I mentioned it in Otemendi's thread, despite his age, he isn't really all that experienced at the top level. I do agree with you in that Stones wouldn't be a sensible move right now.
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I mentioned it in Otemendi's thread, despite his age, he isn't really all that experienced at the top level. I do agree with you in that Stones wouldn't be a sensible move right now.
I disagree thinking a new player to the league and club would show great leadership is wishful thinking. Chances are he'll be learning the language before he screams anything at anyone and he might not even be the type. Leadership in his performances would be the alternative. Again like Vida and evra that could take time. The fact is it took until he was 28 to show this compared to Stones who looks like a clone of Rio makes me disagree with your logic.
PS This club shown in 92 that youngsters can do just fine and by all accounts thats LVG's forte right.
God yeah. Rio was faking awful wasn't he, I wonder who let him get away with the constant hoofing and lack of possession skills. It was beyond awful
We cant always buy Hererras or players who genuinely wany to play for us.
It looks like you're right, we will look a right bunch of mugs here if so, whoever we sign instead of Ramos will know they weren't our top target too - don't know if that will matter but surely we must have got some information from Madrid to actually make a bid though? Well you'd hope so.
Come on I never said awful he was a great. But ball playing wise Brownie he isnt Ramos. Stats back me up too.....
You really think stones would be a better buy for us than Otamendi?
Does he have the experience to lead a backline?
I never meant awful as in shit, I was backing up your claim about Rio always hoofing it
I know, I just prefer them.
The latest figures being quoted are 55m euros. That's way too much for a defender of his age.
It has more to do with Smalling.
Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to to get the chance, since you're probably absolutely shite at football!
That's cheap according to some people on here
I think around GBP40 mil is an OK fee but for more than that we should be getting Otamendi.
Yes I really do think Stones would be better. Several reasons. He's the English Varane for me. ok less glitter and arguably a level below. But, he's bloody damn good and looking for leadership in a foreign import is really hard. Thats like thinking Di Maria would give Adnan leadership. Feck they all have their own pressure and more so if your new to the league. We have a manager lorded for his skills at building a team, young great teams if you think of Ajax. We know he wont be with us that long. So do you let him build for the next 8-9 years or for next season. I dont want to miss a trick. We have experience in Carrick, maybe even SwineTiger, Rooney and others...There is room to have one eye on the future. Having Smalling, Stones, Shaw together game after game season after season. What that becomes is damn hard for a club to buy in sometimes. Not always but I want LVG to build...not just buy.
In what way? He can compete for a starting spot.
People should stop worrying their pretty little heads over the minutiae of fees. €45m, €55m, €65m, it's irrelevant, dull, and besides the point. How does the difference between €45m and €65m effect your day to day life? The only question you should ask is would this player substantially improve us, and the answer is an unequivocal yes (unless you're one of those crazy people who don't rate him).
If it affects the rest of our transfer business then yes it does matter. I'd rather we got two players at €60m than just one at 29 whilst spending half the season suspended.
I do rate him, but not €60m rate him if you get my drift
I'm arguing with someone who thinks shareholders will revolt over Gundogans wage demands in another thread...Jesus are we Everton now!
Browniee trust Woodward with his we can break record speeches and spnsorships deals reaching 1bn euros wont give a toss about this....would be good perhaps if he did but he fecking wont!
It doesn't affect the rest of our business though. Things don't work on that level for a business of that size. Ed isn't staring at his bank account with exactly £150m in it and trying to figure out how best to divvy it up.
He's thinking I'm going to make Levy and co look like minions...I work for Man United and we can buy the best. Legacy starts here.
Every company no matter what size has budgets. Believe me if we're spending upwards of 60m euros for Ramos, it will have a financial impact on other potential signings.
What chances would he have if his competition are two 35-40mil pounds defenders? It just doesn't make sense to ditch him, he proved he can do it and finally our defenders had a season for them self and it was visible that they have improved more and more how the season progressed. I do understand one CB, but not more.
True... Though in fairness Di Maria was gash in some games last season as well
Exactly. Look youngsters even when you do whats expected and have a good season your fuc*ed come the summer because we are now real Madrid. Busby and Fergie's philosophy was flawed as their tenures showed clearly. Youth means nothing to us when untested foreign players who have a great season at the age of 28 are considered. Jesus Christ what forum am I in here. If we are a great club what do you define as great. To me its the principles which the club is built on which in turn led to its success!
http://www.espnfc.com/club/real-mad...gio-ramos-vs-real-madrid-sides-taken-sid-lowe
Great article from Sid Lowe about Ramos' situation and Madrid's way of doing things.
Great article from Sid Lowe about Ramos' situation and Madrid's way of doing things.
Thanks for sharing @ottosec ,very good article.I agree with almost everything although I think that Ozil father was the main guilty,actually I think that they broke their relationship.He was my favorite player those years.In the case of Sneijder his problem with the party should be in capital letters.His performances decreased a lot his second season.
FFS 
Last season he showed with Young starting over Di Maria that price tag won't dictate his team selection.
One of few great things in transfer season
Great article.
Its similar to the situation here. Most of the mainstream media is close to Dinamo Zagreb so when in some papers or on some site there is an artillery preparation, bashing and smearing of certain player or manager you know he'll be gone in few weeks. And of course its always players' or managers' fault.
For fecks sake
Di Maria was horrible and I don't expect Otamendi and Ramos to be horrible, plus Young played long part of the season as a WB, otherwise he wouldn't get the chance at the beginning because di Maria played well. Smalling can only play on one position.
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