crazyin training.

    I am sick of hearing how x,y, and z should play because its cambridge. So what that its crambridge. we should go full strength and aim to batter them.

    infact, if he does anything other than pick our best available team then it blows his "match rythm" line.

    The only one out of the starting 11 that should maybe left at home is Wayen Rooney, he looked dead on his feet in the last ten at QPR. That said he's had a good week and he more than anybody needs "match rythem"
     
    Really torn with how we should approach this, but it is fecking Cambridge United in the end... If we can't give a few squad players or younger players a chance then there is definitely something wrong. That said, I still expect a strong starting 11 and all LvG needs to do is not play three at the back while picking players in positions that they are comfortable in.

    Rafael and van Persie should probably make the bench if fit and be introduced in the second half if it's all going smoothly (pitch dependent in RvP's case as it wouldn't be worth the risk if it's bad, while we only have Leicester at Old Trafford next so he can be benched for that and come on later anyway).

    I think Valdes should get a game purely because he hasn't played in ages - there will not be a better time to give him a game this season and it makes it a bit less of a worry if he had to be thrown into a big game if de Gea got an injury (as I assume Valdes will be picked ahead of Lindegaard no matter).

    I think Falcao and Wilson should definitely start up front. Wilson finally bagged a goal, while Falcao is looking sharp and the goals will come (he was very unlucky to not get a couple against QPR at least). I would not be opposed to Carrick getting a rest with Blind playing at the bottom of a diamond, then pick three from Fellaini, Herrera, Di Maria, Januzaj to fill out the midfield. Rojo and Shaw need to play, with Smalling or Jones as the other CB and either one of them at Right Back or Valencia.

    Rooney should be rested, but I think LvG will probably still pick him as he deems the captain's role important and won't leave out all of Rooney, Carrick, Fletcher, and van Persie for any game, even this one. The issue with this is that it probably means Rooney plays in midfield, but he should be a striker or at the top of the diamond, which would then mean it's likely Januzaj who doesn't play. I also wouldn't mind a good old 4231 with some midfielders missing out, but I somehow doubt that will happen.

    What I want:

    Valdes
    Valencia Smalling Rojo Shaw
    Blind
    Herrera Di Maria
    Januzaj
    Wilson Falcao​

    What I think:

    Valdes
    Valencia Jones Rojo Shaw
    Blind
    Fellaini Di Maria
    Rooney
    Wilson Falcao​
     
    Valdes
    Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
    Blind
    Pereira Herrera
    Di Maria
    Wilson Falcao
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    Carrick and Rooney both on the bench to rescue us if necessary. Januzaj to play a half - in place of Di Maria if we're winning comfortably by then, or in place of Pereira if we're not.
     
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    Steven Seagull said:
    Full team. No remorse. No magic of the cup bollocks, just get 5 early goals, smash all the dreams and send the children of Cambridge crying back to the slums they came from
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    this!!!!! and if we succeed in battering em early doors then give the likes of januzaj the second half. people go on like januzaj hasnt been given a chance, he has its just that he's been awful virtually every time he has been on the field. Part of being a "proper United player" isnt strength of charachter as much as talent. Some fans as well as players need reminding of that
     
    jojose said:
    this!!!!! and if we succeed in battering em early doors then give the likes of januzaj the second half. people go on like januzaj hasnt been given a chance, he has its just that he's been awful virtually every time he has been on the field. Part of being a "proper United player" isnt strength of charachter as much as talent. Some fans as well as players need reminding of that
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    So let's sack fecking everyone in the team bar DDG because all have been more terrible than good this season.The strength of character thing is nonsense.How much do you know the player?

    Full strength team against a League Two team.I don't get how people don't feel embarrassing about that idea.Oh yeah, but that make sense somehow because as long as we play 3-5-2, we will struggle against any team that know how to defend and press.
     
    I've given up keeping track of our injuries or who plays in defense or wingback now so I basically just named a team that I'd play if I was playing Fifa with injuries off.
     
    khoazany said:
    So let's sack fecking everyone in the team bar DDG because all have been more terrible than good this season.The strength of character thing is nonsense.How much do you know the player?

    Full strength team against a League Two team.I don't get how people don't feel embarrassing about that idea.Oh yeah, but that make sense somehow because as long as we play 3-5-2, we will struggle against any team that know how to defend and press.
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    How is it? If he hasnt got the strength of charachter to realise that he needs to improve to get in the team, then to be able to go about improving then i dont want him here and certainly dont want players like that being given an opportunity in the side regardless of opposition.

    You mention De Gea. He came as a very talented goal keeper. The difference with him and Januzaj from what i can see is that De Gea identified his weaknesses worked at them and improved greatly. I dont really see Januzaj doing that. It would appear he wants to take the easy option of going out on loan. Once that decision is made then very few return from loan.

    Your right i dont know either player, nor do you! We can only judge what we see on the field and what i have seen of januzaj he doesnt deserve a place in the team.

    Why should be be embarrassed about going full strnegth against anybody??? We are playing one game per week. We will never develop paterns of play, match rythem, understanind and partnerships if we dont get consistancey in team selections. We dont have enough fixtures to be rotating. Part of the reason many of our players still arent sharp is because they arent playing enough.

    The strongest team should be playing. The disjointed shower of shite that came out of the Yoevil match was down to "giving players games".

    Its about time they started earning games, never mind being "given" games!
     
    jojose said:
    How is it? If he hasnt got the strength of charachter to realise that he needs to improve to get in the team, then to be able to go about improving then i dont want him here and certainly dont want players like that being given an opportunity in the side regardless of opposition.

    You mention De Gea. He came as a very talented goal keeper. The difference with him and Januzaj from what i can see is that De Gea identified his weaknesses worked at them and improved greatly. I dont really see Januzaj doing that. It would appear he wants to take the easy option of going out on loan. Once that decision is made then very few return from loan.

    Your right i dont know either player, nor do you! We can only judge what we see on the field and what i have seen of januzaj he doesnt deserve a place in the team.
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    How many games has Januzaj played?Players won't be able to develop without playing games no matter how hardworking they are in training.Plus how do you Januzaj is not working hard everyday to improve his weaknesses?Such a ridiculous assumption.I never heard any problem about Januzaj in training e.g laziness etc.I don't know how you came up with the assumption that he want to go on loan either.

    LVG's handling of Januzaj this season has been a mess and people just don't want to admit it.

    The disjointed shower of shit against Yeovil has been a strongest evidence that the formation isn't working.There are so many occasions this season to show the players haven't got a clue how to play this formation so blame everything on them is extremely harsh.I would bet that if we continue to play 3-5-2 vs Cambridge we will struggle no matter how strong of the XI we put out.
     
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    khoazany said:
    How many games has Januzaj played?Players won't be able to develop without playing games no matter how hardworking they are in training.Plus how do you Januzaj is not working hard everyday to improve his weaknesses?Such a ridiculous assumption.I never heard any problem about Januzaj in training e.g laziness etc.I don't know how you came up with the assumption that he want to go on loan either.

    LVG's handling of Januzaj this season has been a mess and people just don't want to admit it.

    The disjointed shower of shit against Yeovil has been a strongest evidence that the formation isn't working.There are so many occasions this season to show the players haven't got a clue how to play this formation so blame everything on them is extremely harsh.I would bet that if we continue to play 3-5-2 vs Cambridge we will struggle no matter how strong of the XI we put out.
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    I am not arguing for against the 3-5-2.

    My problem is with people saying that we should give x, y and z a game. My point is that Manchester United is not an U8's sunday team where we are obliged to share minutes around our squad. We are one of the biggest professional football clubs in the world and i am not into "giving players games".

    Van Gaal has stood by his word and given everybody equal opportunity. Januzaj started both the Chelsea and City game. He also started the West Brom game and made various other appearances. A couple of decent passes and runs against chelsea aside he's been very very poor.

    Maybe he is trying to improve in training but obviousley our manager who has been a bout a bit and see's him day in day out doesnt think he warrants selection over other players in the squad.

    He's suggested that he could play upfront. However, nothing has suggested that he can hold the ball up, that he's quick enough to run inbehind, thats he's good in the air or that he can finish. Therefore Falcao, Rooney, RVP, Wilson, Di Maria have all had the nod over him in that position.

    He also has never shown that he has the abaility of a mata, rooney or even herrera to move the ball quick and pick a pass in the No.10 and therefore has been unable to dislodge them from that position.

    He had a runout against sunderland in the middle and couldnt do it.

    He's had spells as a wing back but Young and Valencia have atapted better.

    Thats why he hasnt been playing and why he will continue not to play untill he proves to be a better option.

    My point is we dont owe anybody a game. Nobody should be "given a game" regardless if its Tyler Blackett, Adnan Januzaj or Radamel Falcao if we have better options.
     
    jojose said:
    I am not arguing for against the 3-5-2.

    My problem is with people saying that we should give x, y and z a game. My point is that Manchester United is not an U8's sunday team where we are obliged to share minutes around our squad. We are one of the biggest professional football clubs in the world and i am not into "giving players games".

    Van Gaal has stood by his word and given everybody equal opportunity. Januzaj started both the Chelsea and City game. He also started the West Brom game and made various other appearances. A couple of decent passes and runs against chelsea aside he's been very very poor.

    Maybe he is trying to improve in training but obviousley our manager who has been a bout a bit and see's him day in day out doesnt think he warrants selection over other players in the squad.

    He's suggested that he could play upfront. However, nothing has suggested that he can hold the ball up, that he's quick enough to run inbehind, thats he's good in the air or that he can finish. Therefore Falcao, Rooney, RVP, Wilson, Di Maria have all had the nod over him in that position.

    He also has never shown that he has the abaility of a mata, rooney or even herrera to move the ball quick and pick a pass in the No.10 and therefore has been unable to dislodge them from that position.

    He had a runout against sunderland in the middle and couldnt do it.

    He's had spells as a wing back but Young and Valencia have atapted better.

    Thats why he hasnt been playing and why he will continue not to play untill he proves to be a better option.

    My point is we dont owe anybody a game. Nobody should be "given a game" regardless if its Tyler Blackett, Adnan Januzaj or Radamel Falcao if we have better options.
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    Well, it's obvious for me that he just doesn't fit with the system.He's at home at a wing playmaker with the freedom to drift inside whereby this season even when he played winger he had to mostly stick by the byline which I believe is what instructed by LVG.We have seen how poor Di Maria was when he had to play out of position so criticise Januzaj for the same thing is unfair for him.Not everyone is Ashley Young, Januzaj's attributes don't fit for him to be a wing back nor he's really suited to be a striker (played striker at U21s level before his breakthrough season where he shown a lot of his abilities but couldn't score goal).

    Back to Cambridge United, I believe this is the chance for LVG to explore other options/formations and see what they can do (not including Fletcher who is done at this club).I don't believe the XI and formation recently is the optimal one and the results plus performances suggest that.We also need to keep players happy and manage the development of younger players although I agree that shouldn't be the priority over getting the result just that I think we need to have some balance as long as we still get the result we want.
     
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    khoazany said:
    Well, it's obvious for me that he just doesn't fit with the system.He's at home at a wing playmaker with the freedom to drift inside whereby this season even when he played winger he had to mostly stick by the byline which I believe is what instructed by LVG.We have seen how poor Di Maria was when he had to play out of position so criticise Januzaj for the same thing is unfair for him.Not everyone is Ashley Young, Januzaj's attributes don't fit for him to be a wing back nor he's really suited to be a striker (played striker at U21s level before his breakthrough season where he shown a lot of his abilities but couldn't score goal).

    Back to Cambridge United, I believe this is the chance for LVG to explore other options/formations and see what they can do (not including Fletcher who is done at this club).I don't believe the XI and formation recently is the optimal one and the results plus performances suggest that.We also need to keep players happy and manage the development of younger players although I agree that shouldn't be the priority over getting the result just that I think we need to have some balance as long as we still get the result we want.
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    I agree with alot of what you have said, However, if he does decide to go 4 across the back, a narrow 3 in midfield, two wingers and a striker i think we'll see Di Maria and Wilson as the wide men, Falcao up top and then Mata, Herrera, Fellaini or Rooney as the advanced midfielder / No. 10.
     
    jojose said:
    why??? we are playing 1 game per week. we shouldnt be rotating. We should be playing our strongest 11 week in week out. if that means some players dont get a game then they need to take there chances when they get on and graft like crazyin training.

    I am sick of hearing how x,y, and z should play because its cambridge. So what that its crambridge. we should go full strength and aim to batter them.

    infact, if he does anything other than pick our best available team then it blows his "match rythm" line.

    The only one out of the starting 11 that should maybe left at home is Wayen Rooney, he looked dead on his feet in the last ten at QPR. That said he's had a good week and he more than anybody needs "match rythem"
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    Sorry but Adnan needs games, look at sterling he plays all the time and has grown. Adnan looked excellent last year albeit you could see he needed work. This season he hasn't kicked on, which is a shame. A game like Cambridge is what he should be playing for game time and confidence boost(if that's what he lacking) he's at risk of being left out and stagnating. I understand he's had chances this season and hasn't taken them
     
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