Actually expected him to get more severe punishment. He'll be off for matches against Nice, Metz, Lille and Nantes (or are PSG playing some cup game midway through those fixtures?) and PSG are just a point ahead of Lyon.
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They have the League Cup final against Auxerre this week end.
His reaction to the suspension, translated from his app:
"Now people can see it themselves, with their own eyes instead of me having to say it. The whole situation has become a joke, ridiculous and unprofessional. A disgrace for football. I would have been happier if i had been suspended for the rest of the season so i could go on vacation immediately."
He's pissed off. Zlatan plays better when he's pissed off. PSG play Bastia tomorrow in the french league cup final.
"Now people can see it themselves, with their own eyes instead of me having to say it. The whole situation has become a joke, ridiculous and unprofessional. A disgrace for football. I would have been happier if i had been suspended for the rest of the season so i could go on vacation immediately."
He's pissed off. Zlatan plays better when he's pissed off. PSG play Bastia tomorrow in the french league cup final.
Good prediction. He scored two himself and assisted another in a 4-0 trashing. He's now scored 27 goals in 27 games. He has 1 goal every 81 minutes this season. A goal or assist every 73rd minute. Not bad for a season where he has been troubled with injuries and PSG have been having issues with their play.
I'm on fire prediction-wise lately 
. Sucks he's suspended on wednesday.
. Sucks he's suspended on wednesday.I'm on fire prediction-wise lately
Very harsh from them regarding the suspension it really showed a lack of sense and understanding of the situation. Whether or not PSG does well in the league is of course irrelevant to them but they also ruin PSG's chances in Europe which would be absolutely fantastic for French football.
Two teams in the quarter finals and both have a good chance of making it through to the semi final which would be monumental for French football. If either French team won it, the league as a whole would benefit immensely.
Just lacks "touch" to deny one of PSG's best player any match training before the CL games. I really hope for their sake that PSG asks for re-evaluation of the ban and that it is left untouched until after the season.
Doesn't look like they've appealed the suspension yet anyways. He probably deserves some sort of penalty, but 4 games? Harsh.
Don't think Zlatan missing vs Barca is a big deal really. He's far more likely to go missing in such a game anyway.
It is a bit backhanded. He disrespected France, so their penalty is that they disrespect France even more by risking a near endless rise in potential marketing/financial income. Clearly he needs a suspension, but why the hell does it have to also mean that French Football, the French league and the French people get a punishment as well.
He should have got his suspension for the next season so that he got the same penalty as a person and they'd come out looking good in all this. This one will fly if PSG/Monaco manages to do well, but if not I can see some very big question marks over this decision.
@wr8_utd You are not wrong there. Barcelona is one game where they can do quite well without him. Last time they faced each other PSG lined up with Cavani, Pastore and Moura up front and they won with 3-2. Moura was fantastic that game.
But two years ago they played each other in the semi finals and Ibrahimovic scored one and assisted the other in their 2-2 game. In the 1-1 game he assisted Cavani as well, so he was involved directly in every goal PSG scored.
They won't be better of without Zlatan, but they've done it this season already against Barcelona without him so they have it in them.
Zlatan has never finished with a 1 goals per match ratio and so far this season the only players with more than a 1 match per goal ratio in Europe are;
1. C. Ronaldo
2. Messi
3. Lacazette
4. Ibrahimovic
Luiz Ronaldo never managed it for example(Not even for PSV), neither did Henry, RVN, Batistuta etc. So it would be quite a big thing to manage a 1:1 goal ratio over the entire season, even if it looks unlikely to happen considering he's not allowed to play in the league anymore until the last game of the season more or less.
1. C. Ronaldo
2. Messi
3. Lacazette
4. Ibrahimovic
Luiz Ronaldo never managed it for example(Not even for PSV), neither did Henry, RVN, Batistuta etc. So it would be quite a big thing to manage a 1:1 goal ratio over the entire season, even if it looks unlikely to happen considering he's not allowed to play in the league anymore until the last game of the season more or less.
Thiago Silva: ‘Ibrahimovic put Gattuso in a bin'
Thiago Silva has revealed Gennaro Gattuso once got on the wrong side of Zlatan Ibrahimovic - who reacted by throwing him in a bin.
All three players were team-mates at Milan, with the Brazilian defender and Ibra leaving for Paris Saint-Germain in 2012.
“The protagonist of this story is Zlatan Ibrahimovic,” Silva told Sky Deutschland.
“One day, during a training session, Gattuso spent all morning teasing Zlatan. He was provoking him, and Zlatan seemed to take it without responding. In fact his revenge would come soon after.
“Rino and Zlatan met again in the dressing room after training, and Ibra lifted the entire weight of his team-mate, flipped him over and threw him in the bin!
“It was crazy, we all started laughing thinking about Gattuso’s face. I swear, I couldn’t stop laughing for a week!”
Thiago Silva has revealed Gennaro Gattuso once got on the wrong side of Zlatan Ibrahimovic - who reacted by throwing him in a bin.
All three players were team-mates at Milan, with the Brazilian defender and Ibra leaving for Paris Saint-Germain in 2012.
“The protagonist of this story is Zlatan Ibrahimovic,” Silva told Sky Deutschland.
“One day, during a training session, Gattuso spent all morning teasing Zlatan. He was provoking him, and Zlatan seemed to take it without responding. In fact his revenge would come soon after.
“Rino and Zlatan met again in the dressing room after training, and Ibra lifted the entire weight of his team-mate, flipped him over and threw him in the bin!
“It was crazy, we all started laughing thinking about Gattuso’s face. I swear, I couldn’t stop laughing for a week!”
That's great, got to love Zlatan. And Gattuso of all peopleGatuso has a rich history in trolling
Yes he just looks like something you'd wanna put in the bin
He has scored 32 goals and assisted 13 in 25 league matches this year.(2212 minutes) Incredible statistic which is a point per game in the league that Messi has just ever surpassed once in 2012-13. 0.49 minutes per goal/assist and Leo had 0.46 minutes per goal/assist with his fantastic 46 goals and 12 assists in 2644 minutes. Not a comparison between the players, just interesting that he's producing at such an impressive rate.
Yet he's nowhere near winning the Golden Shoe.
In a weaker league tbf
Was disappointed with Ibra in the CL this season vs City. Knew he had a fantastic season and he kind of bottled it vs City.
He's a league football bully. In Europe he disappears into his shell, no more arrogant Ibra there.
Lost all respect for those numbers in the French league when I see them turn up at the Etihad and can't create a chance. French League is so bad right now it must actually be boring to be a PSG fan.
PSG are 30 points ahead in their league. THIRTY! I'm not taking his numbers too seriously.
51 goals from 127 European games isn't exactly a bad record. He scored against Chelsea both home and away and scored against City at home. Sure he missed a penalty, as did Agüero. But he was very influential over both legs. He hit the post in the first leg and worked Hart with two well executed free-kicks.
The guy is 34 years old and still playing to a very high standard. Aduriz is the only other striker of the same age bracket who comes close.
His international record with an inferior nation is also very impressive.
51 goals isn't really impressive tbh with so many matches and a lot of them being in the group stages (logically so tbh) and not nearly enough in the knockout stages. It's not just about the lack of goals either, it's his performances which become really disappointing when he reaches a certain level in the CL.
Don't care about the 'Ligue 1 is crap' narrative to be honest. Three of the players nominated for the PFA Player of Year are from the French League, and were bought quite recently - and Payet is almost 30 and has scored more in the Premier League. If Zlatan can be a bully again weaker teams, great - we need goals to convert losses to Norwich, Bournemouth, Stoke, Middlesbrough, Sunderland into wins - that's where we stand right now, and we can't be snooty about a top quality Bosman signing.
Zlatan is probably the greatest upgrade we can realistically get in striker positions (the ones that are better are at big clubs already, even inferior ones will cost eye-watering amounts of money). And for not performing in the Champions League knockout stages angle - thing is, we won't be playing in them next season, and who knows what happens in 2017/ 2018. Get him in on a 2 year contract, and let Rashford develop organically. By 2018, you'll have a clear idea of Rashford's long terms sustainability. Give the position to him full time if he's up to the task, or move Martial up front, or sign a top striker once we're re-established as a major side (in on-field footballing terms).
Zlatan is probably the greatest upgrade we can realistically get in striker positions (the ones that are better are at big clubs already, even inferior ones will cost eye-watering amounts of money). And for not performing in the Champions League knockout stages angle - thing is, we won't be playing in them next season, and who knows what happens in 2017/ 2018. Get him in on a 2 year contract, and let Rashford develop organically. By 2018, you'll have a clear idea of Rashford's long terms sustainability. Give the position to him full time if he's up to the task, or move Martial up front, or sign a top striker once we're re-established as a major side (in on-field footballing terms).
Eh, he's 7th on the all time list and is one of 14 players to have scored more than 50 goals between Champions League and Europa League/UEFA Cup.
Should we take away all of Ronaldo's group stage goals over the years?
I think you have an agenda.
I would still bring him in too. We could use him.
But all depends on Mourinho joining.
Im probably the furthest away from being a fan of Ibrahimovic but i would agree with the first part.
Going into second part, on the pitch he would be a good servant but im worried about the off field staff. The prick thinks he is bigger then everything, its all about Zlatan and we shouldnt have that type of player at the club, specially when they are at the end of their career and pretty much not good enough to play at the highest stage. From what i read, he would want a massive wages and that brings different problems at the club.
Not sure how he behaves now but he was a massive prick in his Serie A days and was always fighting with teammates - once a prick, always a prick?
I know we have a team of pussys but we need someone who will fight for the club and not someone who will high-kick Phil Jones on training because he went to hard(feck, know when i see this black on white im not sure if this would be a bad thing).
And the last and most important thing, if we sign him we must sell Rooney and i cant see it tbh.....in my opinion we need to sell Rooney regardless but i think he will stay and we will have 2 players that must start and will start majority of games and they are going to be awful together. The slowest and most immobile attack we could have, add Mata to the party and we can say goodbye to the football we all hope to see.
51 out 127 isn't impressive. If you don't agree with me it doesn't mean I have an agenda
, Ronaldo has proven time and time again that whether it's group stages or knockout stages, he can deliver with goals. He doesn't have the reputation of not delivering when it matters the most, Ibra has had it for most of his career and rightly so. Going back to the "agenda" point, you're so mistaken as I actually want him Ibra to sign for Man Utd and play in the PL to see how he would perform.@Invictus Great post
Hard to analyse the performance of Ibrahimovic against City because PSG has completely lost the battle midfield against City for many diverse reasons:
- ridiculous 'tactical coup' never tested in the last 3 years (3-5-2)
- Cavani played as a left-winger: a pure catastrophe. Cavani was on the bench in the last months but Laurent Blanc lacks courage to drop him to the bench
- a destroyed midfield: no Verratti no Party, Matuidi suspended, Pastore injured, a very declining Thiago Motta
- a defender surprised to be on the pitch: Van der wiel who was the 3rd choice as a right-back in the last 3 months
- like Barcelona, lack of freshness and humility: they started the season so well that they are tired... while Real Madrid sacked his coach 2 months ago and is in a good shape
- Aurier in a bad shape (following a ban of 2 months): he shouldn't have played
In France, most people haven't understood the game plan of Laurent...including players who publicly criticized the strategy. In France, this is perceived as the big failure of Blanc and a lot of people think it was a bad idea to have renewed his contract.
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Of course, if you are in a position to hire Aubam, Lewa, Benzema, Higuain, Kane... so please go for them and I just wish you good luck to attract one of them. If you are successful, OK the salary package would be less expensive BUT you will have to pay a VERY HIGH transfer fee.
On the other hand, Ibra will bring you money because he is a super star: merchandising, brand, sponsors...
Ibra is not the long-term future but an excellent springboard.
Last point, if you want to compare the market value of players, then you have to do a quick calculation: Transfer fee + salary package over the length of the contract = sum to be paid
Then, you have to compare this sum to the benefits the player offers (number of assists/goals, leadership skills, a model in terms of professionalism, merchandising, experience to share...).
At the end, you should understand such a transaction is not shocking in the today football world and that the recruitment of Ibra can't endanger the richest club in the world.
Ideally, you should acquire 2 offensive players.
With or without Ibra, Rooney is a big question mark: he is just 30 but his stats are appalling.
Hard to analyse the performance of Ibrahimovic against City because PSG has completely lost the battle midfield against City for many diverse reasons:
- ridiculous 'tactical coup' never tested in the last 3 years (3-5-2)
- Cavani played as a left-winger: a pure catastrophe. Cavani was on the bench in the last months but Laurent Blanc lacks courage to drop him to the bench
- a destroyed midfield: no Verratti no Party, Matuidi suspended, Pastore injured, a very declining Thiago Motta
- a defender surprised to be on the pitch: Van der wiel who was the 3rd choice as a right-back in the last 3 months
- like Barcelona, lack of freshness and humility: they started the season so well that they are tired... while Real Madrid sacked his coach 2 months ago and is in a good shape
- Aurier in a bad shape (following a ban of 2 months): he shouldn't have played
In France, most people haven't understood the game plan of Laurent...including players who publicly criticized the strategy. In France, this is perceived as the big failure of Blanc and a lot of people think it was a bad idea to have renewed his contract.
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Of course, if you are in a position to hire Aubam, Lewa, Benzema, Higuain, Kane... so please go for them and I just wish you good luck to attract one of them. If you are successful, OK the salary package would be less expensive BUT you will have to pay a VERY HIGH transfer fee.
On the other hand, Ibra will bring you money because he is a super star: merchandising, brand, sponsors...
Ibra is not the long-term future but an excellent springboard.
Last point, if you want to compare the market value of players, then you have to do a quick calculation: Transfer fee + salary package over the length of the contract = sum to be paid
Then, you have to compare this sum to the benefits the player offers (number of assists/goals, leadership skills, a model in terms of professionalism, merchandising, experience to share...).
At the end, you should understand such a transaction is not shocking in the today football world and that the recruitment of Ibra can't endanger the richest club in the world.
Ideally, you should acquire 2 offensive players.
With or without Ibra, Rooney is a big question mark: he is just 30 but his stats are appalling.
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51 out 127 isn't impressive. If you don't agree with me it doesn't mean I have an agenda
You're basically nitpicking at a phenomenal career across all levels. Zlatan has rarely played for a team who is an actual favourite to win The Champions League. Bar one season with Barcelona and possibly his final season with Milan, he rarely played with a team that had a genuine chance at winning it.
He had poor stats early in his career.
Since he moved to Barcelona it's 33 goals and 17 assists in 59 CL games.
In the later stages of the CL he often wasn't in the dominating side and when his team is thoroughly outplayed it's unfair to expect him to singlehandedly win games against world's best opposition because neither do Messi or Ronaldo as you can see with their national teams.
Who here would still bring him on 3m euros a month.
This amount is not official: just classical rumours, nego and bluffs
Take into consideration that their first choice midfield was missing for the game. Possibly their most important (or top 3) players in Matuidi as well.
If he didnt hit the ground running and was dropped he's be as poisonous as a bloody Black mamba sitting on the bench. Too risky for me for a player of his age. It's just not an appointment which fits with a plan which is what we need and that should be building for the next 4-5 years minimum...?
I'm not nitpicking anything my friend. Just stating facts, He has been a bit underwhelming in Europe. His performances and his numbers show it. You say Zlatan has rarely played for an actual favorite and it is true but maybe Zlatan hasn't played well enough to carry his team in Europe.
Now this is more detailed in terms of stats.
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