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Thoughts on the design?


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Will I be able to take a half time anxiety dump while getting cancer from second hand smoke? Why is nobody asking the big questions.
 
Yeah if you remove an absolutely enormous and distinctive part of it sure.

If you remove the pitch it's not even really a football stadium.
:D Fair enough- theres been some tent stadium such as casablanca or the old bayern stadium olympia stadium, but it is much rarer than the modern UFO design
 
Just an opposition fan shitting on us without any information to back it up.
Hope so for your sake. But that stadium looks very expensive to me and I wouldn't be surprised if the fans will have to pick up the bill.
 
I like the design conceptually with the glowing trident and all, but I can't help it but think that it makes it look a little mosque-like? This is kind of a stadium design I would expect in Saudi Arabia or Qatar. Other than that everything looks pretty cool about it.
Totally the opposite a ‘Devil’s Trident’ which is what the walkway and stadium represent would only antagonise any incoming future Middle Eastern Owner beyond belief!
 
:D Fair enough- theres been some tent stadium such as casablanca or the old bayern stadium olympia stadium, but it is much rarer than the modern UFO design

Not that I particularly mind the modern design personally. I'm not even sure how I feel about the tridents. They do look distinctive though which I think I like.
 
It's a ship canal. You'd build them somewhere they can come in by sea. I don't know which firms can already fabricate the parts or whether they could be done by a shipyard that fancies diversifying even.

I doubt the logistics are impossible though - though the cost of making it possible might turn out to be. I suspect it's easier than building in a landlocked city centre though. I'm guessing we'll hear more from Peel Holdings etc if the canal infrastructure is going to need work.
Without doing a proper study of the new stadium and in lieu of the size and weight of the individual modules, this is fairly normal now for large scale projects. A big shift from stick build to modularised cargo. Ineos particularly have favoured modularised cargo recently.

It’ll be built in a major fabrication yard (or several), moved out by barge, loaded to a self-geared vessel (depending on the fabrication yard location), rolled on to another barge down the Manchester canal. Roll-off the barge and down to Old Trafford on SPMTs.

It’s obviously going to be more intricate than that, needs a full feasibility study and shit ton of transport engineering, but that’s the process at a high level.

All doable in theory but a massive undertaking.
 
The new toilets will blow smoke up your arse
I’ve heard they’ve got automated heated and self cleaning, self flushing and the toilet seat is self closing too!

Apparently importing them from Japan and we will have a new sponsor ‘ToTo’ on each toilet, some of these toilets are going to sing all our best chants as well when you enter?
 
I’ve heard they’ve got automated heated and self cleaning, self flushing and the toilet seat is self closing too!

Apparently importing them from Japan and we will have a new sponsor ‘ToTo’ on each toilet, some of these toilets are going to sing all our best chants as well when you enter?
As long as we don’t have those infamous German toilets where your shit lands on a flat surface at the risk of grazing your sack on the way down.
 
Generally speaking, I do kind of like the design. The three towers should be a little wider for my taste, though. Other than that it’s at least quite unique.
 
Well said. Our history has always been steeped in embracing change and being the pioneers of English football. Our most successful periods have in large been down to the managers/owners of the time being willing to embrace new ways of doing things, prioritizing new tournaments and implementing new approaches to the game. Hopefully this is the catalyst to another great era for the club. This stadium would immediately out-date all those that have been redeveloped and built before it in this country.

Yes I am sure it will.
 
Well said Buster. It's counter-intuitive to the younger guys I know, but we old people care more about the future as time goes on, and that's what matters most, the future.

Quite agree.
Manchester United is my passion and like many others, I am desperate to see it back at the very top.
 
I think those excited by this forget that the Glazers are still the majority stakeholders, and only reinforces their current position in going absolutely nowhere. But, hey. Least now they've helped bring Disneyland to Manchester.
 
Totally agree! If this is realised, then it’s going to be absolutely magnificent. I’ve been wanting a new stadium like this for years and years so I’m - mildly put - very excited!

Me too.
 
Having looked at a few videos and all the pictures of the proposed design. I hate to say I really don't like the design but I won't moan about it because once I accepted they were going down the new stadium route I suspected it'd look something like this.

I just hope we have a cleaver way to fund it that won't cripple the club financially for years or price out the regulars.
 
I mean it's not though is it? It's a perfectly nice stadium, but as a football ground it gets blander every time I go.

Have you done a stadium tour.
Have you seen the deck below the football pitch.
 
Presumably this has been posted already. Lord Foster explains it.


Jaysus. Pre fabrication comes with a host of issues, mainly mould and water protection issues during construction

If Google’s billion pound office in London had similar issues then be hard to argue that this won’t too.

In fact, they’re claiming this to be environmentally friendly, but there’s surely concerns about its longevity in general no? It won’t last the same amount of time that Old Trafford did without constant expensive maintenance, something we neglected before - but even more needed with fecking solar membranes and rainwater harvesting.

It’ll probably be in disrepair in 75 years, meaning a new wave of construction, and meaning more carbon in the atmosphere. Gimmicks like that umbrella tent thing are common in parts of the world that generally don’t give a feck about sustainability.
 
I think it’s stunning, visiting a stadium for a match should always be special and you have to say it’s pretty unique and thankfully not some boring bowl/dome that seems to be the trend these days
 
Maybe they'll do something similar to the Apple campus and have underground parking.
Not sure if that would be possible unless everything around is raised up, United had to raise the pitch to get the drainage and undersoil heating in which suggests they can't go down very far, presumably becaue of the water table, going by car I'n guessing will be actively discouraged
 
Sad, because I love Old Trafford, even if it is a dump. So many good memories in that place. Just hope they will find the new stand with equally good ones.
 
They are building 4000 homes around the stadium, that is 10,000 people. The museum currently has 300,000 visitors a year. This would increase massively in a new stadium with 100,000 people attending once a week. Judging by the scale of the project, it will be a huge entertainment complex, so people will make a weekend out of it.

Transport links from Manchester city centre are already very good, it is only a few stops on the tram. The entirety of the waterside from Salford Quays, all the way round the Trafford wharf will be bustling with bars and restaurants. It will be a destination as well as a place where people live.
I can recognise the scale but your average visitor to the city/stadium only has X amount to spend as will the new residents, perhaps I'm looking for negativity but I find the newly developed parts of Manchester cold and lifeless. What I'm getting at is I hope it brings in more new money and opportunities rather than pulling from preexisting areas. I'm being a touch selfish as my current job is something of a rival business and is likely to get affected.
 
Lord Norman Foster, eh. Didn't know he was still active.

It's more reminiscent of a Middle-Eastern tent style rather than the Red Devil's Trident and I'm failing to see the "industrial roots" other than a tiny reference through the steel supports of the glass panels above the stadium.

Also, that's not going to be built in five years.
It'll take 5 years to build the accomodation for all the Polish builders they'll need to import in!
 
Agree.

According to this, Spurs have 15 upcoming concerts in 2025....
https://www.songkick.com/venues/4368336-tottenham-hotspur-stadium/calendar

And obviously, when an artist or band goes to London, they could also be playing Wembley, The Emirates or the Olympic Stadium.

With an 100k capacity, or more with floor standing or seats, the new OT will be the number one venue in the north. The club could easily be making 10 mil an event.
You need a stadium to operate on more than 30 days per year.

Look at Wembley now, it’s more of a music venue than a football stadium.

I reckon I’ve been to the new Wembley 60-70 times, and the majority have been for gigs.

Like you say, there is no competition in the north.
 
Well said Buster. It's counter-intuitive to the younger guys I know, but we old people care more about the future as time goes on, and that's what matters most, the future.
I think it's more to do with the fact that the younger guys have only known the stadium as it basically is now, us older folks remember it when it looked nothing like it does now, what we might have been nostalgic about is long gone and has been for decades
 
I mean, that's just neither here nor there. You have no idea how people will feel about it when it's built, you just want to reinforce your own opinion by saying "ah it's fine we'll all love it at the end". It's nonsense. Your banal take basically implies that anything new that gets built is for the best as people will always love it in the end, based solely on some tired cliche of "people hate change." Maybe some people have valid reasons why they don't like it and you suggesting that it's just about people not liking change is bollocks? What you mean to say is "I like it and I don't care that others don't". Which is fine by the way, but you don't need to add this layer of soothsayer platitudes to back yourself up.

I get that. My intention was to be positive, not to reinforce my own opinion though.

I know a lot of people got valid reasons to not like the design, as others have valid reasons to like the design. In the end, someone has to make the decisions and be responsible for them, knowing that it will not please everyone. My bad wording to try to be positive was that hopefully everyone will come to love it in the end, because we love United and it will be our new home.
 
I'm unsure how to feel about the whole thing. Mostly I'm just feeling that money ruins everything.
 
Looks like a circus tent, to match the circus that the club has become in recent years. Theatre of Dreams to Circus of Nightmares - the headlines write themselves on this sucker. Also, sounds weird to say it but I think there's too much red everywhere - looks a bit tacky. Also, about time the club changed their branding - it's started to look really dated. Apart from that crack on lads.