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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?


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Rashford isn't really good enough to be a starter for a club that aims to challenge/win the title anyway. Give him time. Despite the early goals he has a long way to go. He was never going to be a first choice starter next season unless we continued our slump.
 
Something brilliant about this.

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I'd love it personally. We are desperate for an arrogant, confident feck, who better than the egomaniac Zlatan?
 
Sounds like one for the marketing team. He'd be an upgrade on Rooney at #9, but that not exactly hard. We are fast turning into a retirement home.

I'd be interested in some stats on his goal scoring record against English opposition in the CL, if anyone has them.

He's just had his most prolific season. But it's 6 in 22 appearances against English opposition and 5 in 5 vs England.
 
Indeed...

We'll need walking sticks for the likes of Martial, Shaw, Fosu-Mensah, Borthwick-Jackson, Rashford and Varela to make it out of the tunnel by next season.

I had reservations about Ibra because of his playing style (like a Berbatov but a bit better in every attribute) and how he would fit into our side or style. Those reservations were put to bed after the West Ham match when I accepted that there is no style and that we have absolutely zero leaders, senior characters or winners in our squad. Ibrahimovic brings character and winning mentality in abundance - it's the only way he knows how.

Our young talent deserve to have football men of his caliber to look up to every day. Watching Young, Valencia, Rooney and Carrick rolling about on the middle of a bus, giggling and screeching like school girls, or allowing every one else to, won't get them very far.
I was apprehensive before when I posted that, but I've come round to idea of having him based on the bold.

He's just had his most prolific season. But it's 6 in 22 appearances against English opposition and 5 in 5 vs England.
Yeah, he's done 38 goals in 31 games in the league. If he can bring even half that to the PL, it will be a great signing
 
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This deal makes sense commercially, all I'm saying is don't expect Ibra to have anywhere near the impact the majority of you believe he'll have in terms of football results.
 
The time when Seria A was very difficult for the attackers is well in the past. Higuain is shitting on the defenders there, has scored more league goals for Napoli this season than he did in all compets for Real Madrid.

And Ibra played in Serie A way before Higuain went there.
 
I said someone like Auba, not necessarily Auba himself. The point is to find a relatively experinced striker who is on the verge of becoming world class and can stay here for 4-5 years. Ibra's stats have been distorted by the absolute dominance of PSG in France. His stats and performances in the CL are nothing special, he was very unconvincing against a very uninnspiring City team. Ibra's played only one season in a top league so far and scored only 16 league goals despite being assisted by the most creative players in the world in Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. The notion that he can transform United's attack is naive, IMO.
Wait, what? Just because Serie A has declined in quality over the years doesn't mean that it hasn't been one of the top 3-4 leagues in Europe over the years. Especially when Ibra started playing there. And Ligue 1 isn't a top league but it's not Eredivisie either.


And any signing like Auba is unrealistic for us at this point. Who else is in that same bracket? Kane? Dybala? Not realistic. Higuain? Not very young (28) and not that great, and also a lot more expensive than signing Ibra. Lukaku? Not good enough and expensive.
 
This deal makes sense commercially, all I'm saying is don't expect Ibra to have anywhere near the impact the majority of you believe he'll have in terms of football results.

The impact might not be him scoring 38 goals but how it enables the whole team to perform. Having Rooney upfront this year has been an absolute waste of time.
 
That's the complete opposite of what happened against City.

Both he and his team were dreadful. I wouldn't blame him but equally you can't come out with such stuff having watched said game.
Yep, PSG as a team were crap. Especially their midfield was dreadful. Rabiot and Matuidi were terrible. Verratti was injured. But it's all Zlatan's fault, eh?

This argument is becoming tedious. Made by people who watch him play once or twice per season.
 
@Downcast I don't know about you but I'm fairly sure that this season was the fastest and more powerful Zlatan that PSG had.

2012/13: 35 goals in 46 games /////// Certainly the fastest Zlatan
2013/14: 41 goals in 45 games /////// Probably the most powerful Zlatan and he started began to evolve his style of play (more collective)
2014/15: 30 goals in 37 games /////// The only season with injuries
2015/16: 48 goals in 50 games /////// During the pre-season, he was already in an excellent shape (weight loss). Great serenity.
 
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I was apprehensive before when I posted that, but I've come round to idea of having him based on the bold.


Yeah, he's done 38 goals in 31 games in the league. If he can bring even half that to the PL, it will be a good signing
Aye, that's gonna be important for the youngsters too I think, he seems the type to boost the morale of a team.
 
Some people are doubting what will Zlatan do in the PL? If John Carew could bang 13 goals in PL's prime then Ibrahimovic can put Agüero, Costa and Kane to shame.

The only bad thing about a Mourinho/Zlatan deal is that it shoul've happened 3 years ago
 
2011/12: 35 goals in 46 games /////// Certainly the fastest Zlatan
2012/13: 41 goals in 45 games /////// Probably the most powerful Zlatan and he started began to evolve his style of play (more collective)
2013/14: 30 goals in 37 games /////// The only season with injuries
2015/16: 48 goals in 50 games /////// During the pre-season, he was already in an excellent shape (weight loss). Great serenity.
That's just crazy stats.
 
2011/12: 35 goals in 46 games /////// Certainly the fastest Zlatan
2012/13: 41 goals in 45 games /////// Probably the most powerful Zlatan and he started began to evolve his style of play (more collective)
2013/14: 30 goals in 37 games /////// The only season with injuries
2015/16: 48 goals in 50 games /////// During the pre-season, he was already in an excellent shape (weight loss). Great serenity.

So great he even missed a whole season without anyone realising ;)
 
Too much to ask that in a week we'll have an FA Cup, Mourinho, and Ibra?
I have a feeling we wont have the F.a. cup. palace have switched off from the league completely and must be preparing for the final. They have had 2 weeks of rest and also of prepration and tactical analysis of us . While we have fought(i know thatvis wring word) for 4 th place.
 
Good enough to be a key player in that PSG squad but no good for United to some people. :lol:
The guy would undoubtedly add quality to our attacking lineup at least for the next season.
 
Yep, PSG as a team were crap. Especially their midfield was dreadful. Rabiot and Matuidi were terrible. Verratti was injured. But it's all Zlatan's fault, eh?

This argument is becoming tedious. Made by people who watch him play once or twice per season.

You're right.

Hard to analyse the performance of Ibrahimovic against City (2nd leg) because PSG has completely lost the battle midfield against City for many diverse reasons:

- Ridiculous 'tactical coup' never tested in the last 3 years (3-5-2)
- Cavani as a left-winger: a pure catastrophe as usual. Cavani was on the bench in the last months but Laurent Blanc lacked courage to drop him to the bench
- A destroyed midfield: no Verratti no Party, Matuidi suspended, Pastore injured, a very declining Thiago Motta (34 years next August)
- A defender surprised to be on the pitch: Van der Wiel who was the 3rd choice as a right-back in the last previous 3 months
- Lack of freshness (like Barcelona against Atletico) and humility: they started the season so well... while Real Madrid sacked his coach 4 months ago
- Aurier in a bad shape (following a ban of 2 months): he shouldn't have played
- Di Maria working on alternating current voltage

In France, most people haven't understood the game plan of Laurent...including players who publicly criticized the strategy. The man to be blamed is Laurent Blanc.

Despite these points and some surprising missed chances, he scored one goal at home against City.

This year, he also scored 2 times against Chelsea.
 
Before moving to Chelsea, Shevchenko scored 19 league goals in 27 games for Milan. Seria A was still quite good at the time. By comparison, in the same season Zlatan scored only 7 league goals in 30 games for Juve. Next season (06-07), Sheva scored 4 league goals in 30 games for Chelsea. And he was only 30.

Of course, Zlatan has got better since then and is still quite good. But it is interesting that he scored only twice 20 + league goals before moving to PSG where his stats got quite inflated due to PSG's huge dominance in the league.
 
2011/12: 35 goals in 46 games /////// Certainly the fastest Zlatan
2012/13: 41 goals in 45 games /////// Probably the most powerful Zlatan and he started began to evolve his style of play (more collective)
2013/14: 30 goals in 37 games /////// The only season with injuries
2015/16: 48 goals in 50 games /////// During the pre-season, he was already in an excellent shape (weight loss). Great serenity.

Wasn't it 2014-2015 the season with injuries?

2013-2014, he had a fantastic season.

2011-2012 was when he was with Milan.
 
Before moving to Chelsea, Shevchenko scored 19 league goals in 27 games for Milan. Seria A was still quite good at the time. By comparison, in the same season Zlatan scored only 7 league goals in 30 games for Juve. Next season (06-07), Sheva scored 4 league goals in 30 games for Chelsea. And he was only 30.

Of course, Zlatan has got better since then and is still quite good. But it is interesting that he scored only twice 20 + league goals before moving to PSG where his stats got quite inflated due to PSG's huge dominance in the league.

He's also gotten better as well.
 
Yep, PSG as a team were crap. Especially their midfield was dreadful. Rabiot and Matuidi were terrible. Verratti was injured. But it's all Zlatan's fault, eh?

This argument is becoming tedious. Made by people who watch him play once or twice per season.

I said it wasn't his fault in my post.

Equally though you can't claim he doesn't allow others to give less than 100% when only a few weeks ago he and his team produced one of the most lacklustre performances we've seen in recent times.
 
Before moving to Chelsea, Shevchenko scored 19 league goals in 27 games for Milan. Seria A was still quite good at the time. By comparison, in the same season Zlatan scored only 7 league goals in 30 games for Juve. Next season (06-07), Sheva scored 4 league goals in 30 games for Chelsea. And he was only 30.

Of course, Zlatan has got better since then and is still quite good. But it is interesting that he scored only twice 20 + league goals before moving to PSG where his stats got quite inflated due to PSG's huge dominance in the league.

Well, that would be a good comparison if Mourinho doesn't want Ibra in his team and has to play him as a winger to keep the Glazers happy
 
Zlatan coming here would definitely mean the end of van Gaal. I cannot see the two of them working together again. Mourinho on the other hand...
 
Before moving to Chelsea, Shevchenko scored 19 league goals in 27 games for Milan. Seria A was still quite good at the time. By comparison, in the same season Zlatan scored only 7 league goals in 30 games for Juve. Next season (06-07), Sheva scored 4 league goals in 30 games for Chelsea. And he was only 30.

Of course, Zlatan has got better since then and is still quite good. But it is interesting that he scored only twice 20 + league goals before moving to PSG where his stats got quite inflated due to PSG's huge dominance in the league.
The year before that (04/05) Ibra scored 16 goals in 35 and Shevchencko 17 in 29. I'm not sure what you are trying to say when talking about Sheva at Chelsea?

Juve
04/05 - 35 Games 16 goals
05/06 - 35 Games 7 goals
Inter
06/07 - 27 Games 15 goals
07/08 - 26 Games 17 goals
08/09 - 35 Games 25 goals
Barca
09/10 - 29 Games 16 goals
AC Milan
10/11 - 29 Games 14 goals
11/12 - 32 Games 28 goals

His goal scoring record seems pretty good to be. Also worth remembering that our main striker Rooney has managed to hit 15+ league goals 4 times in his career and 20+ twice
 
Watch Bayern or some other club sign hime up tomorrow

Bayern?
His ego does not match into the Bayern dressing room.

And the only striker Bayern could need would be a striker that likes to sit on the bench and willing to play the substitute. I doubt that Ibra would like that role...
 
I will be over the moon if we sign him for two reasons: first, he would give the team a massive lift and make us instant title challengers IMO. He will demand 100% from every single player and will hand out bollockings left right centre if someone switches off. Second, it would surely mean the end of van Gaal as he and Ibra don't get along and Mou coming in.

The fear factor would also be back. I'm all for this signing, even if he demands 250k a week or more.
 
I will be over the moon if we sign him for two reasons: first, he would give the team a massive lift and make us instant title challengers IMO. He will demand 100% from every single player and will hand out bollockings left right centre if someone switches off. Second, it would surely mean the end of van Gaal as he and Ibra don't get along and Mou coming in.

The fear factor would also be back. I'm all for this signing, even if he demands 250k a week or more.

His wages shouldn't be an issue considering we got rid of high earners in RVP, ADM and Falcao last summer
 
Just to let this sink in, this is a guy who scored only 8 less goals this season than our whole team has managed all season!!!
 
@Kevin Thoughts on a potential signing here? Haven't seen you drop your two cents yet, unless I missed it.
 
I will be over the moon if we sign him for two reasons: first, he would give the team a massive lift and make us instant title challengers IMO. He will demand 100% from every single player and will hand out bollockings left right centre if someone switches off. Second, it would surely mean the end of van Gaal as he and Ibra don't get along and Mou coming in.

The fear factor would also be back. I'm all for this signing, even if he demands 250k a week or more.



I have to translate the comical parody:

- Zlatan says " Once you have the ball, give me it! Ok? Have you understood?
- The defender MAPOU "Ok. I have understood"
 
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