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"a player who is reluctant to arrive at the club, and only with a hefty paycheck, whose every single action and quote can be interpreted as lacking interest and an apparent desire to move away from the club ASAP"
Sergio Ramos | Signs new 5 year contract
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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"a player who is reluctant to arrive at the club, and only with a hefty paycheck, whose every single action and quote can be interpreted as lacking interest and an apparent desire to move away from the club ASAP"
Yeah he should just turn on the autofilter and filter out those ones that don't want to join. Jesus
Eh? He has pretty repeatedly denied the rumors that he is leaving this summer?
BUT DON'T YOU REALISE HE WANTED TO GO TO PARIS. HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE I CAN JUST TELL BY HIS FACE.
and my favourite
IF YOU WATCH HIS 13 ASSISTS YOU'LL SEE THAT MOST OF THEM WERE ACCIDENTAL.
sorry for not making the ironic tone clearer to understand
Apology accepted. Dismissed.sorry for not making the ironic tone clearer to understand
I still just can't see this happening, just think it'll come out in the next couple of weeks that he's *Made up with Perez* and signed a new contract, any move to us seems so far fetched that I can't get excited over the speculation.
This is gonna rumble on and on, lets just get Otamendi and keep De Gea.
Some people opinion in Spain is :
Di Maria-bought by 30-sold by 75
Ozil-15 and sold by 45
Ramos,bought by 28 with 20 years and sold by 70? with 29.(According to As is the amount that United is willing to reach).An objective and less passional analysis considering that getting one of the best goalkeepers in the world+Otamendi/Koscielny +some benefit in cash is a great deal for Madrid.The next speech of pro board press will be "be careful Sergio,Ozil,Higuain and Di maria are so happy after leaving Madrid"
Di Maria-bought by 30-sold by 75
Ozil-15 and sold by 45
Ramos,bought by 28 with 20 years and sold by 70? with 29.(According to As is the amount that United is willing to reach).An objective and less passional analysis considering that getting one of the best goalkeepers in the world+Otamendi/Koscielny +some benefit in cash is a great deal for Madrid.The next speech of pro board press will be "be careful Sergio,Ozil,Higuain and Di maria are so happy after leaving Madrid"
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Agree.
Is anything truly in the bag until a player actually signs?
Ask Lewandowski. His deal was pretty much in the bag 1 1/2 years before he signed for Bayern on a free and not even Real could convince him to do otherwise. Some deals are done way before a player actually signs and I feel de Gea is the same case, he already made his decision it's now just about the money he can get on his contract and what Real is willing to pay if they want him this season.
What strikes me about this being artificially manufactured is the fact Ramos seems just oh so happy and motivated to quit the club all of a sudden, Ok... Madrid have gotten rid of a few stars in the past, Ozil, Di Maria, Makelele etc mostly over contractual issues but none of them were really itching to leave, more-so the fact they'd all have preffered to stay and get that deal from Real, leaving being the last resort.
And this coming from a Spanish born player? why would he want to leave what he would justify as the biggest club in the world, surely he'd be saying "Hey I want to stay but If I'm not offered what I'm worth I'll be forced to look elsewhere" Rather than the "Yea Man Utd are a huge club with great principles I'd love to play there!" approach.
And this coming from a Spanish born player? why would he want to leave what he would justify as the biggest club in the world, surely he'd be saying "Hey I want to stay but If I'm not offered what I'm worth I'll be forced to look elsewhere" Rather than the "Yea Man Utd are a huge club with great principles I'd love to play there!" approach.
Sold Higuain and Ozil to fund Bale
Sold Di Maria to find James
Sell Ramos to fund Aguero maybe?
Makes you think if Madrid have to sell to buy these days. Is their 600m euro debt really that crippling?
I was reading an article today which said if your name isnt Ronaldo you don't sign a contrast with a wage increase. You sign extensions with nothing little changes here and there. Pepe is 33 and supposedly paid (relatively speaking ) peanuts as well.
Maybe it's not all rosey in the Madrid financial garden.
Madrid has debt,as United but I don't think that is worrying while they keep the income.Unfortunately that pressure provokes a loop,needing to buy top stars to get advertising benefits.
Because he doesn't like the people he's working for. It's a hostile work environment. Things can change. He's only got so much left. Why "waste" what he's got unhappy? He's maybe been happy the whole season but didn't say anything because it would disrupt the team.
comments he made from 2013 before United v Madrid match in CL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-says-club-ideals-philosophy-Real-Madrid.html
basically he thinks that both are run along the same ideals. Seems like he does have a soft spot for United. I daresay Ronaldo has also spoken fondly of his time at United.
that being said, im tending to believe that he will end up signing a new contract. But, we should see it through to that conclusion if there is even the smallest chance of signing him
It was 600m using the total liabilities definition. If you used the same definition, United would have had a debt of 1 billion euros in 2012. Using the same definition that United's debt is worked out in (which was 350 million if remember correctly), Madrid's was around 150 million in 2012. There is a good article around which explains Madrid and Barcelona's situation in regards to debt. If I can find it I can post the link.
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Aye, sort it out Woody missing the "Filter out unrealistic targets" button is a schoolboy error.
Ed Woodward knows what his doing. No way we will buy Ramos. I think Ed's just making Real work for DDG.
or its all fabricated or allot of posturing. Either way I don't think Ramos is remotely interested in United, and I hope I'm right because he is fecking 29 already so his best years are behind him.
Don't care who we sign Ramos or Otamendi, prefer Ramos. But if hes making a circus out of it for a new contract at Madrid, so be it. Aslong as we get Otamendi.
Aye, sort it out Woody missing the "Filter out unrealistic targets" button is a schoolboy error.
Geebs made the FM reference without even realising it
I doubt anybody else will cough up E50m for Otamendi, so we can probably afford to let this roll for a few weeks. Who knows? We might get Ramos.
In any case, having another option strengthens our negotiating position with Valencia; and setting the cat among the Bernabeu pigeons can't be a bad thing. After giving them £60m for Di Maria last year, they probably think we're a soft touch.
Not or anything. He was throwing out there why Ramos would leave and I was giving him a reason. Everything is speculation in these months.
Di Maria wouldn't give a toss if he was playing football in Manchester or Paris.
Thing is, this is not new. RM have always acted as they do, ever since they became the dictator's pet team. Ramos has not all of a sudden been treated differently. I think it is a nothing PR exercise. Ramos is a regular player, pretty sure he will benefit from sponsorship because of RM, so what is his real beef. Perez and him will kiss and make up before Monday. United would be stupid to pay the money RM are supposedly asking. Same goes for Otamendi.
Do not know how RM do it, but they pay stupid money for players and receive stupid money when they want to get rid. United just pay stupid money and then get peanuts when they want to get rid.
Ok so most players then?
Let's just get this done and give them de gea plus 15 million
If they want to value de gea at 15 and call it a 30m deal that's fine if they want to say de gea is worth 35 million and call it a 50 million deal then that's fine as well
Just get it sorted ASAP because I could do without another Thiago type situation
If they want to value de gea at 15 and call it a 30m deal that's fine if they want to say de gea is worth 35 million and call it a 50 million deal then that's fine as well
Just get it sorted ASAP because I could do without another Thiago type situation
To be fair I'd happily play for corinthians, Sao Paulo, river plate, Bocca etc
And all things considered Paris is perhaps a slightly more attractive city than Manchester
Are we getting played here by Ramos? is he just after a bigger contract at RM?
Sid Lowe insists that isn't the case, other journalists seem to agree, for whatever that is worth.
Sergio Ramos......... This Summers Arturo Vidal!!
Not really. Our first target is Otamendi anyway no matter what will happen in Ramos situation.
That's a lot of accidents.
Agree. United needs to stop being Real's bitch, especially now that we don't need cash.
So what are we waiting for? And why bring Otamendi and Ramos it makes no sense?
Why do people here always assume we're getting played or embarrassed in these situations?
You honestly think people at the club are that naive?
I'm sure we're well aware that Ramos will sign a new contract with Madrid if they give him what he wants.
You honestly think people at the club are that naive?
I'm sure we're well aware that Ramos will sign a new contract with Madrid if they give him what he wants.
No, it's Perez who is playing us, he wants Otamendi but realized that we were too close, so he decided with the complicity of Ramos, to occupy our minds and assets on a big shiny fish while they contact Otamendi and his agent, and convince him to snub us.
It actually makes a lot of sense and we have an emergency plan in case one of the two will decide to stay but in case of Otamendi he already stated that he's leaving which makes thing even easier.
We shouldn't be really worried about Ramos drama at all. Slightly above 40 millions plus some solid bonuses will do the trick anyway if he wants Manchester United.
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