Don't see any logic in that. Only thing bigger than his nose is his ego.
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We all expect a decline in terms of stats.
Instead of scoring 50 goals all competitions, he could score 30 goals
Yeh but he's 50 in October so don't calling him a player "in his forties".
I also don't get some of the comments here. Yeah he is 34 and first I was not 100 percent sure about him either. But with Martial and Rashford a short-term signing like him makes sense. And if they don't make it we can look at another younger option to improve things in 2 years. Kane isn't available right now, Auba will not leave this summer, Dybala just arrived at Juve. I don't think there is a better option outthere. In 2 years with hopefully CL football and more sucess under our belt it could be a different situation.
I also don't get the "he doesnt do it against top opposition" comments. Who cares? The top teams haven't been our problem, we struggled to score and create against the small ones. If he "only" destroys the likes of Aston Villa, Bournrmouth, West Brom, Stoke, Watford, Palace and Sunderland we will probably win the league. We are not playing CL either, the league will be our priority.
And also the shit league comments doesn't make much sense. The Ligue 1 isn't that great but it isn't an amateur league either. The PL signs good players from it every season and no one destroyed and dominated the league like Ibra did. No Hazard, no Giroud or Payet and they did fine here.
Comparisons with Di Maria and Falcao or Schweini makes no sense either. Angel didn't want to be here, Ibra looks very motivated and wants to prove himself in the PL, he won't give up like a pussy. Falcao had a injury before and didn't do much in the same "shitty" league, Ibra us top fit, doesn't rely on pace and barely had any injuries and just had the best season of his career. Schweini was already injured and not the same player anymore in his last Bayern season, that's why they let him go. PSG didn't want to lose Ibra.
And yeah he isn't pacey. Who cares? Pace is what we need around him. Also people underrate his movement/workrate and his ability to create. I have no doubt he will be one of the best players in the league. He also scored against good opposition. It's not like sides like Donezk, Lyon or Monaco are worse than the relegation fodder here
They would be Top10 here but people think he will fail against Burnley, Hull, Boro, West Brom and Sunderland. Makes sense....
I also don't get the "he doesnt do it against top opposition" comments. Who cares? The top teams haven't been our problem, we struggled to score and create against the small ones. If he "only" destroys the likes of Aston Villa, Bournrmouth, West Brom, Stoke, Watford, Palace and Sunderland we will probably win the league. We are not playing CL either, the league will be our priority.
And also the shit league comments doesn't make much sense. The Ligue 1 isn't that great but it isn't an amateur league either. The PL signs good players from it every season and no one destroyed and dominated the league like Ibra did. No Hazard, no Giroud or Payet and they did fine here.
Comparisons with Di Maria and Falcao or Schweini makes no sense either. Angel didn't want to be here, Ibra looks very motivated and wants to prove himself in the PL, he won't give up like a pussy. Falcao had a injury before and didn't do much in the same "shitty" league, Ibra us top fit, doesn't rely on pace and barely had any injuries and just had the best season of his career. Schweini was already injured and not the same player anymore in his last Bayern season, that's why they let him go. PSG didn't want to lose Ibra.
And yeah he isn't pacey. Who cares? Pace is what we need around him. Also people underrate his movement/workrate and his ability to create. I have no doubt he will be one of the best players in the league. He also scored against good opposition. It's not like sides like Donezk, Lyon or Monaco are worse than the relegation fodder here
They would be Top10 here but people think he will fail against Burnley, Hull, Boro, West Brom and Sunderland. Makes sense....
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Very happy if he do sign for us even for a year. Hope he make same impact as Henrik Larsson
Yeeeeeeeeees!!
Cross knows his stuff, right?
He is one of journos that had a pipeline to Woody, along with Simon Stone (who's also been reporting the interest)...
No that story was very much a BBC story, the most they have put their neck on the line in years, in particular Simon Stone was the one to listen to. Sport Witness who are great say Andy Burton of Sky appears to have great connections with Mourinho so he could be one to watch now, Mourinho definitely leaks as you always seem to have an idea of what he is thinking through the press.
This is done, who is next?
Can't the focus be more on why Nuts feels that way, instead of hording him with everyone saying what a stupid opinion it is? It'd be better discourse than just shutting every opinion that's not the most popular one down.
I think worrying about his individual quality is missing the point. If you look at the stories that leaked out after LVG went and Moyes went it makes you think our dressing room is a bunch of pathetic players who just moan about everything. Mourinho needs players to set an example, to run through walls and Zlatan can do that while making everyone else raise their game too, if he plays awfully he can be dropped but that winning mentality will still be present. Huge signing.
Personally I think he's the most Cantona like player since Cantona.
He's a force of personality and a completely audacious footballer. Arrogant and crazy but also a great leader.
It's hard to predict how he will do in terms of numbers, but I wouldn't be in any doubt he will be a massive positive impact on the club.
Can't wait to see him in the shirt.
He's a force of personality and a completely audacious footballer. Arrogant and crazy but also a great leader.
It's hard to predict how he will do in terms of numbers, but I wouldn't be in any doubt he will be a massive positive impact on the club.
Can't wait to see him in the shirt.
If he's a success I can honestly see him having a Cantona impact. Not only on the pitch but after he leaves, he may just inspire our squad to the point they are gagging for more silverware.
No one said that it was stupid and he explained why he feels that way.
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Very happy when I saw the Sky story last night. Still a great player, good deal for us. I'm liking these reports that the idea is to allow Rashford room to develop too.
I think that he will do well for us, comparisons with Falcao are ridiculous.
Zlatan is incredibly strong and has a huge frame, but he still has a silky touch. He has never been reliant on pace, obviously, and that is why he is at the top of his game in his mid thirties. He has decent top speed but his acceleration is limited. I expect 20-25 goals from him next season.
In the Euros 2012 Terry tried to bully him in the first half but he just kept bouncing off Zlatan. In the second half he didn't even bother any more.
He is very strong mentally and I think he will be very motivatited to win the PL. That is the kind of challange he craves at this stage of his career.
Zlatan is incredibly strong and has a huge frame, but he still has a silky touch. He has never been reliant on pace, obviously, and that is why he is at the top of his game in his mid thirties. He has decent top speed but his acceleration is limited. I expect 20-25 goals from him next season.
In the Euros 2012 Terry tried to bully him in the first half but he just kept bouncing off Zlatan. In the second half he didn't even bother any more.
He is very strong mentally and I think he will be very motivatited to win the PL. That is the kind of challange he craves at this stage of his career.
Right, cheers.
Hate to break it to you Nuts, but Leicester City just won the Premier League. Mickey Mouse indeed.
I particularly like this deal because it'll take pressure off Rashford.
When Zlatan's done Zlatan-ing, Rashford could be much more equipped at handling the main man role at a club like ours. We just doesn't know enough about his temperament and ability yet to fairly expect him to be our main goalscorer at the age of 18 for a season when it's vital that we secure CL qualification and close the gap to the top sides.
When Zlatan's done Zlatan-ing, Rashford could be much more equipped at handling the main man role at a club like ours. We just doesn't know enough about his temperament and ability yet to fairly expect him to be our main goalscorer at the age of 18 for a season when it's vital that we secure CL qualification and close the gap to the top sides.
Was French league a mickey mouse league when Lacazette was the striker many people clamored for last summer or is it a mickey mouse league only when Zlatan is concerned?
With Ibra coming in and Mou in charge, we'll be instant title challengers. A top class right-winger, Andre Gomes in midfield and another centre-back to partner Smalling and we'll be as good as anyone in the league. Exciting times!
Absolutely. No one else has given me that Cantona vibe like he has, it's really quite uncanny. I hope he stays injury-free because I think if he does then we'll be in for a good season.
Stop trying to give him the evil eye man
Stupid was poorly worded by me. Sorry, I guess I should have read it a little bit closer and I overreacted instead.
What was Zlatan's original plan in running his contract down at PSG?
If he's coming here for Mourinho, did he know about the situation between Man Utd and Mourinho prior to the world, in general? If so, was VG going to be sacked irrespective of him achieving Champ. League position?
I'm assuming someone who follows PSG might have some insight into the matter
If he's coming here for Mourinho, did he know about the situation between Man Utd and Mourinho prior to the world, in general? If so, was VG going to be sacked irrespective of him achieving Champ. League position?
I'm assuming someone who follows PSG might have some insight into the matter
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Unlikely.
Pretty sure his whole reason for running his contract down was just for a new challenge. He wouldn't have insider knowledge on Mourinho, or our intention to let go of LVG, that's just how things happened.
Reminds me very much of the Larsson signing. Swedish striker on a short term contract obviously but I also think he could have similar impact.
Fair point. But consider the situation he's at now.
The Milan clubs feel he'll cost a bomb in wages to afford. Don't think Real would be up for "the Zlatan". German clubs, maybe? Or was he hoping to get offers from the premier league?
Either which way, pretty excited if he indeed does join us. Brilliant player.
Martial, Rooney, Rashford are more than good enough to rotate through a season without Champions League football.
The problem was lack of chances created, not goals, which I thought was plainly obvious I was referring to in my post. We had (with the exception of Martial) stationary widemen who were often unable to beat a man. Slow and un-creative passers, which allowed teams to form an organized defense. And no effective protection of the back four, which forced us to use two holding midfielders, hence how little our midfield contributed to goals.
Zlatan doesn't solve any of those problems. He's just an upgrade on our current striker. The problems still remain.
Our current forwards:
Career goals for all three, so Martial has the two games against Arsenal for Monaco added and Rooney has his games against the respective sides for Everton.
Top stats, well done.
Scoring wasn't the problem. Creating chances and getting into shooting positions was the problem. There were numerous games last season where we had below 5 shots on target. Unless Zlatan has a 100% conversion rate, he doesn't solve that problem.
Our "single biggest problem" was poor widemen. Which both LVG and majority of fans recognized.
Costa is a monster physically and a good hoofing target. So is Benteke. So is Andy Carroll. Your argument doesn't hold any weight. He'd make us one dimensional because our main line of attack would still be through Zlatan, it doesn't matter if we are hoofing, playing to feet or if he's playing deep. It's still the same line of attack, just not in your traditional sense.
So I hold by argument, he's a good signing and as long as he performs to his capabilities, will be a clear upgrade on our forward line. But no, he doesn't solve our main problems.
Totally agree. Very few in this thread are looking at what our actual problem is. I'm not saying he's past it or rubbish, he's just not the type of striker we need. I agree with those who say the Falcao comparison is wrong. It'll be more like RvN in his last season with us.
Zlatan is a playmaker around the box. He is nothing like Costa, Benteke, or Andy Carroll. We don't have many of those around. Rooney has been extremely poor recently, and we can't rely on Martial doing everything. He solves a lot of our issues around the box, but I agree we desperetely need a quality RM. However, a free transfer does not hinder that in any way.
No one player can solve all of our problems, and even with Zlatan we need a creative and pacey right winger, maybe they expect Rashford to play there? He was great when he drifted right this season...
That said, Zlatan helps, as he's very creative too, he can drop deep and dictate very well.
We can buy creative players as well this summer and Ibra actually creates a lot himself, he's great at bringing others into play.
Sorry! Come to think of it, I might have made a similar post about Shaw a year ago..
I wouldn't say he's great at it but what do you think this United team needs? A centre forward who stretches defenders, runs in behind, runs the channels, or one that likes to drop deep?
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