They're polishing the big boot as we speak, ready to kick his arse out the Nou Camp doors. Poor Frenkie.
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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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What's their plan? kick him out on the way back over the Atlantic?
2100 pages is the magic number. But they say it can't be done.
Yes! Always happy to see a tweet from Helena. This is a done dealio. Barca are confident, Utd are confident and relaxed, get it done!
No love left for Frenkie in Barcelona. Time to smell the coffee now I guess.
I mean, it’s not a bad plan……
They're gonna load him into a supersize slingshot from the US in the vague direction of Old Trafford, pull it back and just hope for the best
Do Barca seem like they have a plan? In general?
Good old Manchester Costa coffee of course , none of that fancy Catalan stuff !
Sounds just as scary as Ben Bat over on Oxford Street!Never thought of that... he ain't gonna argue with Simon, not if he knows what's good for him anyway. I heard the last guy that messed with him ended up with no teeth and shattered kneecaps
Barca and Plan don't go into the same sentence.
Barca and wing it on the other hand
Ben Bat and his friend Barry the baseball bat? Or does he deviate from his name and utilise the help of Steve the sledgehammerSounds just as scary as Ben Bat over on Oxford Street!
I don't follow all of the drama and gossip, but surely it's inevitable that whatever figure FDJ is owed from Barca will eventually be settled, presumably with either United and Barca covering 50% each, or roughly 33% each and FDJ agree to taking a bit of the loss himself.
She also says in that tweet that Chelsea want him.
Hopefully pal. I’ll be there with my little dingy to get him on board on route the River Irwell by 7th August
He actually uses a machete but just as crazy as the infamous Tony Tongs!Ben Bat and his friend Barry the baseball bat? Or does he deviate from his name and utilise the help of Steve the sledgehammer
Chelsea will not get him, that’s for sure.
Absolutely. They can't even sign players they actually want.
This most be the most bizarre transfer-story ever. Not in my wildest dreams, could I possibly manage to conjure up a story like this
But the point I was trying to make was that we need alternatives for FDJ and maybe even further additions. I understand you asking for specific names and many have been mentioned in the thread. I don't know which profile the club is looking for but when FDJ has been identified, I am sure they can identify somebody else as well. They may be different to FDJ, maybe not as good. Honestly, I am fine with that. Everything is better than being passive trying to do the perfect transfer. Which the FDJ sage will never as it should be obvious to everybody by now that United isn't the players first choice. He'd be fine to come here when his first choice breaks down, but that isn't the same.
Mate, lets not act as if you weren't intelligent enough to know that this would be a different situation. If you have some sort of working team then of course you are in a different situation than we are today. In another thread somebody listed all the transfers of the last ten years, it got me thinking, imagine where we could be today if only the Di Maria transfer, Pogba and Schneiderlin had worked out really well, would have a great progressor in midfield, a great and busy conductor and a great RW. But they didn't work out. We are dire in midfield. Since around 3 years. At the end of last season we lost even more numbers. So we are short on quality and quantity. It isn't the time to be overly picky, better than what we have is at least a start. No one is asking to bring in 20 midfielders. But we could do with 2 or 3. But now we are doing feck all in the hope that one is coming in...
Surely - not getting fleeced is a prerequisite for any deal (i.e. Bissouma for 30 doesn't sound like fleeced to me), same with wages and contract length. Thats all factors we can influence and if we have such a hard on for FDJ, stay in the freaking opera or come back in January or next year but do something. If the budget is gone by now, get a loan, I don't care. But being passive is shit. Imagine the unthinkable, this transfer isn't going to happen, then we have to execute plan B but by then, other teams won't be able to get replacements, they are absolutely aware of how desperate we are - not a great outlook.
You may have misunderstood me, I didn't say "roll the dice and bring in any random player" - obviously it should be in cooperation with the coaching team to bring in a player the coach can get some use of. Me mentioning McGinn or Douglas Luiz was connected to seeing them play today, showing what I'd like to see in our team, some grit, tenacity, intensity - will FDJ bring this? No, probably not, well - thats my point, go for another midfielder, not necessarily instead of FDJ but parallel to him. A serious club should have some sort of recruiting strategy, if we don't have a list of alternatives ready by now, then it is more or less too late. But hopefully thats not the case. I'd even be fine if the club decides to switch to strikers or right backs or whatever is available. But stop being passive.
The original topic was me asking the club to fecking do something. Something not as passive as sitting on the majority of the summer budget and wait for something to happen in a soap opera. I haven't said a thing about displacing McFred. I may have mentioned that bringing in players better than them would be a net benefit already and that the fixation on the one saviour, this case FDJ, isn't a very good idea in my eyes. But I guess I simply have to accept that you know more about my intentions, hopefully that comes with Redcafe-experience so it strikes me too at some point.
Well english isn't my mother language so I won't start discussing what the word fixating means to me. Lets leave it at that.
Who is talking about going for average midfielders? Ask any neutral if he thinks who is the better player McGinn or Fred or McTominay. Of course we should go for better players that what we have but there is NO NECESSITY to skip several levels if it means we have to wait for a player (losing the complete pre-season) or even risk not getting him at all. As I said, you want to be pragmatic but the most pragmatic thing would be to execute plan B to make sure, ETH gets as much time to prepare as possible. Bring in a stop gap if ETH is so adamant on FDJ, try again in January or next year, it isn't like the squad is so great that we don't know where to invest. The worst thing we could do is sitting on the majority of budget hoping and being passive. I am quite shocked that so many seem so fine with it.
See, thats a point to debate about. I think, we could do with a few dependable players. I mean, you seem to share the distrust in McFred. But who is there after them? Nobody. Bringing in FDJ helps us in terms of peak quality, but we would still be low on numbers. My approach would be to not spent such a big chunk of the budget on just one player. Obviously I wouldn't go for Neves when his price tag is 60 million, but maybe bid 35 to 42, lets test it. I'd rather diversify the midfield, brings in numbers, makes it more robust and gives greater flexibility. If at some point we get to a point, where we have so many awesome attackers that we have to have a player who combines certain strengths to make room for an attacker, I am happy to talk, but right now, thats not the case.
Not going to jump through your hoops here, as I said, the point was that we have to have a Plan B. And if I would be in charge, and I consider it a good plan B, I'd have executed it probably 2 weeks ago. There are many names of potential alternatives in this thread, on youtube, reddit, if you are interested, I am sure you find them. It isn't like I am going to unearth some unknown gems from my living room.
Put him on a different plane to Manchester once the tour is over, and dress up people like they are his teammates
Chelsea can try, but where do they fit him in? Do they get rid of one of the guys they have in his position already?
We always get crazy transfer sagas like this one. I must agree though, this one got almost everything except for murder. At least not yet anyways.
Xavi telling him he has to leave? What bollocks. He’s been told daily by his club that he is not wanted. He knows he is leaving; he just wants his money first and nobody can make him leave without it.
Barca should just feck off and keep this shit to themselves. I’ve never known such a bunch of cnuts crying about being skint, treating contracted players like shit whilst boasting about their expensive new signings.
Barca should just feck off and keep this shit to themselves. I’ve never known such a bunch of cnuts crying about being skint, treating contracted players like shit whilst boasting about their expensive new signings.
Preach it brother.
Yep, no worries about Chelsea. He is ours.
The Caf has always had a weird obsession with McGinn - he's fecking shite 
serve some Paella and San Miguel on the plane, he’d never know the difference
Exactly what i was hinting at!!
Imagine Batca hijack and sign Kounde right out of Chelseas grasp and they reward them by putting in a huge offer on their player. Couldn't make that stuff up!
Pretty sure that Chelsea have bigger fish to fry than midfield atm
No they can’t, they can feck off! They gonna get gazumped twice in the same window by Barca then hand them millions?! Please take our money…..
I don’t disagree with much of what you say here so no use dissecting.
I will touch on the ‘do something’ part though in that I think we have at least addressed that partially at the coaching level. I do agree it would be nice to see moves elsewhere whilst we sort the FdJ situation though.
Ah, you have to love them.
I just couldn't see de Jong choosing Chelsea after all the effort United and ten Hag have put into this transfer. He obviously knows how much he's wanted here and he'll know he'd be the star man in the team with everything being built around him.No they can’t, they can feck off! They gonna get gazumped twice in the same window by Barca then hand them millions?! Please take our money…..
He knows already how much ten Hag values him and how he works etc, huge bonuses I'd say
Absolutely. It would be a weird flex to choose Chelsea now if they do launch a late bid. Would be a proper slap in the face for ten Hag.
It would, especially how we've put months of work into this. Plus you'd have to think that Ten Hag has already discussed the Chelsea links with him and again recieved the assurances he needs to continue
Being a chief muppet, of course I’d love if we signed FDJ.
But is anyone else concerned that we do get him but he ends up being shit? Ok bit harsh, but let’s say not as good as we expected.
I can’t say I’ve watched him that often at Barca. Watched a lot more of him at Ajax where he was brilliant in some very big games. The game away at Real Madrid really sticks out of him driving them to victory with a masterful CDM performance.
However he appears to have had a very underwhelming couple of years at Barca. Like we’ve seen with Coutinho who looked world class before he left Liverpool, he looks nowhere near what he used to be.
I have more hope in FDJ based on the fact that ETH was the manager who got his besT performances out of him. And truth be told he can’t really be worse than McFred.
But is anyone else concerned that we do get him but he ends up being shit? Ok bit harsh, but let’s say not as good as we expected.
I can’t say I’ve watched him that often at Barca. Watched a lot more of him at Ajax where he was brilliant in some very big games. The game away at Real Madrid really sticks out of him driving them to victory with a masterful CDM performance.
However he appears to have had a very underwhelming couple of years at Barca. Like we’ve seen with Coutinho who looked world class before he left Liverpool, he looks nowhere near what he used to be.
I have more hope in FDJ based on the fact that ETH was the manager who got his besT performances out of him. And truth be told he can’t really be worse than McFred.
I'm leaning towards him signing for Chelsea at this point, but I hope I'm wrong. Just feel like he desperately doesn't want to join us but is close to accepting that he'll have to leave Barca.
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