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DDG
Bailly-----New CB------Rojo
Valencia------Herrera-----Fabinho----Pogba-----Rose/Mendy
Griezmann-----New striker/Rashford or Martial
 
Serious question - how do we get Fabinho, Herrera, Pogba and Greizmann into the same side, without playing Griezmann as lone striker (because he won't)?

Is Greizmann destined to be our winger, is herrera going to lose his place, will we swap formation? Or will we simply rotate Fabinho in for tougher games (4:3:3 with AG on the wing), and play Griezmann as a second striker in the easier games?

Just wondering what our honest to god strongest 11 is if AG and Fabinho both come off? Again, without having AG as a mourinho lone striker
There are a few ways, this one being my favourite: 4312 on paper/Defending looks like this.

Lukaku - Griezmann
Mkhitaryan
Pogba - Fabinho - Herrera
LB - Rojo - Bailly - Valencia
DDG​
When attacking looks like a 3412

Lukaku - Griezmann
Mkhitaryan
LB/Shaw - Pogba - Herrera - Valencia
Rojo - Fabinho - Bailly
DDG​
 
Crazy so many people suggesting a formation without Herrera.

Edited for atrocious sarcasm on my part.
 
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selling 3-4 players is not the end of the world. They could reject it too, they have talented replacements ready to take over.
If ya listen to reports Sidibe, Mendy, Bakayoko, Fabinho, Lemar, Silva and Mbappe will all be going but tbh it was in jest.
 
Herrera is definitely overrated by some, but that's for another thread. Fabinho would be the ideal midfield signing.
 
Belotti
Mkhitaryan - Griezmann
Pogba - Fabinho - Herrera
Perisic-Rojo-Bailly-Valencia
De gea

Romero
Shaw
Keane
Carrick
Fellaini
Martial
Rashford

Then the yout'
 
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Herrera is definitely overrated by some, but that's for another thread. Fabinho would be the ideal midfield signing.

I don't know if Herrera is overrated. He's one of our best players who has grown in quality and leadership over the past 12 months. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that Barca are after him following his work this year.

As for Fabinho - agreed 100%. He would allow both Herrera and Pogba to be a bit more forward leaning, which will pay off massively if we get Griezmann and the like.
 
Herrera is definitely overrated by some, but that's for another thread. Fabinho would be the ideal midfield signing.
I've tended to think so too, when I look at the calibre of midfielders at Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern and PSG, Herrera would struggle to get into their team. That said, Fabinho and Herrera can both play in a 433, behind Pogba, and that would ideal if it would allow us to unleash Pogba into a free role.
 
Herrera is definitely overrated by some, but that's for another thread. Fabinho would be the ideal midfield signing.
Ok Ok... Fabinho would be a much better signing than Herrera? Herrera was our best player this season. If Fabinho is better we are in for a treat..
 
Belotti
Mkhitaryan - Griezmann
Pogba - Fabinho - Herrera
perisic-rojo-bailly-Valencia

Only Perisic is not a LB and never has been. You don't buy a new LW and first thing you do is convert him to LB. He might be utter crap in that position.
 
I've tended to think so too, when I look at the calibre of midfielders at Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern and PSG, Herrera would struggle to get into their team. That said, Fabinho and Herrera can both play in a 433, behind Pogba, and that would ideal if it would allow us to unleash Pogba into a free role.
Yeah I agree with this 100%.
 
Ok Ok... Fabinho would be a much better signing than Herrera? Herrera was our best player this season. If Fabinho is better we are in for a treat..
I didn't say Fabinho is better than Herrera, I just said that Herrera is overrated by some - that's all.
 
I don't know if Herrera is overrated. He's one of our best players who has grown in quality and leadership over the past 12 months. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that Barca are after him following his work this year.

As for Fabinho - agreed 100%. He would allow both Herrera and Pogba to be a bit more forward leaning, which will pay off massively if we get Griezmann and the like.
Yeah I agree with this. Herrera was great last season for us, but I sadly think he can't play any better than that, but I guess we'll see.
 
I've tended to think so too, when I look at the calibre of midfielders at Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern and PSG, Herrera would struggle to get into their team. That said, Fabinho and Herrera can both play in a 433, behind Pogba, and that would ideal if it would allow us to unleash Pogba into a free role.

That's one way to look at it. Another is that after De Gea and Pogba, if you were betting on which our players is likeliest to have a title-winning first XI level performance next year and be healthy enough to start 45 games, he'd be somewhere between #3-#6 along with Bailly Valencia and maybe Mkhitaryan. So, we likely have 5 more first choice players to sign before worrying about him (9, W, CM/DM, LB, LCB).
 
I've tended to think so too, when I look at the calibre of midfielders at Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern and PSG, Herrera would struggle to get into their team. That said, Fabinho and Herrera can both play in a 433, behind Pogba, and that would ideal if it would allow us to unleash Pogba into a free role.
I would argue that Herrera would start at Barca, potentially PSG and at a push maybe even Bayern.
 
I agree, did you mean "without" in your earlier post?
I think he meant that a lot of people have changed their tune since the start of the season. But, from what I can recall, the majority of posters on here really appreciated what Herrera brought to our team since he's put on a United shirt. It's not surprising at all to me for so many people to have him in our starting line up next season. He is class, and optimizes what every United fan wants their players to be.
 
I would argue that Herrera would start at Barca, potentially PSG and at a push maybe even Bayern.
Disagree with Bayern. Vidal is better than him.
Agreed with PSG. In a 433 he'd displace Matuidi
Agreed with Barca. Displaces Rakitic in a 433
 
Disagree with Bayern. Vidal is better than him.
Agreed with PSG. In a 433 he'd displace Matuidi
Agreed with Barca. Displaces Rakitic in a 433

Matuidi has no place and PSG would look for someone different. And he wouldn't displace Rakitic in anything.
 
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