Not good enough, never ever impressed me in reserves/youth.
Zeki Fryers
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If it wasn't for Evans, Smalling and Jones then you'd say he wouldn't be too bad a player to keep and continue developing. He's not in the same league as those 3 though, so in comparison - he isn't good enough.
It's pretty fecking obvious what the issue is. Morrison has severe behavioural issues, Pogba is not committed to United and Fryers simply isn't good enough.
There is strong youth in our reserves, but we're not going to go out of our way to accommodate big headed pricks like Morrison and Pogba that have not shown the same level of commitment or worth to the team in order to pay their wage demands.
Morrison sends a very clear message to youth academy players that just because you're in our system, doesn't mean you've already made it as a football. Players should just ask Robbie Savage how gutting it is. He never got over it.
I've been watching the reserves all season and he's a good player but not one that can't be replaced.
We don't want players that aren't committed to us. We're doing nothing wrong.
We don't want players that aren't committed to us. We're doing nothing wrong.
Is Norwood off??
Yeah, he said on twitter he will not be resigning and will look for a team at championship level, that will give him more playing time.
Not at all.
Also Morrison was let go, not sure how many times people need to hear that.
Found that really weird, why not do it on loan from us? His final point "sometimes you have to be realistic" indicates to he has no expectation of ever being United quality, in which case fair enough.
So is Fryers actually off?
Norwood isn't good enough for United - and he is not 18 anymore. You can't blame him for wanting to leave. I thought he was out of contract but Coventry said they had a bid rejected but hoped they could reach a deal with United. So maybe they offered £300k or so - and we hope for £700-800k
He is out of contract but he's under the age of 24 and we've offered him a new deal on the same (or better) terms which means we're due some compensation from the club he joins. It's like Richard Eckersley's move to Burnley three years ago. That was settled at a tribunal about six months after the transfer took place. Think we got c. £500K.
ah right you are
Couldn't disagree more. Pogba aside, such departures are incredibly commonplace and don't indicate any problem at all. For Norwood and James, see Eagles, Martin and countless others. And we all know Morrison's departure was a special case and at our behest.
Real shame. He looked very very good at Coventry.
So rather than wade through loads of Scholesy-esque Norwood banta', has Fryer confirmed he's off then?
Nope.
For every Pogba and Morrison, there is Welbeck, Evans and Cleverley. We're definitely doing something right.
Exactly. How many teams can say they produce as many players as we do, considering the standard they have to reach here is that much higher than almost everywhere else. The likes of Liverpool haven't brought through even one player as good as Evans in years.
they got Martin Kelly in the Euro squad.
Just taking the piss.
It is not as if their career will end after leaving Utd. Football is a short career, they have to make good of it if they feel they have a better chance elsewhere
Not really, never going to make it here. Great technique etc but his pace etc was always going to stop him
This. He always reminds me of Stephen McPhail. Great passer of the ball, but his overall game isn't good enough to make it at the top level.
Hopefully he will get a top-half Championship club and have a good career.
Good comparison although McPhail imo would be the superior talent if injuries didnt kill him early...
Not that Trap would play him either way
Fair enough. I liked what I saw.
Ah yeah dont get me wrong, I wasnt dismissing his ability, some of his displays for us were fantastic to watch. He even morphed into Scholes for a very brief period of about 2 matches last year. His long distance passing was immense. Type of player that might do well abroad actually.
Be nice to see him go and do well. Like him.
I guess it's easy to get carried away with our youngsters.
I believe he will have a good EPL career in the future. Norwood that is...
Is Zeki really leaving?
Is Zeki really leaving?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...chester-united-teenager-ezekiel-fryers-887148
Spurs say the Mirror.
Spurs say the Mirror.
Eurrrgh Ravel wasn't sold because we couldn't agree a deal though, we offered a derisory deal to protect compensation and then got rid.
Not that disappointed. Decent player, but I don't think he make it here. Good luck.
Will be no loss at all.
I am pretty sure he won't make it at Spurs too(if this is true).
I am pretty sure he won't make it at Spurs too(if this is true).
hope they can keep him hydrated given the amount of times he cramped up after coming on.
How many English players have been allowed to leave the club which later has been regretted?
I can think of plenty of foreign lads like Pique or Rossi, but I can't think of any English ones. Lots of good Premiership-class talent like Eagles or Foster or Richardson or Frazier Campbell, but no one the club absolutely screwed up with like Bayern did with Mats Hummels.
Ravel Morrison may become that player, but decisions have to be made on the margin and right now there was no way Ravel could stay at the club.
I can think of plenty of foreign lads like Pique or Rossi, but I can't think of any English ones. Lots of good Premiership-class talent like Eagles or Foster or Richardson or Frazier Campbell, but no one the club absolutely screwed up with like Bayern did with Mats Hummels.
Ravel Morrison may become that player, but decisions have to be made on the margin and right now there was no way Ravel could stay at the club.
I liked what I saw when he played for us in the CC, but I don't think he'll ever be a starter for our first team.
I just hope we're considering the value of our young players to this club, we need to at least be making a million pounds or two on these players, not seeing them walk away for nothing. I realize there are limitations on contract lengths for young players, but if they won't sign a new contract when we can offer it, we should move them along before their current contract expires so we get a decent fee.
Fryers is probably worth more to another club than he is to us, the only thing that bothers me is it doesn't seem like we'll make much profit off his training.
I just hope we're considering the value of our young players to this club, we need to at least be making a million pounds or two on these players, not seeing them walk away for nothing. I realize there are limitations on contract lengths for young players, but if they won't sign a new contract when we can offer it, we should move them along before their current contract expires so we get a decent fee.
Fryers is probably worth more to another club than he is to us, the only thing that bothers me is it doesn't seem like we'll make much profit off his training.
Well what choice did we have with Zeki? This time last year he was coming off a campaign where he'd hardly played due to injury, no-one was going to buy him for any sort of decent fee at that stage.
Ravel is too dumb to be successful. Good job we got rid.
What's the rule, that 18 year olds can only sign 3 year contracts? He's only 19, so if that's right he can't be at the end of a contract already.
Perhaps he's almost 20 and will start next season on the last year of his deal? That would mean this summer would be our last chance to cash in at all, perhaps that's why we're reading about him, we're looking to sell if he won't sign the relatively small 1,500 a week contract.
I would say we should sign him to a slightly smaller contract than others are offering him, hopefully he'd take slightly less money to stay with United, and then look to sell him in the next summer from a position of strength.
But that doesn't seem to be how United do things, or how English teams are expected to act. In the States it would be seen as protecting your asset, but in England some would see it as holding back a player's career. SAF is very good about letting a player do what's best for their career, even if that means less money for United. Lord knows we could have gotten more out of Pique.
18 year olds can only sign 3 year deals as a maximum (I believe), but that doesn't mean they all do. As far as I know Zeki's was only for a year due to injury problems and lack of development, which isn't unusual.
How do you compare and rate Fryers and Blackett PS18?
Blackett looks special - but a bit Ferdinand-eque (lack of concentration) - Fryers never looked special at that age.
What makes Blackett special is that he has pace, strength, height and a thunderous shot with his left foot.
What makes Blackett special is that he has pace, strength, height and a thunderous shot with his left foot.
Do you reckon Blackett will be in the first team squad next season as Fábio and Fryers are both leaving?
I think his physics give him a chance to be fast-tracked into first team.
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