Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
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surely we have to put a sell-on clause in for Greenwood if he goes for free?
Probably won’t due to the media backlash it would cause.
I'd just take the backlash to put the sell-on in there, he's already never going to play for us again, Lazio are literally getting a £100m talent for free.
this deal was done ages ago. they are just pretending to drag it out till transfer window closes for shits and giggles, and a nice day trip in florence.
I can't see any team in England or even Barca/Real/Bayern ever going back in for Mason. Don't see him being traded for 100 million ever.
Why would Lazio agree to that?
Because we can still say 'no-deal' as he's still under contract. Another club will take him at some stage and will accept a sell-on clause. It's not like we can't get rid in January. If they want him for free, then they agree to a reasonable sell-on clause.
You’d like to think so but football is a horrible and grotty business, it can’t be ruled out sadly.
And we let go a 100m talent. It was clear the moment they decided to let him go, that this will be a huge financial loss if they turn the back on him. And I'm fine with it.
No need to try and milk it somehow.
Why would there be a backlash for a sell-on clause for Greenwood? Would there be a backlash if we take a fee for him now? I don't think so.
Of course there would be.
Only when it’s us. Nobody else would.
Then Club should just tell anybody who has a problem with this politely to shut the feck up and do one .
That makes a lot of sense, for the club to try to solve it this way - to agree to a transfer 'for free' but with a sell-on clause.
It would be weird and arguably inappropriate to demand a transfer fee for him now, since we publicly stated that club and player are parting ways, but it seems only fair to have a sell-on clause if a future club were then to profit from his sale.
And this suggests that if the above solution doesn't come to fruition before relevant registration windows close, the club will agree to dissolve the contract, meaning he can sign anywhere as a free agent (but we have no sell-on clause).
Else he would be restricted to sign for a Saudi club or such in the next couple of weeks.
Thought all along this would be the tactic for any suitors. May have been different if multiple clubs wanted him but that does not seem to be the case. They will wait it out until he is a free agent then snatch him up. Saudi's too.
Why would Lazio accept a sell on clause when they have no need to?
At this point, we are the club who desperately want to get rid of him and free his wages off the books. We have no bargaining power in this situation because it’s not like clubs are queuing up to take him and the window closes today for most leagues. The best result we might get is a club agrees to take him on a free before the window closes and Greenwood agrees to go there.
At this point, we are the club who desperately want to get rid of him and free his wages off the books. We have no bargaining power in this situation because it’s not like clubs are queuing up to take him and the window closes today for most leagues. The best result we might get is a club agrees to take him on a free before the window closes and Greenwood agrees to go there.
I think people are forgetting that Greenwood is a player with world class potential! In 6 months time the drama will have subsided and whoever picks him up will potentially have a £100 million plus asset on their hands! Clubs are obviously reluctant to be the club to make the first move but mark my words in a year or so many clubs will be after him (if he can rediscover his form)
We would be stupid not to insert a clause and Lazio would happily accept knowing how much they can make out of the transaction
Yeah if he fulfills his potential then he will easily get clubs after him in a year.
It almost seems people want him just to retire instead of rehabilitate. Jeez is one extra judicial punishment not enough. There's principle of double jeopardy even in law.
And u can quote this post in about a year or two United will be biggest losers in this saga and rightly so for their buckling to lunch mob and making his family suffer also shifting to new place.
and Lazio would be even more stupid to agree to a sell on clause!
We could ask for one and all they have to say is ‘nah… you keep him then’, knowing full well we would then have to pay off his contract which will cost us just under £8m.
That’s why we are desperate to get rid and why we aren’t in a position to be demanding anything when we don’t have multiple clubs wanting to sign him.
Yuck!
We have no idea how many clubs are in for him.
If Lazio get a 100m for free, United have to agree to that. Not sure why they’d put up a fight if we included a 30% sell on and risk fecking up the deal. If he never manages to fulfill his potential, so what, if he does they might be selling a “reformed grown man” for 100m in just 36 months and making 70m off the deal.
Not at all sure why’d they’d drag their feet, feels like a more than fecking fair deal
It's just continuous 'two minutes of hate'. People are basically eliding what has been proved (various behavioural issues, being a crap, unfaithful BF), with what has been cast into doubt (evidence regarding criminal offences, offences which both CPS and club have indicated new evidence indicates he's likely innocent of or at least that the cumulative evidence wouldn't be strong enough to make any conviction feasible).
Instead of having a conversation about how he can make amends for things he's actually admitted to or which everyone agrees he's done, as well as conditions for reintegration - a conversation that would involve nuance - its' easier just to 'other' him and indicate virtue. Not an original insight, but a lot of this is the structure of social media, particularly as people take very legitimate concerns 'times-up/me too' and use them to build bolster brands, in the case of politicians/media figures: there are serious, and very progressive/left-wing feminists who have talked about this, so it's not just 'some randoms opinion'.
Anyway, if he makes it to Italy, and engages with whatever support he needs in terms of psych/emotional management as well as keeping his head down and recovering his form, I think in 18 months this is nearly forgotten. I would like to learn about what the new evidence entails, but I suspect it involves messy details of their relationship which both parties would rather not make public unless absolutely necessary....
Our approach to transfers emblematises how badly we are run as a football club. It is borderline embarrassing how previous years of impulse buying (due to not having any structure) have us capped under FPP regulations necessitating a series of stop-gap loan deals. The reason we lack proper squad depth is partly due to an absence of forward planning and structure. We’ll be part of this nauseating vicious cycle until the Glazers leave.
From great hopes for a new non-Glazer era to Mount, Reguilon, Evans and Bayindir ....brutal
This is such a weird take.
Apart from Anana, this has been one of, if not the most underwhelming transfer windows of the decade. The players you listed could easily be signing for a mid-lower table PL club.
We've signed 3/4 first team players - shifted loads of squad players, expect more, sure. But it's been fine?
Because people still don’t quite understand that we have no money and that Evans is likely coming here as an emergency backup and not much more.
Still, rival fans and the media will use it as a stick to beat us with.
For the most part we shouldn’t really give a feck. If we are going to moan about transfers we should at least waste our energy on stuff that affects the first team.
I’m sure they didn’t want to pay Maguire off to leave, and refused to sell McT because the club didn’t receive any bids close to their 40-45m valuation.
They’ve not learned anything about football despite owning a football club for almost two decades. They probably still call it soccer.
Exactly
The arrival of Sergio Reguilón to Manchester United to cover the loss of Luke Shaw implies a departure in the same position.
Álvaro Fernández Carreras goes on loan to Granada. No purchase option.
Álvaro Fernández Carreras goes on loan to Granada. No purchase option.
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