FA Cup 5th Round

Blackburn Rovers 1:2 Manchester United

Ewood Park

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    You have a lovely way of taking digs at people in a polite manner. I'm a realist.

    If my aunty had balls, she'd be my uncle.

    We have not shown any signs of mounting an assault on every front. We lost twice in our EL group and have had favourable draws in The FA Cup. We even lost the 2nd leg away to Hull. Add those draws on top of it and you do not have a quadruple side in the works.

    Whatever man, you carry on. We're in the EFL Cup final, favourites for the Europa League, and hopefully in the FA Cup quarters tomorrow. Jose can't do any more than that. But I'll take that thank you very much.

    You must be on a wind up.
     
    I'm starting to think Carrick and Rooney ‘minor injuries’ are just a cover for transfer/contract situations not being clarified. Rooney to China and Carrick stalling on his renovation might keep them out of the team for a while. Mourinho's been playing hardball this season about those things.
     
    We've already seen how good ASSE can be. It's important that we see out the 1st half.

    Ideally, you should be banned for accusing someone of being a WUM. I won't hold my breath though.

    You're a guy declaring no one would care if we lost tomorrow!
    I think you're closer to a ban than me.
     
    I'm starting to think Carrick and Rooney ‘minor injuries’ are just a cover for transfer/contract situations not being clarified. Rooney to China and Carrick stalling on his renovation might keep them out of the team for a while. Mourinho's been playing hardball this season about those things.
    That would be nice if true. But with the amount of games we will have to play, we will be needing both the players to play their part in order for us to rest some key players.
     
    Whatever man, you carry on. We're in the EFL Cup final, favourites for the Europa League, and hopefully in the FA Cup quarters tomorrow. Jose can't do any more than that. But I'll take that thank you very much.

    You must be on a wind up.

    Careful, he's asking for bans for being called that :lol:
     
    I'm starting to think Carrick and Rooney ‘minor injuries’ are just a cover for transfer/contract situations not being clarified. Rooney to China and Carrick stalling on his renovation might keep them out of the team for a while. Mourinho's been playing hardball this season about those things.

    Could be, but I doubt José would keep them out of training, as he didn't with Memphis, Schneiderlin or Young.
     
    You're a guy declaring no one would care if we lost tomorrow!
    I think you're closer to a ban than me.

    I'm not the one accusing people. You simply can't accept that other people might think differently.

    "Criticise the post, not the poster."
     
    Since we had a favorable result against Saint-Étienne, I would definitely use almost all the big guns here and rest them in France, where he can play counter-attack defensive football, and have just three days ahead of the more important final game on Sunday.
     
    Since we had a favorable result against Saint-Étienne, I would definitely use almost all the big guns here and rest them in France, where he can play counter-attack defensive football, and have just three days ahead of the more important final game on Sunday.

    I see what you're saying about our comfortable position in the Saint-Étienne tie meaning we should look to field our weaker team, but I also expect Jose to use the squad tomorrow. For me there's nothing wrong at all with squad players and kids getting a chance in both of these upcoming games then going full strength at Wembley.
     
    I see what you're saying about our comfortable position in the Saint-Étienne tie meaning we should look to field our weaker team, but I also expect Jose to use the squad tomorrow. For me there's nothing wrong at all with squad players and kids getting a chance in both of these upcoming games then going full strength at Wembley.
    Nothing wrong with having a travel and less than four days rest before a final, while our opponents haven't played for how long? Not all of our players (perhaps Valencia, Bailly, Pogba, Herrera, Ibrahimović…) have the physical conditioning to be at their top level on Sunday that way.

    What I was saying is that the Saint-Étienne result allows Mourinho to think solely of the Blackburn game, use whoever he likes, before considering who he'll play on Wednesday.
     
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    I'm not the one accusing people. You simply can't accept that other people might think differently.

    "Criticise the post, not the poster."

    I know you got a temp ban the other day for calling a certain poster a cnut & a bellend, but surely you can see the difference between that and claiming someone must be on a wind-up if they think no-one would care if the FA Cup holders got knocked out to the side currently sitting second bottom of Championship, no?
     
    I know you got a temp ban the other day for calling a certain poster a cnut & a bellend, but surely you can see the difference between that and claiming someone must be on a wind-up if they think no-one would care if the FA Cup holders got knocked out to the side currently sitting second bottom of Championship, no?

    No.
     
    Nothing wrong with having a travel and less than four days rest before a final, while our opponents haven't played for how long? Not all of our players (perhaps Valencia, Bailly, Pogba, Herrera, Ibrahimović…) have the physical conditioning to be at their top level on Sunday that way.

    What I was saying is that the Saint-Étienne result allows Mourinho to think solely at the Blackburn game, use whoever he likes, before considering who he'll play on Wednesday.

    I agree the 3-0 has given Jose the option to perhaps put more senior players in tomorrow, knowing they don't even have to travel to France if necessary, but I disagree he should be looking to field 'almost all the big guns'. He can afford to delve into his squad, in order to both rest senior guys and take a look at some squad/youth options, while ensuring we are clear favourites against a team struggling to stay in the Championship.

    For the record I'm not saying I don't care about winning the game, of course I want us to win it and I'd be disappointed if we didn't. But Jose should be able to rotate players for this kind of game and expect a win. If he does make sweeping changes and we do lose, I'd be much more angry with the players who've let us and themselves down than with Jose for ringing the changes.
     
    I agree the 3-0 has given Jose the option to perhaps put more senior players in tomorrow, knowing they don't even have to travel to France if necessary, but I disagree he should be looking to field 'almost all the big guns'. He can afford to delve into his squad, in order to both rest senior guys and take a look at some squad/youth options, while ensuring we are clear favourites against a team struggling to stay in the Championship.

    For the record I'm not saying I don't care about winning the game, of course I want us to win it and I'd be disappointed if we didn't. But Jose should be able to rotate players for this kind of game and expect a win. If he does make sweeping changes and we do lose, I'd be much more angry with the players who've let us and themselves down than with Jose for ringing the changes.
    Having seen the results today, nothing like that can be taken for granted. Unless we field a very strong lineup, we might get in trouble just like everyone else.
     
    Hope what Jose said and the upsets today have them fully focused.
    Never really understood that tbh.
    Unless you mean that today's upsets may motivate Blackburn to...? That would also work the other way though. Blackburn may feel less confident knowing that we know there have already been upsets so know that United won't take the game for granted.
    Ok, there's always 1 or 2 upsets in the cup each (earlier) rounds but it never dilutes where we have more lower league clubs than top.
    We should (and I expect) us to set up to win this tie.
    We (and i) expect us to win this game at the first time of asking. Whatever the team.
     
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    Whatever man, you carry on. We're in the EFL Cup final, favourites for the Europa League, and hopefully in the FA Cup quarters tomorrow. Jose can't do any more than that. But I'll take that thank you very much.

    You must be on a wind up.
    Why are we favourites to win the Europa? did we not finished 2nd in our group? I see about 9 teams who could pose a serious threat and possibly knock us out
     
    Regardless of what team we pick (from our 22-24 first team squad) - I can't see us losing to this Blackburn-side
     
    Why are we favourites to win the Europa? did we not finished 2nd in our group? I see about 9 teams who could pose a serious threat and possibly knock us out

    We are one of 6-7 teams with realistic chances to win the tournament....I would say we have a good chance, and I can't see any team that makes me think: we are underdogs here. We are ONE of the favourites...
     
    Why are we favourites to win the Europa? did we not finished 2nd in our group? I see about 9 teams who could pose a serious threat and possibly knock us out
    Any team you might call the favourites in the EL could get beat by several teams but the bookies have to make someone the favourite and it's us. And we may have finished second in the group but our form has picked up considerably since the start of the tournament, most of the group phase was during our terrible run of form.
     
    Herrera is suspended for Wednesday game so no need to rest him. Rojo, Shaw, TFM, Young Rooney should start
     
    Really hope JM trusts his squad

    I want to see Bastian, TFM, Young, Rash up front and Shaw

    Jones and Rojo are back now so should start in defen
     
    Just putting the question out there now.

    We play Blackburn tomorrow, away in the FA Cup where we surely want to win and at least avoid a replay. We play St. Etienne away on a Wednesday where the tie is all but over. Why would we rest a plethora of players in both games instead of just the latter, which is over. Out-and-out first XI players who play this game tomorrow will have a week long rest before the final against Southampton. Hell, some of them won't even need to travel to France so will be even more rested.

    To me, it just makes sense to stick with the majority of the first-team tomorrow, then bring in the squad players against St. Etienne to rest the first XI for Southampton. Surely even players like Zlatan, Pogba, Martial, Mata etc aren't going to need to be left out of playing a game for a nine day period.

    I do get that for this season, the FA Cup is bottom of the list in terms of goals this season behind Top 4, League Cup, and the Europa League. But, we're in the Final of the League Cup, Top 4 is very much alive and we're not needing to bother about that for a couple of weeks. We are all but through to the next round of the Europa League already even if we rest our entire first team... So, we might as well just go pretty much full strength here (and by that I still mean there will be about four changes including de Gea coming in to make the side stronger anyway) and progress.

    Jones, Rojo, Shaw, Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Schweinsteiger, Fellaini, Young, Rashford, Rooney, Lingard etc will get the minutes in France and maybe one or two + some as subs tomorrow still.
     
    Rashford
    Young Rooney Lingard
    Schweinsteiger Herrera
    Shaw Rojo Smalling Darmian
    Romero​
     
    Just putting the question out there now.

    We play Blackburn tomorrow, away in the FA Cup where we surely want to win and at least avoid a replay. We play St. Etienne away on a Wednesday where the tie is all but over. Why would we rest a plethora of players in both games instead of just the latter, which is over. Out-and-out first XI players who play this game tomorrow will have a week long rest before the final against Southampton. Hell, some of them won't even need to travel to France so will be even more rested.

    To me, it just makes sense to stick with the majority of the first-team tomorrow, then bring in the squad players against St. Etienne to rest the first XI for Southampton. Surely even players like Zlatan, Pogba, Martial, Mata etc aren't going to need to be left out of playing a game for a nine day period.

    I do get that for this season, the FA Cup is bottom of the list in terms of goals this season behind Top 4, League Cup, and the Europa League. But, we're in the Final of the League Cup, Top 4 is very much alive and we're not needing to bother about that for a couple of weeks. We are all but through to the next round of the Europa League already even if we rest our entire first team... So, we might as well just go pretty much full strength here (and by that I still mean there will be about four changes including de Gea coming in to make the side stronger anyway) and progress.

    Jones, Rojo, Shaw, Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Schweinsteiger, Fellaini, Young, Rashford, Rooney, Lingard etc will get the minutes in France and maybe one or two + some as subs tomorrow still.
    In my opinion there's one good thing about using the best lineup against Blackburn and that is the chance to score loads of goals - it should be easier to score against a Championship team that's currently 23rd even though it's an away game (not that far, but still). Would be a good thing given the fact most of the players seem to lack the right "scoring confidence" at the moment.

    They could then get an "energy boost" and hopefully feel like they can score again in the coming matches as well.
     
    In my opinion there's one good thing about using the best lineup against Blackburn and that is the chance to score loads of goals - it should be easier to score against a Championship team that's currently 23rd even though it's an away game (not that far, but still). Would be a good thing given the fact most of the players seem to lack the right "scoring confidence" at the moment.

    They could then get an "energy boost" and hopefully feel like they can score again in the coming matches as well.
    Yeah, I also think that too long out is sometimes a bit of a worry, as the players may start slow, which we can't be doing in a final.
     
    Just putting the question out there now.

    We play Blackburn tomorrow, away in the FA Cup where we surely want to win and at least avoid a replay. We play St. Etienne away on a Wednesday where the tie is all but over. Why would we rest a plethora of players in both games instead of just the latter, which is over. Out-and-out first XI players who play this game tomorrow will have a week long rest before the final against Southampton. Hell, some of them won't even need to travel to France so will be even more rested.

    To me, it just makes sense to stick with the majority of the first-team tomorrow, then bring in the squad players against St. Etienne to rest the first XI for Southampton. Surely even players like Zlatan, Pogba, Martial, Mata etc aren't going to need to be left out of playing a game for a nine day period.

    I do get that for this season, the FA Cup is bottom of the list in terms of goals this season behind Top 4, League Cup, and the Europa League. But, we're in the Final of the League Cup, Top 4 is very much alive and we're not needing to bother about that for a couple of weeks. We are all but through to the next round of the Europa League already even if we rest our entire first team... So, we might as well just go pretty much full strength here (and by that I still mean there will be about four changes including de Gea coming in to make the side stronger anyway) and progress.

    Jones, Rojo, Shaw, Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Schweinsteiger, Fellaini, Young, Rashford, Rooney, Lingard etc will get the minutes in France and maybe one or two + some as subs tomorrow still.

    Not sure we can bypass St. Etienne because they were up for the match on Thursday, as were their fans. First goal mid-week to St. Eti and who knows what the reaction of the team will be, especially if a lesser experienced team is fielded. One would think that Jose and his staff are working a bit backwards as you eluded to with team selection. Who are the bang on starters for the cup final. He wants to win things and the sooner he gets that, the better for everybody.

    And I feel as if Zlatan and Pogba will play mid-week only because of their French ties. It's always an interesting dilemma to have because it means we're winning/progressing.

    On the other side of the coin about tomorrow is that Blackburn is a club in deep, deep turmoil. It's amazing in the worst way. Their players should be well up for it and the crowd, who knows how they react. But one thing for certain, United's away support will be immense as always and it's a local trip to Blackburn.
     
    Is it a good ground to have a few beers and watch a match ?

    It's ok. I think for a lot of United fans it brings back a bit of nostalgia from the 90's when they were competing with us for titles... plus it's fairly local.

    I recall there being a pub near the away end which was alright... mostly just excited because the away allocation is huge and the atmosphere amongst my fellow travelling United fans is going to be ace. I've seen a lot of people struggling to get tickets despite how many we were given and the club had more ticket applications for this match than the next Manchester derby even.
     
    Romero
    TFM, Bailly, Rojo, Shaw,Fellaini, Carrick, Lingard, Rooney, Mikhi, Rashford, Darmian, Schwainstaiger, Young.
    4:0 UTD.
    You heard it here first, folks!

    Romero, Darmian-Rojo-Blind-Shaw, Fellaini-Carrick-BFS, Lingard-Rooney-Rasford

    We may well win 4 nil but there's no chance Jose will play such weakened teams that have played so seldom together

    My team prediction: DDG, TFM Jones Rojo Shaw Bastian Herrera Lingard Mkhi Rooney Rashford
    2-0 win for us.

    More likley than the first two lineups but TFM AND Shaw together is doubtful. Rooney & Mkhi sound like they're still not quite ready yet. They will probably be in the St Etienne return match though.
     
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Score Predictions

531,14,19
  • Man Utd win
  • Blackburn win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 34% Blackburn 0:2 Man Utd
  • 22% Blackburn 0:3 Man Utd
  • 11% Blackburn 1:2 Man Utd
  • 10% Blackburn 1:3 Man Utd
  • 7% Blackburn 0:4 Man Utd
  • 4% Blackburn 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Blackburn 1:4 Man Utd
  • 2% Blackburn 0:5 Man Utd
  • 2% Blackburn 1:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Blackburn 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Blackburn 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Blackburn 1:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 2:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 5:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 2:3 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 4:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 4:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 2:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 5:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Blackburn 2:0 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Blackburn
  2. Man Utd
Possession
34% 66%
Shots
8 13
Shots on Target
6 3
Corners
5 5
Fouls
12 11

Referee

Martin Atkinson