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I get you and tbh I feel the same, I wish that the transfers are done so I could be calmer and looking forward for the pre-season and then the beginning of the season.I badly wanna know who will be signed cause there'll be new players for sure
 

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It's better to actually wait for something official before wanking.I'm just saying so that some don't get disappointed if there is no signing
We've been interested in so many players but did we ever sign half of them ?
If the transfer forum was limited to players United made official bids it would be very quiet, it's for the most part speculation driven. It is not that often when an official United bid is made public by the club, I can't recall United ever acknowledging public interest in Berbatov until the last day of the transfer window but it had been speculated about for a couple of years that bids had been rejected for him when he was a Spurs player, fuelled by the press and Jol. Hargreaves is the only recent example of a player I can remember Fergie went public on, much to the annoyance of Bayern.

At least with Benzema there is some reason to believe United would be after him this summer. Whether it comes off is an entirely different matter.
 

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if barcelona or madrid decided that they wanted to buy benzema tommorrow then given his own preference for spain thats where he would end up

which means the hours spent discussing new shirt numbers, making benzema 7 shirts and wanking off at the prospect of him signing have been wasted

how did you spend your saturday? hahaha
 

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Fair enough, a realistic bastard like myself has nothing to do in the transfer forum I guess


if barcelona or madrid decided that they wanted to buy benzema tommorrow then given his own preference for spain thats where he would end up

which means the hours spent discussing new shirt numbers, making benzema 7 shirts and wanking off at the prospect of him signing have been wasted

how did you spend your saturday? hahaha
That's my point, drawing shirts with numbers and possible formations is kinda more than speculation
 

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You lot :lol:

All Lyon jave done is sent a ;come and give us some money plea;. Yesterday it was Madrid and Barcelona, today it is us. There is nothing in this story. Move along.
 

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You lot :lol:

All Lyon jave done is sent a ;come and give us some money plea;. Yesterday it was Madrid and Barcelona, today it is us. There is nothing in this story. Move along.
Too late, he's already been given a number in paint - there's no turning back from here I'm afraid.


I'll be very surprised if we do buy Benzema.
 

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I think same.

If anything Lyon are trying to get someone to bid for the player.
They might be trying to flush out potential buyers that have not yet declared an interest.
It's hard to know Lyon's selling position, of course they will sell for the 'right' price whatever that is.

Some factors:

Lyon's immediate financial needs- they have lost the title for the first time in 7 years, and almost missed the third CL spot. Can they risk another season like that, or do they need to cash in on Benzema, so they can redistribute that money on rebuilding the squad or can they do that without selling Benzema. So that's the question of seller motivation?

Then there is the demand for Benzema among prospective buyers, how highly they value him; how much does the club need this type of player, how highly do they rate his quality and ability to improve their team, how many players of that quality are available, and what kind of budget do these clubs have?

There is also Benzema's own sporting and financial preferences.

Lyon's ability to command high prices for transfers, reflects increased revenue in tv rights, their dominance in the french league and relative success in the CL.
 

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I get you and tbh I feel the same, I wish that the transfers are done so I could be calmer and looking forward for the pre-season and then the beginning of the season.I badly wanna know who will be signed cause there'll be new players for sure
Has there ever been a close-season when we were more certain that we were going to make some major purchases or less certain who the feck they might be?

Arrrgh.
 

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Great post Gabe, it puts things into perspective.I believe like most of you Lyon will sell but for a huge fee and to a club in either Spain or England.
 

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I think same.

If anything Lyon are trying to get someone to bid for the player.
Who wants to bid crazy money for an unproven player? I'm glad their greediness is finally blowing up in their face.
 

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Who wants to bid crazy money for an unproven player? I'm glad their greediness is finally blowing up in their face.
Rooney was less proven. 1 wonder goal against a good Arsenal defence, does not compare to Benzema's CL goal against us and some other good CL teams.
 

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Who wants to bid crazy money for an unproven player? I'm glad their greediness is finally blowing up in their face.[/QUOTE
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Rooney was less proven. 1 wonder goal against arsenal does not compare to his CL goal against us and some other good CL teams
rooney was by far england's best player at euro 2004 and one of the leading scorers until he got injured. if he hadn't, england IMO would've powered through to atleast the semi's.

don't get me wrong...i've been wanking about benzema since 2007 but benzema hasn't done anything on the international stage like rooney had shown before we bought rooney. however, benzema IMO has made up for it by showing good ability in european play.

benzema wil probably be sold for 35 million + 5 million success bonuses.
 

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Rooney was less proven. 1 wonder goal against a good Arsenal defence, does not compare to Benzema's CL goal against us and some other good CL teams.
I wouldn't have payed 50M for Rooney, and wouldn't do it with Benzema either.
 

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Having a feeling S.A.F. will go for a few young exciting players rather than some so-called 'big' names. Hehe, me not a visionary, just an internet user.
 

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We'll have to get him as soon as possible.

As for the winger i just dont know who is right for us.

Ribery is expensive and Bayern wont sell, i hardly doubt he wants to come, if he moves its probably to Barca. If you ask me our options are few, there arent much World Class wingers out there to choose.

Ashley Young may be good but we are Utd and not Aston Villa, we should be looking at the best not good ones, IMO Ben Arfa has quality but who knows how inconsistent he would be and we got no time for that, Lennon always tear Evra a new one and you have to very good to do that pretty often, anyway Spurs wont sell us a virus in Fergie's words. Ederson from Lyon seems like a very skillful player but if we got Benzema i doubt they will sell another player to us, David Silva is vry good but i think he would find difficult to adapt giving we dont have Spanish speakers in the team and he would choose Liverpool to us anytime giving all their country mates are there, Lets not speak about Valencia pls, he is just an average player thats gets the focus for been a big fish in a small fish tank.
 

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Do we really want to sign someone who has already admitted that it's their "dream" to play for Real? Do we really want to go through all this again? Signing a young player, making him excellent and then suffering through a long courtship with Real Madrid before we're finally forced to sell? Frankly, I'm a little bit sick of United being made to look like Madrid's bitches. If they want a player we've got, well then they get him. Without fail.

And that'll all happen again if we sign Benzema, self-confessed Madridophile.
 

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Do we really want to sign someone who has already admitted that it's their "dream" to play for Real? Do we really want to go through all this again? Signing a young player, making him excellent and then suffering through a long courtship with Real Madrid before we're finally forced to sell? Frankly, I'm a little bit sick of United being made to look like Madrid's bitches. If they want a player we've got, well then they get him. Without fail.

And that'll all happen again if we sign Benzema, self-confessed Madridophile.
are milan, juve, and barca madrid's bitches?
 

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Don't know about these "dream quotes" because I think these kind of thinks can be misinterpreted quite easily.

I dream of winning a million in lottery but would prefer 2 millions yet it would be a dream come true to win half a million.

Maybe his dream is to play for one of the biggest team in the world like Real or perhaps Ac milan or United.
 

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Juve are.
juve also used zidane money to get the best and most expensive keeper in the world, thuram, and nedved. 3 superstars who played their most of their primes at juve.

if we make out that well with the ronnie deal, and then if we sell benzema for 100 million quid 5 years from now and reload then so be it.

however, what's to say that benzema comes here and ends up loving the place.

the problem isn't that players want out for madrid..the problem is that it seems that english/northern europeans right now don't have the skill players that the latin/african types have so we're forced to look at brazilians/argies/southern frenchies etc who all have grown up taking to la liga/continental football more. we need to start minting our own elite players like barca so they'll never leave.

and selling ron doesn't make us madrid's bitch. all the others we sold to madrid, were on our terms.
 

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The only reason I am thinking this could be a genuine chance to sign Benzema is because if madrid wanted him, why wouldn't they have bought him already.

It seems odd that out of all teams madrid has not bid on him at all. I do not see him going to Barcelona as they will most likely get Villa.

I think it comes down to, if SAF wants Benzema this summer, he is going to get him.

And all this talk about buying players whose dream is to play for madrid is a load of crap.

ronaldo was here for six years. ruud was sold because we didn't want him anymore. heinze we we sold to madrid because no-one else would pay 8m and it is not like beckham was sold to them because it was his dream to play for them.
 

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Haven't really been following the thread but this is my two cents, for what its worth.

1. If there's a chance of signing him for £35m, then i say take it...in today's climate, the question is this...is he half as good as Ronaldo and £10m better than tevez? I sure think so.

2. Don't care if he wants to go to Madrid. If he does, we'll sell him on in 3 years for £60m or something, after winning another few titles. Who cares? Players come and go. Dwight Yorke came to united and did the biznez for 2-3 seasons before he lost all motivation and was then shipped out. Did we complain at all? Hell no. He gave us the treble and a few other titles - who cares if he only gave us 3 good seasons? That's success enough in my mind. If say benzema were to come, give us 3 great seasons and go off to madrid, who cares? Wouldn't that be the same as Yorkie's situation in relation to motivation?

Sign him! Muppets unite!
 

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Haven't really been following the thread but this is my two cents, for what its worth.

1. If there's a chance of signing him for £35m, then i say take it...in today's climate, the question is this...is he half as good as Ronaldo and £10m better than tevez? I sure think so.

2. Don't care if he wants to go to Madrid. If he does, we'll sell him on in 3 years for £60m or something, after winning another few titles. Who cares? Players come and go. Dwight Yorke came to united and did the biznez for 2-3 seasons before he lost all motivation and was then shipped out. Did we complain at all? Hell no. He gave us the treble and a few other titles - who cares if he only gave us 3 good seasons? That's success enough in my mind. If say benzema were to come, give us 3 great seasons and go off to madrid, who cares? Wouldn't that be the same as Yorkie's situation in relation to motivation?

Sign him! Muppets unite!
What a great post,we are all guilty of wanting a 10 year no Madrid contract for any potential new signing and it is because we are all a bit hurt by Ronaldos departure.
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I think we should put in a serious bid for him now. Quality has left our club and we need quality to replace it, otherwise we may come up short next season. We have the opportunity now to strengthen the areas that are weak and our strikeforce is a major area of concern right now. Ronaldo and Tevez scored/created a lot of goals for us and that output must be replicated somehow.

Sir Alex has been an admirer of Karim Benzema for some time now. We have a large amount of available cash and if we can get him for a decent price, relative to what Real Madrid have done to the transfer market, then we should. You know all about his qualities and potential so there is no point bringing that up again. Also forget about a potential move on from us to Real Madrid for him. We are playing in the present and we must do whatever is necessary to make us successful now. The future is uncertain so why worry about what might happen?
 

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I think we should put in a serious bid for him now. Quality has left our club and we need quality to replace it, otherwise we may come up short next season. We have the opportunity now to strengthen the areas that are weak and our strikeforce is a major area of concern right now. Ronaldo and Tevez scored/created a lot of goals for us and that output must be replicated somehow.

Sir Alex has been an admirer of Karim Benzema for some time now. We have a large amount of available cash and if we can get him for a decent price, relative to what Real Madrid have done to the transfer market, then we should. You know all about his qualities and potential so there is no point bringing that up again. Also forget about a potential move on from us to Real Madrid for him. We are playing in the present and we must do whatever is necessary to make us successful now. The future is uncertain so why worry about what might happen?

Good post RB, reckon I would take him over Ribery as well. Probably of similar costs, but I dont know how much better Ribery will get although he is probably one of the top 5-10 players in the world atm. Benzema on the otherhand is probably one of the top 5-10 strikers and hasnt hit his prime yet. Reckon he could replace Ronaldo's goal return if all goes well
 

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RB, you've a point. Because present success is important and success breeds success. However, the concern is If Benzema plays well in his first season in United's shirt, or any other club for instance, will Madrid not start to unsettle him through any means? Then will we witness "Real are my dream club" part two? Benzema is a self-confessed Madrid fan. Lyon President says it too.
 

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RB, you've a point. Because present success is important and success breeds success. However, the concern is If Benzema plays well in his first season in United's shirt, or any other club for instance, Will Madrid not start to unsettle him through any means? Then will we witness "Real are my dream club" part two? Benzema is a self-confessed Madrid fan. Lyon President says it too.
Another 80 million will get him, Real will try to unsettle any top player, becasue they are allowed to. They arent Ronaldo's boyhood team, he said after 2006 when the rumors of him leaving surfaced that he would prefer to go to Barca or Madrid.
 

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If he leaves Lyon this summer then it'll be for us. He's not top on Real's list so he won't to there this year. Unless Barca sell Eto'o and don't sign Villa or Ribery then he won't go there either

He's not been linked anywhere else besides Milan, and that was a few months ago.
 

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RB, you've a point. Because present success is important and success breeds success. However, the concern is If Benzema plays well in his first season in United's shirt, or any other club for instance, will Madrid not start to unsettle him through any means? Then will we witness "Real are my dream club" part two? Benzema is a self-confessed Madrid fan. Lyon President says it too.
So why have madrid not tried to sign him already. We have seen them make numerous attempts to sign Villa and now they are negotiating with Inter Milan for Zlatan.
 

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If he leaves Lyon this summer then it'll be for us. He's not top on Real's list so he won't to there this year. Unless Barca sell Eto'o and don't sign Villa or Ribery then he won't go there either

He's not been linked anywhere else besides Milan, and that was a few months ago.
I tend to think that way as well.

Although it will be problematic if Barcelona come in with a bid.
 

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He'd come pre packaged with him own chant. Wonder if Ralphie, Utd Heap and co would be offended if we nicked Lyon's chant of 'Ben Ben Benzema, Ben Ben Ben Benzema'? :smirk:

I'm not a '***per' of this particular player. Have seen him at OT though and he looked pretty tasty. I think if we're going to make a big signing, it should be someone with the potential to be the best in the world in their position, and this lad looks like he could fit the bill in that regard. If Fergie does decide this is the man for the job, money should be no object. That goes for whoever Fergie identifies, get the right players in Sir Alex
 

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Actually Berbs is not bad on the wing, surprisingley good in tight places, i would rather Berbs on the wing than Rooney.
You are clueless last week you said Berbatov can be our Iniesta and play as a CM/AMC with Carrick in a 4-4-2 and now your saying he should play on the wings... What the feck is up with you man? have you been smoking some nasty shit recently?

Why is Nani in the starting line ups all of a sudden? He's barely good enough to start a carling cup game at the moment!
That is rubbish and you know it..

i'd love a cheeky bid for gourcuff as well - think he will be a genuine star in years to come
Except that he just left AC Milan and signed a 4-5 year contract with Bordeaux..

He certainly will replace that twat Tevez well
Come on Alex.. have some respect for the guy.. He may have mis-behaved but he was brilliant last season and did very well at the back end of this season.. We all agree that he acted like a prat but seriously go easy on the fella..
 
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