Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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They were all quality teams at the time and to my knowledge they all beat some quality sides to get there.
Perhaps if I say this a third time you will finally get it. The side we beat in 2008 is not the same fecking side we faced in 2009. Different manager, several different players, a team built around Messi and Xavi not Ronaldinho and Deco. What part of that do you find difficult to understand exactly?
They were better than Chelsea, not that is matters as they won the game. Much as it kills you to see a side you don't support beat another side you don't support.
No doubt about it. They lose to another quality side, mind had the last minute goal not been perhaps wrongfully (it's one of those which could go either way) been disallowed they'd have won.
How on earth do you honestly figure they were second best in any of those ties at the Nou Camp? Jesus Christ what a muppet you are.
Yes Barcelona were lucky in 2009. They won every single competition they entered by being lucky.
You name me some better club sides than Barcelona of 2009.
The Eto'o goal was hardly an error, Eto'o just did him over. If that's your thinking then every single goal ever scored can be attributed to defensive error.
As for the rest of what you said you really should watch that game again. It was the most one sided final since 94.
You name me a single side which gets that far without any luck, close calls or off days where they win anyway.
The Carling Cup? Behave. Our season was no better than Real's and we're not the same side as last season either. Big tactical change not to mention we're now built around Rooney not Ronaldo. I certainly wouldn't grant the 2009 and 2008 league titles to this United team, they're pretty different.
Elvis , seriously, quit whilst you're behind.
Anyone saying Inter cruised through is taking the piss. Almost as much as anyone saying Cheslea should have had at least 3 penalties.
Basically, i think it's all a bit of a pisstake in order to get a response. Either that or it's a case of extreme bias. That would be understandable from a Chelsea fan, Inter fan or a Real Madrid or Espanyol fan.
These things aside it's just wierd.
Basically, i think it's all a bit of a pisstake in order to get a response. Either that or it's a case of extreme bias. That would be understandable from a Chelsea fan, Inter fan or a Real Madrid or Espanyol fan.
These things aside it's just wierd.
Very true, my opinions always changes regarding those incidents, but atleast one Pen should have been given.
Then again the Ref sent off Abidal for Anelka tripping over himself, I don't think he was bias, I just think he was a very very poor referee. The Pique one is outrageous
Abidal tripped Anelka, he had admitted that himself in a post game interview, that was on Setanta Sports. Considering that virtually all of those non calls for penalties(except for Malouda - Alves tussle) could have also resulted in red cards for denying clear goal scoring opportunities Barca were incredibly lucky in that game for having a fecking buffoon in charge of refereeing.
They haven't won the game, they progressed on away goal rule after drawing both at home and away.
I'm not going to even bother with the notion of them being a better team in that semifinal, it's laughable.
Barcelona got very fecking lucky that day, shame too, because I reckon United would have walked all over Chelsea had they been in the Final. I really can't believe how poor the referee was for the big calls in the match.
Ballack still makes me laugh in that video
Chelsea fan in being very biased towards Chelsea shocker.
Yes but Lyon aren't a quality side and aren't one of Europe's elite just because they got to a semi, as you claim.
But Barcelona still play in the same way they do now as they did then, it doesn't matter if the personel has changed. Point is, using the system they use, they often come up second best against the best sides in Europe and struggle to create many chances, even with the possession they have.
How were they better than Chelsea?
They had lots of the ball, dominated the play, but created very few chances. They scored in only one of those games, and that was against a team with ten men.
Where did I say they were lucky in winning 6 trophies? I said they were lucky against Chelsea in their semi-final, which allowed them to win the Champions League, European Super Cup, and World Club Cup. A decent ref takes charge at Stamford Bridge, and Barcelona don't win any of those.
I was talking about the Bayern game at the Allianz?
You expect a bit of luck to win the Champions League, they've had it in every single round they've played. The offside goal, 3 of our 4 goals being errors by our players, the Rafael sending off totally changing a game in which we were dominating, Toulalan's sending off for making clean contact with the ball.
Considering we lost 2 of our best players, one of those to Real Madrid, spent £20m as opposed to Real Madrid's £200m, and had most of our defence injured until about February yet still only finished a single point behind Chelsea gives me a lot of hope for next season. We saw the likes of Nani, Valencia and Evans establishing themselves, Rooney having his best ever season, Scholes and Giggs looking like they can go on forever, there's a lot of positives to take.
At the end of the day, we were 1 point off winning the title, we won a trophy and we exited the Champions League at the Quarter Final stage under very harsh circumstances.....I think our season was much better than Madrid's, to be honest.
So which of them weren't penalties? I'll admit the first one would have been a harsh one, but the one where Drogba gets his shirt pulled and then is tripped is a penalty, the one where Pique has his right arm outstretched to block the ball is a penalty, and the one where Eto'o blocks the ball with his hands which were up in the air is a penalty. I don't see how anybody can think any otherwise.
You'd find that most non Chelsea and non Barcelona fans agree that Chelsea were robbed in that game. That was one of the worst refereeing displays I have seen in my life and I have watched football for three decades.
Sorry the way we were robbed at the bridge was worse and then at Ot and who could forget the Bolton match the decisions Chelsea got there and so on and so on
First one was two players at each other. 2nd one was Drogba being pure drama, 3rd was the pique one? yes that was handball no doubt. 4th Eto'o is too close and the ball almost hits his shoulder and is nowhere near his hands and there is no way he can get out the way so no penalty.
The worst decision was sending Abidal off.
These are all opinions born of spite in my opinion. The referees have played a part. Chelsea feel hard done by and understandably. They actually gave a very good peformance yet still got put out by a moment of brilliance but that is the nature of football.
Barcelona can feel hard done by due to Militos goal being clearly offside and Bojan having a good goal chopped off. It's all opinion and what have you. The result is what matters and 9/10 the better team wins and i dont grudge Barca for beating chelsea who were more concerned with getting a penalty and moaning than actually getting the 2nd goal to seal the win. I a, not grudging Inter Milan who played a good first game and a defensive 2nd one in a tie seperated by fine details.
None of these results were tragedies and none of them matter. One team wins and the rest is history. Who has the energy to get bothered about it. Yes the standard of refereeing needs to be better but i don't grudge a team based on what i think a ref should have done.
The worst decision was sending Abidal off.
These are all opinions born of spite in my opinion. The referees have played a part. Chelsea feel hard done by and understandably. They actually gave a very good peformance yet still got put out by a moment of brilliance but that is the nature of football.
Barcelona can feel hard done by due to Militos goal being clearly offside and Bojan having a good goal chopped off. It's all opinion and what have you. The result is what matters and 9/10 the better team wins and i dont grudge Barca for beating chelsea who were more concerned with getting a penalty and moaning than actually getting the 2nd goal to seal the win. I a, not grudging Inter Milan who played a good first game and a defensive 2nd one in a tie seperated by fine details.
None of these results were tragedies and none of them matter. One team wins and the rest is history. Who has the energy to get bothered about it. Yes the standard of refereeing needs to be better but i don't grudge a team based on what i think a ref should have done.
By the same token, the Henry penalty appeal and the Eto'o offside both came in the first leg. Had they been correctly awarded, Chelsea would have in all likelihood been a couple of goals down come the second leg. This would have completely changed the complexion of the tie, forcing them to open up and take the game to Barcelona and probably get picked off at will. I don't remember any bad offside calls Chelsea received.
Toure's handball wasn't deliberate and given that it was tucked right into his chest, didn't affect the trajectory of the ball and no advantage was gained. Just because a ball hits an arm doesn't make it an automatic infringement.
What about the decent shout Alves had for a penalty? The post-game analysis showed that Pique wasn't offside.
How is this unlucky? It was naivety and a deserved second yellow.
Completely forgot about that Alves penalty. It was more than a decent shout, it was genuinely stone wall a pen.
So the Alves one is stone wall, but all of Chelsea's are debatable
Come off.
Come off.
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Mental.
you know that's bullshit, he's not even worth what he's currently on
I hope they get him. Its City after all, its bound to end up in tears at some stage. hopefully with them back in division 2.
Wtf.
Random. Why Zlatan?
nice kick
Put Auxerre to the sword tonight
Ibrahimovic vs Sacchi
Ibrahimovic contro Sacchi in tv - Video - RepubblicaTv - la Repubblica.it
Ibrahimovic: "Shut up, you talk to much"
Ibrahimovic contro Sacchi in tv - Video - RepubblicaTv - la Repubblica.it
Ibrahimovic: "Shut up, you talk to much"
Wtf.
One thing we can safely say is that he's really arrogant
I think we can also all agree he's a bit of a twat.
10 Things I hate about Zlatan
1) He's hugely arrogant
2) He's a twat
3) He's massively overrated
4) He's a flat track bully
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1) He's hugely arrogant
2) He's a twat
3) He's massively overrated
4) He's a flat track bully
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Ibrahimovic in Sacchi row
Zlatan Ibrahimovic had an angry row with Milan great Arrigo Sacchi live on television after the Rossoneri’s Champions League win over Auxerre.
The Sweden striker, who joined Milan at the end of the transfer window, scored both goals in his side’s 2-0 victory at the San Siro.
But afterwards he became embroiled in a heated discussion with the former Milan manager on the Mediaset Premium TV show.
Ibrahimovic, who formerly played for city rivals Internazionale, took exception when Sacchi joked that he would not have scored his first goal if he did not have such big feet.
"Sacchi needs to learn how to shut up," Ibrahimovic fumed. "He seems jealous because he talks too much.
"He needs to talk less about me on TV and in the newspapers. If he wants something he can come and see me about it. If you don't like the way I play, don't come and watch me.
"He also said things about me when I was at Barcelona."
Sacchi, who was a guest on the show, attempted to defend himself, insisting he had the right to "express my opinion in a polite manner".
Ibrahimovic continued his rant and Sacchi, 64, concluded by saying: "Learn some manners, son."
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic had an angry row with Milan great Arrigo Sacchi live on television after the Rossoneri’s Champions League win over Auxerre.
The Sweden striker, who joined Milan at the end of the transfer window, scored both goals in his side’s 2-0 victory at the San Siro.
But afterwards he became embroiled in a heated discussion with the former Milan manager on the Mediaset Premium TV show.
Ibrahimovic, who formerly played for city rivals Internazionale, took exception when Sacchi joked that he would not have scored his first goal if he did not have such big feet.
"Sacchi needs to learn how to shut up," Ibrahimovic fumed. "He seems jealous because he talks too much.
"He needs to talk less about me on TV and in the newspapers. If he wants something he can come and see me about it. If you don't like the way I play, don't come and watch me.
"He also said things about me when I was at Barcelona."
Sacchi, who was a guest on the show, attempted to defend himself, insisting he had the right to "express my opinion in a polite manner".
Ibrahimovic continued his rant and Sacchi, 64, concluded by saying: "Learn some manners, son."
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Who are you fooling?Did you not watch the Monaco Porto final? That Barca United final was far from one sided. The only thing was Barca were clearly better.
Taking on Sacchi is hardly the way to endear yourself to the Rosseneri... what a cock.
IMO, that's one of the main reasons for his falling out with Guardiola.
Nah. They fell out because Pep plain stopped talking to or looking at him. That obiously I suspect Guardiola was just too ashamed to tell Zlatan to his face buying him was a mistake. Or he was afraid Zlatan might 'taekwondo' him if he spoke up, being the hot head Zlatan is. Either way, he was better off plain avoiding him. For ignoring Zlatan simply injured his massive ego and made any reconciliation impossible.
Got one away to Lazio tonight, match finished 1-1
Ramires reminds me a bit of Nedved and Rivaldo
Gotta love that commentary
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