Day 12 | England v Slovenia + Denmark v Serbia | France v Poland + Netherlands v Austria

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I have no idea either, yet.
To me does that not give you a free pass to properly go for it, set down a marker?

We are just as likely to finish second by settling for a draw, seems like it won't happen but equally as risky.

It's not a free pass but it's also not the end of the world.

This insane overreacting to everything about the England team is what heaps the pressure on generation after generation of talent.
 

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GROUP C FINAL STANDINGSpublished at 21:56
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FT: England 0-0 Slovenia

England go through as group winners.

Denmark finish second with Slovenia third - both sides go through.

They finished level on points, goal difference, goals scored and disciplinary record (6-6 on yellow cards).

The next tie breaker was who had the best qualifying record - and Denmark finished above Slovenia - coincidentally in the same qualifying group - on head-to-head record, after both sides finished qualifying on the same amount of points too.
 

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We are so good at aimlessly passing the ball around. Our end product is non existing
It's actually a bit cowardly I think. Serbia played very disciplined and deep, but whenever we got the chance to break on them we just stopped to recycle possession. We can't create chances.
 

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Imagine if your national team was an underdog who just goes mental and goes for it every match with loads of passion. Causing mayhem.

You'd probably get knocked out a bit earlier but god that would be great.

Turkey around 2008.
 

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I might be wrong but I think they’re almost certainly through as one of the best third place teams. Turkey would have to get a result against Portugal or something like that to eliminate them.
Nah they are officially through. Croatia are out and they have a better GD than Hungary
 

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Palmer, Mainoo and even Gordon need to start the next game. England looked much better when they came on. But still so pedestrian. Imagine Southgate got the job with us. glad ETH stayed
 
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England were crap.

Better second half but Slovenia just came to park the bus that half and England still created virtually nothing.
 

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Meh.... Both games goalless. Hoped for a rematch of the Euro 2021 knockout match in Wembley.
Denmark is a boring and probably even harder draw, you can only lose in such games.
 

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Surely the team that ended the game for England starts in the next one? Bar Trent for Walker of course given it's the Dutch right?
Bloody hope so. The clown in charge might just have landed by pure luck on the correct team.
 

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I might be wrong but I think they’re almost certainly through as one of the best third place teams. Turkey would have to get a result against Portugal or something like that to eliminate them.
They are through. Doesn't matter what happens elsewhere.
 

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Kane saying they played much better than the last 2 games. Hardly
 

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I might be wrong but I think they’re almost certainly through as one of the best third place teams. Turkey would have to get a result against Portugal or something like that to eliminate them.
They are already through. More points than Croatia and better GD than Hungary.
 

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GROUP C FINAL STANDINGSpublished at 21:56
21:56


FT: England 0-0 Slovenia

England go through as group winners.

Denmark finish second with Slovenia third - both sides go through.

They finished level on points, goal difference, goals scored and disciplinary record (6-6 on yellow cards).

The next tie breaker was who had the best qualifying record - and Denmark finished above Slovenia - coincidentally in the same qualifying group - on head-to-head record, after both sides finished qualifying on the same amount of points too.
Lucky for Slovenia, they avoid Germany.
 

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My goodness are England shite. At this stage I don’t want Southgate ruining Mainoo, an early exit in the round of 16 please.
 

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It's not a free pass but it's also not the end of the world.

This insane overreacting to everything about the England team is what heaps the pressure on generation after generation of talent.
I doubt it’s much more overreacting than other ‘top’ nations who are expected to go far.
 

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We’ve won the group scoring only 2 goals, not inspiring. 2nd half was a little better, we controlled the game without really looking like scoring. Mainoo was good when he came on and I think Gordon should have come on sooner. Will need to be able to up our game to progress from these stages now.
 

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It's not a free pass but it's also not the end of the world.

This insane overreacting to everything about the England team is what heaps the pressure on generation after generation of talent.
I always find this a strange view personally.

Do you imagine the scrutiny is any less in Brazil or Argentina during a tournament? Or Italy or Spain?

We are just a country that cares a lot about football.
 

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Unsurprisingly Mainoo is our best midfield option. Not that it was particularly hard to establish…
 

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2010 Group Stage England vibe, just willfully hideous.
Harry Kane in Heskey’s role, minus the stepovers.

Bellingham should play up top, Foden in the 10, Gordon wide left, Palmer wide right, Mainoo - Rice pivot.

Saka looks knackered, Kane is extremely overrated.
 

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Yeah, shocking really. Instead of going for a winner and finishing 1st in the group you were holding on.
It's been a theme for this side. Way to often prefer to take an extra pass instead of going for goal.
 

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I'd take Trent over Trippier but dont think it'll make too much difference.
Based on that cameo no thanks. Hollywood ball to nobody, hospital pass to Mainoo. Shirks a 50-50 challenge like an absolute coward. Overrated as feck.