The interviewed needed to just say "cry more".
Is Pep the greatest manager of all time?
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Such a sore loser
What a vile thourally dislikable man he is, he refused to give us any credit in his post match interview.
He always looks like he is high on drugs as well.
He always looks like he is high on drugs as well.
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Why quote me, if your answer doesn't relate to what I'm saying?
Looks like he's had a few curries lately.
Who was that guy all over Pep consoling him when giving out the losers medals, was it some city rep or someone part of the FA?
Anyway, what a bitter guy, desperate for anything from the refs, bent and crooked as they come, he fits very well with what they are as a state lottery cheater. Couldn't believe what I was seeing from Pep in the second minute appealing like some fat waiter.
Who was that guy all over Pep consoling him when giving out the losers medals, was it some city rep or someone part of the FA?
Anyway, what a bitter guy, desperate for anything from the refs, bent and crooked as they come, he fits very well with what they are as a state lottery cheater. Couldn't believe what I was seeing from Pep in the second minute appealing like some fat waiter.
Not called Peptide Pep for no reason
Anything will be held against him if you are determined enough
When he was at Barcelona it was that he can't survive outside LA Masia ecosystem
Let him come and prove himself in England, now he's dominating England the goalpost has shifted
He will need GLP1 Peptides by the looks of it.
Bit salty, but congratulated us. Meh
Khaldoon I think
Makes sense being on the other side of Sir Jim
Yes that's the guy, makes sense then
What I said in the quoted post is that things are held against the goat claim not the person, and that any goat claim for any manager would have to face the respective managers shortcomings. More something to do with the idiocy of goat claims than anything else. There is no goat.
City were never winning this game with Pep in a suit. That looked odd enough.
First defeat for him in domestic final in England so great that we've managed it.
First defeat for him in domestic final in England so great that we've managed it.
Absolutely. They looked uncharacteristically bad. But we performed fantastically, it’s probably the best we’ve played all season.
Yeah, highlight of the season (followed by 4-3 win vs Liverpool). Not many good moments other than that.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but is this only 2nd time Pep lost a domestic cup final, first being 1-0 defeat to Real Madrid in extra time back ni 2011? Also only lost another final vs Chelsea in 2021 CL final.
This is his first domestic cup final loss in England.
When was the last domestic cup final loss for City? 2015?
In England definitely, just not sure has he lost in Spain and Germany other than that time in 2011.
City's last loss in domestic cup final was 2013 vs Wigan.
I looked it up on Wikipedia and it turns out that this is indeed Pep’s first domestic cup final loss since 2011.
First time I've seen him pout after a loss , he's a bit like Klopp never gives the other side credit.
The players had more respect than him, just goes to show how that place is run...
Sore loser after winning everything..
The players had more respect than him, just goes to show how that place is run...
Sore loser after winning everything..
He's a classless dickhead.
Asked if he feels United were the better team, he shakes his head and says “No.” He goes on to explain that it was simply a case of City not taking their chances.
Anyone seen a clip of this bit that can be shared. Absolutely loved it, reminded me of Kevin
Keegan.
Dry em
Anyone seen a clip of this bit that can be shared. Absolutely loved it, reminded me of Kevin
Keegan.
Dry em
On fraud watch after yesterday.
Between 54th and 64th minute they had 3 big chances: Haaland hitting the bar, Onana saving Walker's long range shot and Alvarez missing that big chance. But other than that period I think we didn't let them many chances. And the way they (and we) played first half, we deserved the win yesterday.Asked if he feels United were the better team, he shakes his head and says “No.” He goes on to explain that it was simply a case of City not taking their chances.
Anyone seen a clip of this bit that can be shared. Absolutely loved it, reminded me of Kevin
Keegan.
Dry em
I know mate, watched the game yesterday . The response I quoted made me laugh so much this morning when I was watching the reply that I would like for posterity!!
Have a good one
Wasn't looking very trim yesterday. His suit was looking pretty tight on him.
Classless in defeat of course.
Classless in defeat of course.
Such a bitter prick in that after match interview. Couldn't be honest and say the best team on the day won.
After our fantastic FA Cup win it further cemented my mind that Pep is the most over rated Manger of all time.
Imo the most defensive minded Manger out there. How do you have 72% possesion and only have 5 shots on net. We had 28% possession and managed 6. I don't buy that we parked the bus or had a low block or whatever their excuse is and that's why. Let's face it Pep's team passes the ball around until they can pick the perfect pass to finally get that shot on net. Backwards and sideways are more the norm then forward. For every pass forward there is 10 sideways and back.
But how effective is that tactic when you have less shots on net and 72% possesion? Seems like it's defensive. Alot of Time wasting in there. Add to that that you need all the best players in the world and you got to wonder, is Pep really that great of a manager?
Imo the most defensive minded Manger out there. How do you have 72% possesion and only have 5 shots on net. We had 28% possession and managed 6. I don't buy that we parked the bus or had a low block or whatever their excuse is and that's why. Let's face it Pep's team passes the ball around until they can pick the perfect pass to finally get that shot on net. Backwards and sideways are more the norm then forward. For every pass forward there is 10 sideways and back.
But how effective is that tactic when you have less shots on net and 72% possesion? Seems like it's defensive. Alot of Time wasting in there. Add to that that you need all the best players in the world and you got to wonder, is Pep really that great of a manager?
I'd hate it if my team played like that. There's no risk, no excitement.
He buys the best players in the world so of course they're going to dominate. But it's just so dull.
I think that's it exactly. Because he has such good players at his disposal in every position, with backups just as capable he can play his same old same old. Plan A. Which is dominate possesion. (How can you not dominate possesion when you have always had the best team and players) Keep passing the ball around until their is a opening or the opponent makes a mistake.
Dull boring defensive football. So agree. I've said this many times.
I dont think that is such a bad thing.
Sir Alex is the best manager of all time.
He's done both tasks of getting an underdog punching almost comically above their weight and setting/maintaining the standards at a juggernaut.
Pep has only done 1 of those.
He's done both tasks of getting an underdog punching almost comically above their weight and setting/maintaining the standards at a juggernaut.
Pep has only done 1 of those.
When were united underdogs?
I assume he is referring to Aberdeen.
I just feel like if he's the best ever, I should enjoy watching his teams play more than I do.
There is of course no objective best ever. Football management has way too many variants and different approaches to how to do the job. The requirements and job descriptions are different from country to country. What different cultures and clubs prioritze and look at varies greatly also. That's not even getting into the specific conditions of each era. Management and coaching are abstract and rely on a lot of things that can't be measured concretely. Trophies and statistics are reliant on so many other factors than the quality of the manager alone.
Having said that, there are people who have done things that stand out. For me, what makes something stand out is its rarity and uniquness. I don't think what Fergie did with Aberdeen stands out because there have been others who have done incredible things with an underdog. But what Fergie did that is unique and makes him sit deservedly as one of the all time greats is the consistency of winning and skill to adapt through different eras as well as building a monster of a club from a very low point. That is very rare indeed and to me qualifies him to sit at the VIP table. Others who I think have done things nobody has are Rinus Michels, Sacchi, Cruyff and Pep. I might be missing some names but the one common denominator between these people in the legacy they left. We can spend the whole day pointing out what they haven't done or how they had condition X or Y that helped them but the facts remains to me that they are or will be spoken about decades from now as one offs, and that makes them in the list of 5 to 10 GOATS in my opinion in no specific order.
Why is he considered a success at City? Like they don't want him to ever leave. League win is expected with that squad. Only one CL in 8 seasons and choking so many times shouldn't be viewed as a success. No CL with a super Bayern team either.
City didn’t have anywhere near this level of dominance with Mancini and Pellegrini.
League win is expected with that squad because of him.
Hard to say, he's the best league manager ever that's a fact. The way he set up teams, the control and style they have is top top class. I don't think there's a manager that stamps his fingerprints onto teams more than him, he's totally world-class.
Now he did manage a great generation of players at barca, possibly the best midfield ever assembled and he had the goat at his peak so hard to say if it was him, the players or a combination of both.
On Bayern he did what every other manager had done, won everything domestically but failed in Europe. At city he's been impressive locally but again in Europe just one title. With a squad that plastic as feck, with loads of dirty money injected and probably the greatest/more clomplete squad in football.
Looking back at titles league wise there's no one who comes close, but there will always be that stink of city's dirty money on him. Is yet to be seen if he can have success on a team without injecting loads and loads of money.
Now he did manage a great generation of players at barca, possibly the best midfield ever assembled and he had the goat at his peak so hard to say if it was him, the players or a combination of both.
On Bayern he did what every other manager had done, won everything domestically but failed in Europe. At city he's been impressive locally but again in Europe just one title. With a squad that plastic as feck, with loads of dirty money injected and probably the greatest/more clomplete squad in football.
Looking back at titles league wise there's no one who comes close, but there will always be that stink of city's dirty money on him. Is yet to be seen if he can have success on a team without injecting loads and loads of money.
To be fair to him nobody won that many BL titles in a row before, not even with Bayern. Usually Bayern won one or two titles and then somebody else won the next. Always somebody else, between 2003 and 2013 (the decade before he arrived) we saw Bremen, Stuttgart, Wolfsburg and Dortmund (2x) win the league. Not dropping a level in the league was new and special. Although I fully agree on him failing in Europe with them.
Not referring to Utd.
Best manager*
*Means it can change anytime depending on the 115 charges outcome
*Means it can change anytime depending on the 115 charges outcome