Is it mandatory for fans to be vaccinated to enter the stadium premises in the UK? how are players then exempted?
Coronavirus in football
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Full stadiums and with it full busses and trains, but restrictions everywhere else?
I live in Baveria. All Xmas markets are postponed and there is vaccinated or recovered sometimes + additionally tested in about every non essential business. Mask everywhere anyways.
Unvaccinated you cannot shop in many shops, cannot get a haircut, eat out somewhere, need a daily test to go to work or use busses and trains...
On that background you want big crowds in stadiums?
This is really disappointing if it is true that we have the lowest vaccination status in the country. We have the one of the highest wage bill too.
Not directly covid related but I can't help but feel there are be too many bad eggs in the squads causing bad influences on the players and not enough strong leaders to call them out. When Pogba first joined, and when Lingard was in the starting eleven, you can tell the immediate influence then on Rashford. It was almost like we are turning into the 90s Liverpool spice boys. I'm not saying Lingard and Pogba are causing bad influences now but you can tell how easily a young player can be influenced by more senior players.
Hopefully the new management sort this out. My hope is our next generation of youngster including Greenwood are more influenced by Ronaldo in terms of dedication and preparation for football.
Not directly covid related but I can't help but feel there are be too many bad eggs in the squads causing bad influences on the players and not enough strong leaders to call them out. When Pogba first joined, and when Lingard was in the starting eleven, you can tell the immediate influence then on Rashford. It was almost like we are turning into the 90s Liverpool spice boys. I'm not saying Lingard and Pogba are causing bad influences now but you can tell how easily a young player can be influenced by more senior players.
Hopefully the new management sort this out. My hope is our next generation of youngster including Greenwood are more influenced by Ronaldo in terms of dedication and preparation for football.
I'm still not saying forced, not sure where you get that idea from. But I'm pretty sure if the players were put on unpaid leave, as is happening in my country for many workers, they'd quickly have second thoughts. Where I work we lost about 2% of the work force, not much of a loss to be honest, mainly feck heads who believe the crap they read on social media and shout down anyone who's done a bit of research.
So the premier league are having an emergency meeting today to discuss wether or not to cancel the festive fixtures… but then where and how do we fit them all back in next year? We’ve got the CL, the fa cup and the world cup in the summer so they can’t extend the season. One option could be to cancel the Fa cup and play the games in hand on the weekends the fa cup would be on.
Yes i get your point. But depending on where you reside you could ended up in lawsuit.
Say you're in a county that doesnt enforce mask (Republican state). Good luck with that.
Yes i think they're the bad guys and the enforcement is for the greater goods and again it's not my view but alas it happens.
No, you can also attend if you can show a negative lateral flow.
Which is then giving some an excuse not to have the vaccine.
Will be interesting to see how UEFA will react if an European knock out match has to be cancelled because a team doesn't have enough players available due to many unvaccinated players.
I wouldn't be surprised, if the match would be counted as the loss for that team. This will put some pressure on clubs to ensure their players are vaccinated without forcing them.
I wouldn't be surprised, if the match would be counted as the loss for that team. This will put some pressure on clubs to ensure their players are vaccinated without forcing them.
Not it isn’t. Fans need a “COVID pass” which can include proof of vaccination, or just a negative lateral flow test done a couple of days prior.
It’s all been very quiet on man united
we used to be the leakiest club in the league
very few details forthcoming atm
Which could be good
we used to be the leakiest club in the league
very few details forthcoming atm
Which could be good
Spurs took the loss for the same reason so there is precedent now
I got it over the weekend. Stuck to the bed now shivering away. Gross. Terrible timing.
Any news about if the festive fixtures is on or ? I really hope we will play.
Meeting is delayed, Klopp is still bleaching his hands after touching a chair at Spurs yesterday.
No news, but I would assume that they will all be cancelled and that we'll see a two week break (there's also a reasonable chance that the whole UK goes into lockdown for at least a few weeks sometime shortly after Christmas).
The biggest thing aside from players, is to stop fans travelling all over the country and spreading and catching a highly contagious virus.
Seem to be reading that quite a lot on here recently, could be true about Bill Gates and the vaccines. Get well soon mate.
They need to make a decision soon regarding the Boxing Day fixtures.
Wasn't it rumoured that they were going to cancel the games Amazon Prime were showing at the end of the month, not the Boxing Day games. Bet they will be chuffed about that. Hope they decide quick so I can cancel my Amazon Prime trial.
Great meeting.
Sounds like the broadcasters got their wish then. Limp through the lucrative Christmas period games with depleted squads and last-minute cancellations and then sack the whole thing off for a few weeks in January.
That's pretty much true for the whole UK in general, outside of football, as well, right?
How is Lingard seen as a bad influence? There’s many reports of him being a good influence in the dressing room. He looks after his sick parent at home, and his little sister rather than partying, and worked his bollox off on loan to prove himself
I kind of like the idea that if you can get together 13, then play the match. It reminds me of amateur competitions and will probably make for a lot of unexpected results.
Just in time to cancel all fixtures so that the scousers don’t even end up playing any games whilst Mane and Salah are away for AFCON. You heard it here first….
Good news. As it should be. Other leagues have it so you forfeit if you can't field enough players to play the game, "manage your own outbreak" mentality and to be honest, I like that. feck the teams who can't get their shit together, others shouldn't be punished. By all accounts we are one of the worst for this, but I'd still be in full support of us getting punished for having such a bad vaccination rate.
But if you can scrape together enough players for a starting 11 and some subs, then you're fine.
But if you can scrape together enough players for a starting 11 and some subs, then you're fine.
World cup is being held in the winter.
I fully agree. It punishes teams who don't vaccinate. If a team can't get its sh%t together, the teams who can shouldn't be penalized.
Doesn't surprise me, January is when cases will shoot through the roof because of Christmas and New Year socialising. Suspending now would have been pointless to resume in the worst of it.
13 fit players 
I mean, I never had a strong opinion on the whole situation given that there are far more important problems in society with the current Covid wave but this is still hilarious. Next three weeks are going to be absolute carnage, gladiator style competition.
One thing is clear, the underlying message for the clubs is to be absolute brutal with regards to running their bubble regime. No more hanging out with mates and having every random club staff, agents and whatever chilling with the squad in the club facilities, instead it'll be like spring 2020 again.
I mean, I never had a strong opinion on the whole situation given that there are far more important problems in society with the current Covid wave but this is still hilarious. Next three weeks are going to be absolute carnage, gladiator style competition.One thing is clear, the underlying message for the clubs is to be absolute brutal with regards to running their bubble regime. No more hanging out with mates and having every random club staff, agents and whatever chilling with the squad in the club facilities, instead it'll be like spring 2020 again.
Couldn't you have a fully vaccinated side but still have a couple of players with covid and an injury crisis at the club leading to a possibly forfeit which isn't really a team not having their shit together...?
Teams don't get matches postponed for a bad injury crisis though? They're still forced to play on. Use your u21 players, use youth players. That's why a team should be prepared for an injury crisis with a squad. Don't think it's quite possible to have an injury crisis so bad that you can't string together a 14 man squad between the main and the reserve team, the only that that spreads like that is covid among the unvaccinated. It spreads among the vaccinated too, just nowhere near as much.
Agreed. It’s no surprise that the clubs with no cancellations who’ve had their houses in order and who have high vaccination rates are city and Liverpool. They’re just better than everyone at everything and it comes down to leadership and professionalism. Hardly a surprise to see us at the bottom with our bunch of unprofessional chumps. I really hope moving forward Rangnick changes the mentality of the players we have at this club.
Where's the list?
A majority of the clubs were in favour
It's still going to end up behind closed doors. Would rather the games were off. Horrible shite.
The combination of covid cases and injury crisis could lead to a team not having 13 fit players in their registered 25 man squad, no? There isn't much clarity in the article about whether it's 13 fit players in the club or the senior side. It's why us and Leeds have become reduced to playing a side of seniors mixed with our U23/U18 side. There were a group of me and 9 friends that were fully vaxed that met 2 weeks ago. 7/10 of us have covid now so I don't think it's just a case of being unvaccinated. I don't necessarily disagree with you by the way.
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