Coronavirus in football

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Is it mandatory for fans to be vaccinated to enter the stadium premises in the UK? how are players then exempted?
 

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most teams will get their players back next week so i dont see why the league must stop.

its been fair for all teams. stadiums are full as it should. the only thing that matters is the negative test to enter the stadiums and im so dissapointed in the bundesliga as i thought they had the protocols, the system to ask for the negative in the entrance.

after almost 2 years and it seems they dont get it, why are they playing in empty stadiums ? so ridiculous.

hats off to the english football. it has proved one more time it is the best league in the world.
Full stadiums and with it full busses and trains, but restrictions everywhere else?

I live in Baveria. All Xmas markets are postponed and there is vaccinated or recovered sometimes + additionally tested in about every non essential business. Mask everywhere anyways.

Unvaccinated you cannot shop in many shops, cannot get a haircut, eat out somewhere, need a daily test to go to work or use busses and trains...

On that background you want big crowds in stadiums?
 

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This is really disappointing if it is true that we have the lowest vaccination status in the country. We have the one of the highest wage bill too.

Not directly covid related but I can't help but feel there are be too many bad eggs in the squads causing bad influences on the players and not enough strong leaders to call them out. When Pogba first joined, and when Lingard was in the starting eleven, you can tell the immediate influence then on Rashford. It was almost like we are turning into the 90s Liverpool spice boys. I'm not saying Lingard and Pogba are causing bad influences now but you can tell how easily a young player can be influenced by more senior players.

Hopefully the new management sort this out. My hope is our next generation of youngster including Greenwood are more influenced by Ronaldo in terms of dedication and preparation for football.
 

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Yes, and being made harder doesn't guarantee them taking the vacinne.

Many establishment already did this soft enforcing but a good % of the population still choose to not getting one.

There's a difference with being "encouraged" and being "forced" to
I'm still not saying forced, not sure where you get that idea from. But I'm pretty sure if the players were put on unpaid leave, as is happening in my country for many workers, they'd quickly have second thoughts. Where I work we lost about 2% of the work force, not much of a loss to be honest, mainly feck heads who believe the crap they read on social media and shout down anyone who's done a bit of research.
 

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So the premier league are having an emergency meeting today to discuss wether or not to cancel the festive fixtures… but then where and how do we fit them all back in next year? We’ve got the CL, the fa cup and the world cup in the summer so they can’t extend the season. One option could be to cancel the Fa cup and play the games in hand on the weekends the fa cup would be on.
 

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I'm still not saying forced, not sure where you get that idea from. But I'm pretty sure if the players were put on unpaid leave, as is happening in my country for many workers, they'd quickly have second thoughts. Where I work we lost about 2% of the work force, not much of a loss to be honest, mainly feck heads who believe the crap they read on social media and shout down anyone who's done a bit of research.
Yes i get your point. But depending on where you reside you could ended up in lawsuit.

Say you're in a county that doesnt enforce mask (Republican state). Good luck with that.

Yes i think they're the bad guys and the enforcement is for the greater goods and again it's not my view but alas it happens.
 

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Will be interesting to see how UEFA will react if an European knock out match has to be cancelled because a team doesn't have enough players available due to many unvaccinated players.

I wouldn't be surprised, if the match would be counted as the loss for that team. This will put some pressure on clubs to ensure their players are vaccinated without forcing them.
 

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Is it mandatory for fans to be vaccinated to enter the stadium premises in the UK? how are players then exempted?
Not it isn’t. Fans need a “COVID pass” which can include proof of vaccination, or just a negative lateral flow test done a couple of days prior.
 

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Will be interesting to see how UEFA will react if an European knock out match has to be cancelled because a team doesn't have enough players available due to many unvaccinated players.

I wouldn't be surprised, if the match would be counted as the loss for that team. This will put some pressure on clubs to ensure their players are vaccinated without forcing them.
Spurs took the loss for the same reason so there is precedent now
 

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Any news about if the festive fixtures is on or ? I really hope we will play.
No news, but I would assume that they will all be cancelled and that we'll see a two week break (there's also a reasonable chance that the whole UK goes into lockdown for at least a few weeks sometime shortly after Christmas).
 

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The biggest thing aside from players, is to stop fans travelling all over the country and spreading and catching a highly contagious virus.
 

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Wasn't it rumoured that they were going to cancel the games Amazon Prime were showing at the end of the month, not the Boxing Day games. Bet they will be chuffed about that. Hope they decide quick so I can cancel my Amazon Prime trial.
 

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Great meeting.
Sounds like the broadcasters got their wish then. Limp through the lucrative Christmas period games with depleted squads and last-minute cancellations and then sack the whole thing off for a few weeks in January.
 

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Sounds like the broadcasters got their wish then. Limp through the lucrative Christmas period games with depleted squads and last-minute cancellations and then sack the whole thing off for a few weeks in January.
That's pretty much true for the whole UK in general, outside of football, as well, right?
 

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This is really disappointing if it is true that we have the lowest vaccination status in the country. We have the one of the highest wage bill too.

Not directly covid related but I can't help but feel there are be too many bad eggs in the squads causing bad influences on the players and not enough strong leaders to call them out. When Pogba first joined, and when Lingard was in the starting eleven, you can tell the immediate influence then on Rashford. It was almost like we are turning into the 90s Liverpool spice boys. I'm not saying Lingard and Pogba are causing bad influences now but you can tell how easily a young player can be influenced by more senior players.

Hopefully the new management sort this out. My hope is our next generation of youngster including Greenwood are more influenced by Ronaldo in terms of dedication and preparation for football.
How is Lingard seen as a bad influence? There’s many reports of him being a good influence in the dressing room. He looks after his sick parent at home, and his little sister rather than partying, and worked his bollox off on loan to prove himself
 

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I kind of like the idea that if you can get together 13, then play the match. It reminds me of amateur competitions and will probably make for a lot of unexpected results.
 

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Sounds like the broadcasters got their wish then. Limp through the lucrative Christmas period games with depleted squads and last-minute cancellations and then sack the whole thing off for a few weeks in January.
Just in time to cancel all fixtures so that the scousers don’t even end up playing any games whilst Mane and Salah are away for AFCON. You heard it here first….
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59732905

It had been expected that gameweek 20, starting on 28 December, would be postponed in order to ease the pressure on Premier League squads.

Instead, clubs have been advised if they have 13 fit players, plus a goalkeeper, they should fulfil their games.

There are however talks between clubs and authorities to scrap FA Cup replays in rounds three and four, and to reduce EFL Cup semi-final ties to one-leg matches.
 

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Good news. As it should be. Other leagues have it so you forfeit if you can't field enough players to play the game, "manage your own outbreak" mentality and to be honest, I like that. feck the teams who can't get their shit together, others shouldn't be punished. By all accounts we are one of the worst for this, but I'd still be in full support of us getting punished for having such a bad vaccination rate.

But if you can scrape together enough players for a starting 11 and some subs, then you're fine.
 

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So the premier league are having an emergency meeting today to discuss wether or not to cancel the festive fixtures… but then where and how do we fit them all back in next year? We’ve got the CL, the fa cup and the world cup in the summer so they can’t extend the season. One option could be to cancel the Fa cup and play the games in hand on the weekends the fa cup would be on.
World cup is being held in the winter.
 

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Good news. As it should be. Other leagues have it so you forfeit if you can't field enough players to play the game, "manage your own outbreak" mentality and to be honest, I like that. feck the teams who can't get their shit together, others shouldn't be punished. By all accounts we are one of the worst for this, but I'd still be in full support of us getting punished for having such a bad vaccination rate.

But if you can scrape together enough players for a starting 11 and some subs, then you're fine.
I fully agree. It punishes teams who don't vaccinate. If a team can't get its sh%t together, the teams who can shouldn't be penalized.
 

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Doesn't surprise me, January is when cases will shoot through the roof because of Christmas and New Year socialising. Suspending now would have been pointless to resume in the worst of it.
 

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13 fit players :lol: I mean, I never had a strong opinion on the whole situation given that there are far more important problems in society with the current Covid wave but this is still hilarious. Next three weeks are going to be absolute carnage, gladiator style competition.

One thing is clear, the underlying message for the clubs is to be absolute brutal with regards to running their bubble regime. No more hanging out with mates and having every random club staff, agents and whatever chilling with the squad in the club facilities, instead it'll be like spring 2020 again.
 

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Good news. As it should be. Other leagues have it so you forfeit if you can't field enough players to play the game, "manage your own outbreak" mentality and to be honest, I like that. feck the teams who can't get their shit together, others shouldn't be punished. By all accounts we are one of the worst for this, but I'd still be in full support of us getting punished for having such a bad vaccination rate.

But if you can scrape together enough players for a starting 11 and some subs, then you're fine.
Couldn't you have a fully vaccinated side but still have a couple of players with covid and an injury crisis at the club leading to a possibly forfeit which isn't really a team not having their shit together...?
 

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Couldn't you have a fully vaccinated side but still have a couple of players with covid and an injury crisis at the club leading to a possibly forfeit which isn't really a team not having their shit together...?
Teams don't get matches postponed for a bad injury crisis though? They're still forced to play on. Use your u21 players, use youth players. That's why a team should be prepared for an injury crisis with a squad. Don't think it's quite possible to have an injury crisis so bad that you can't string together a 14 man squad between the main and the reserve team, the only that that spreads like that is covid among the unvaccinated. It spreads among the vaccinated too, just nowhere near as much.
 

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Good news. As it should be. Other leagues have it so you forfeit if you can't field enough players to play the game, "manage your own outbreak" mentality and to be honest, I like that. feck the teams who can't get their shit together, others shouldn't be punished. By all accounts we are one of the worst for this, but I'd still be in full support of us getting punished for having such a bad vaccination rate.

But if you can scrape together enough players for a starting 11 and some subs, then you're fine.
Agreed. It’s no surprise that the clubs with no cancellations who’ve had their houses in order and who have high vaccination rates are city and Liverpool. They’re just better than everyone at everything and it comes down to leadership and professionalism. Hardly a surprise to see us at the bottom with our bunch of unprofessional chumps. I really hope moving forward Rangnick changes the mentality of the players we have at this club.
 
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Agreed. It’s no surprise that the clubs with no cancellations who’ve had their houses in order and who have high vaccination rates are city and Liverpool. They’re just better than everyone at everything and it comes down to leadership and professionalism. Hardly a surprise to see us at the bottom with our bunch of unprofessional chumps. I really hope moving forward Rangnick changes the mentality of the players we have at this club.
Where's the list?
 

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It's still going to end up behind closed doors. Would rather the games were off. Horrible shite.