Yves Bissouma / Signs for Spurs

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He isn't even under suspicion of doing the crime I believe? he was just there and it was 1 of his entourage.

Not according to the first article I've just read about it

Now obviously there's a ton more evidence against a certain other player but it's still strange how Bissouma hasnt been suspended by Brighton
 
Not according to the first article I've just read about it

Now obviously there's a ton more evidence against a certain other player but it's still strange how Bissouma hasnt been suspended by Brighton

If it were strange then there would surely be a conversation about the fact that it was strange. And there isn’t. We don’t even know what he’s accused of doing. I’m not sure Brighton would have suspended him for the season for being accused of slapping a girl’s bottom in a nightclub, for instance.
 
Would you want to be the club taking a 40m chance on him before you know what happened and if it was resolved? I don’t think United would want to be
 
Would you want to be the club taking a 40m chance on him before you know what happened and if it was resolved? I don’t think United would want to be

Not at Unitef with what has happened lately, but Villa were supposedly very keen in January and it seems they'll go back in for him in the summer
 
Would you want to be the club taking a 40m chance on him before you know what happened and if it was resolved? I don’t think United would want to be

Yes because it's not difficult to discern the facts and what evidence there is. From what we know out in the public it's very unlikely to be anything serious.

I'd happily take him for 40m, he's class.
 
Would you want to be the club taking a 40m chance on him before you know what happened and if it was resolved? I don’t think United would want to be

Yeah but much like Mason if it was anything serious he wouldn't be available
 
Interesting he is still playing with this investigation I know little aboout and its never ever mentioned by the pundits etc.

I think he is a really good player and premiership proven with experience now. But I still expect the fee would be £40m+, not a massive fee, but if it is like that, puts me off. Think if you are paying that you may as well go all out for one of the top top top central midfielders OR there are several young players on the continent who are as talented and probably cost more like half the fee that ar more of a gamble not havign played here before. Not sure his fee fits in with our budget to sign several nor does he improve us to such a degree as other signings both in his and other positions that would cost similar fees or a little more, otherwise I would take him as he fits the profile of the type of player we need for sure in midfield
Brighton aren't getting £40m +for him with only a year on his contract , £25 m would get the it done or fee could even be lower if Bissouma is insistent on specific Club .
 
Brighton aren't getting £40m +for him with only a year on his contract , £25 m would get the it done or fee could even be lower if Bissouma is insistent on specific Club .

Ahh didnt realise he only had a year. Well if he is that kid of fee, I would prefer him over the likes of Neves and Tielmans at similar fees....though they are more the other midfielder signing and would prefer CAqueret who also has a year on his contract and would be around £25m.

If he is £25m its a toss up between him and Kamara on a free for the defensive spot as Tchouanemi for £60m is too expensive still for me in terms of getting 5-7 players in
 
He's a good all-rounder. Will put in honest effort to win the ball, can receieve it and turn and run the ball or find players with his passing. Can pretty much do it all for a CM without being an absolute specialist in a defensive or attacking role. I think realistically with how wide open we are defensively with the players we have, we'd need to pair him with another midfielder who will also get involved defensively like he will and spread the job between them. Would be much better than McTominay and Fred splitting it anyway

As for the investigation I'm sure that if he was a United player there would be more of a focus on it.
 
Yes because it's not difficult to discern the facts and what evidence there is. From what we know out in the public it's very unlikely to be anything serious.

I'd happily take him for 40m, he's class.
Yes that’s why the police extended his bail and continue to investigate. Well done Sherlock
 
If it were strange then there would surely be a conversation about the fact that it was strange. And there isn’t. We don’t even know what he’s accused of doing. I’m not sure Brighton would have suspended him for the season for being accused of slapping a girl’s bottom in a nightclub, for instance.
You don't think a club would suspend a player who's accused of sexual assault?
 
Yes that’s why the police extended his bail and continue to investigate. Well done Sherlock

He's not even on bail..

You've got this weird fixation with Bissouma, every time there's a bump you're right in here with 'yes but what about the case'..

He's part of an investigation into something what happened 6 months ago and hasn't been charged with anything. Given that it was in a club in public it's very likely him or one of his friends got a bit too touchey feely. Douche-y yes but hardly the first time that's happened in a club and hardly Ted Bundy like you're constantly trying to make him out to be
 
He's not even on bail..

You've got this weird fixation with Bissouma, every time there's a bump you're right in here with 'yes but what about the case'..

He's part of an investigation into something what happened 6 months ago and hasn't been charged with anything. Given that it was in a club in public it's very likely him or one of his friends got a bit too touchey feely. Douche-y yes but hardly the first time that's happened in a club and hardly Ted Bundy like you're constantly trying to make him out to be
His bail was extended up until April. There has been no news reported since but as it’s been extended twice already I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you think. Hence why the big clubs aren’t being linked. If he’s cleared happy days but he hasn’t been.. yet
 
There is nothing wrong to avoid player like this to avoid the risk of worst case scenario.
 
His bail was extended up until April. There has been no news reported since but as it’s been extended twice already I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you think. Hence why the big clubs aren’t being linked. If he’s cleared happy days but he hasn’t been.. yet

He's no longer on bail. The other man in his 40s is on bail, Bissouma was released under investigation.
 
Right so the other guy has his bail increased to June but Bissouma hasn’t. They both remain under investigation though. Which goes back to my original point in this thread, if I’m gonna spend millions on him I want him absolutely clear of allegations not off on a lack of prosecutable evidence.

but it seems you don’t see it that way along with a few other fans. Not for me, until it’s irrefutable that he’s innocent
 
Right so the other guy has his bail increased to June but Bissouma hasn’t. They both remain under investigation though. Which goes back to my original point in this thread, if I’m gonna spend millions on him I want him absolutely clear of allegations not off on a lack of prosecutable evidence.

but it seems you don’t see it that way along with a few other fans. Not for me, until it’s irrefutable that he’s innocent

I thought it was innocent until proven guilty. Apparently it's really the opposite. The case being closed is enough for me.
 
I thought it was innocent until proven guilty. Apparently it's really the opposite.
I guess when it’s not your money it’s easier to say. Let’s use United in this scenario. You’re mourtough. You’ve got limited money. You’ve got greenwood accused of rape, assault and threats to kill.

you’ve seen that bissouma is a good player. Probably could get him for 25 - 40m. However he’s got the police investigating him for some kind of sexual crime. Do you buy him?

interested in the answers to this
 
I guess when it’s not your money it’s easier to say. Let’s use United in this scenario. You’re mourtough. You’ve got limited money. You’ve got greenwood accused of rape, assault and threats to kill.

you’ve seen that bissouma is a good player. Probably could get him for 25 - 40m. However he’s got the police investigating him for some kind of sexual crime. Do you buy him?

interested in the answers to this

I'd stay a million miles away.

Bissouma is a good player. But not so good that you couldn't find a player of a similar level across all of Europe.

Avoid buying in problems.
 
I guess when it’s not your money it’s easier to say. Let’s use United in this scenario. You’re mourtough. You’ve got limited money. You’ve got greenwood accused of rape, assault and threats to kill.

you’ve seen that bissouma is a good player. Probably could get him for 25 - 40m. However he’s got the police investigating him for some kind of sexual crime. Do you buy him?

interested in the answers to this

Not only would I not even consider him, I would tell anybody who suggested him to me to leave my office and stop wasting my time.
 
I guess when it’s not your money it’s easier to say. Let’s use United in this scenario. You’re mourtough. You’ve got limited money. You’ve got greenwood accused of rape, assault and threats to kill.

you’ve seen that bissouma is a good player. Probably could get him for 25 - 40m. However he’s got the police investigating him for some kind of sexual crime. Do you buy him?

interested in the answers to this

Obviously we shouldn't buy him if he is getting investigated, he may yet be found guilty. The case needs to be relsolved first. But you want him to be proven innocent which is something else and may not even be possible. Personally I think If the case is closed we can move on with him for a low fee.
 
City played Mendy whilst he was on bail for rape. No one knows the details of the charges against Bissouma but it can still be serious even though he's still playing for Brighton.
 
City played Mendy whilst he was on bail for rape. No one knows the details of the charges against Bissouma but it can still be serious even though he's still playing for Brighton.
How serious could it be if he has been released pending further investigation and Didn't Aston Villa make a bid for him in January .
 
How serious could it be if he has been released pending further investigation and Didn't Aston Villa make a bid for him in January .

Did you totally ignore the post you quoted? City knew about Mendy’s accusations and the police involvement for a year and carried on playing him.

These allegations are unlikely to be as bad as those because they’re horrific, but you absolutely can’t use “but they’re playing him!” as an excuse to ignore it as we’ve very, very recent evidence from this very season that players can keep playing with serious investigations going on.

Also, to be quite Frank, I couldn’t give a feck who Aston Villa make bids for.
 
How serious could it be if he has been released pending further investigation and Didn't Aston Villa make a bid for him in January .

It's important to remember that there is a difference between Villa signing him and us signing him. We are one of the biggest brands in the world and everything comes under the microscope much more for us. Even if what Bissouma is accused of falls into the "not enormously serious" category of offences, the media would have a field day and sponsors would be panicking. Nobody would care if Villa signed him.

Good player though.
 
It's important to remember that there is a difference between Villa signing him and us signing him. We are one of the biggest brands in the world and everything comes under the microscope much more for us. Even if what Bissouma is accused of falls into the "not enormously serious" category of offences, the media would have a field day and sponsors would be panicking. Nobody would care if Villa signed him.

Good player though.
Valid point
 
Did you totally ignore the post you quoted? City knew about Mendy’s accusations and the police involvement for a year and carried on playing him.

These allegations are unlikely to be as bad as those because they’re horrific, but you absolutely can’t use “but they’re playing him!” as an excuse to ignore it as we’ve very, very recent evidence from this very season that players can keep playing with serious investigations going on.

Also, to be quite Frank, I couldn’t give a feck who Aston Villa make bids for.
I didn't ignore anything I made a separate point based on Article posted by another poster which stated he is not even under arrest anymore but investigation is still going on but you felt the need to butt in even without comprehending the actual point or simply ignoring it .
 
I'm not sure on the exact status of Bissouma but the lack of movement on the issue doesn't mean anything either. There's a massive backlog in the system since Covid which is why Greenwood had his bail extended recently and why Mendy has had his trial put back.
 
I didn't ignore anything I made a separate point based on Article posted by another poster which stated he is not even under arrest anymore but investigation is still going on but you felt the need to butt in even without comprehending the actual point or simply ignoring it .

You literally asked how serious it could be on a post specifically mentioning Mendy, so your reading comprehension isn’t to be trusted, blatantly.
 
It's important to remember that there is a difference between Villa signing him and us signing him. We are one of the biggest brands in the world and everything comes under the microscope much more for us. Even if what Bissouma is accused of falls into the "not enormously serious" category of offences, the media would have a field day and sponsors would be panicking. Nobody would care if Villa signed him.

Good player though.
You make a valid point which have some merit but you overstating bolded part a bit if the actual allegations aren't of serious nature against him .
 
Good athlete, seems to like defending.

But he's average on the ball and we badly need players who can receive and pass the ball to a very high level.

I'd much rather Neves.
 
Good athlete, seems to like defending.

But he's average on the ball and we badly need players who can receive and pass the ball to a very high level.

I'd much rather Neves.

They are different players. Bissouma is similar to Fred, better on the ball and less prone to mistakes but he doesn't take as many risks as Fred either. Plays it more safe. Ruben Neves is a playmaker and also works quite hard. He's got a mad passing range, but his accuracy is actually worse than Fred. Nowhere near the level we should aspire to be though. If we're going for a deep lying playmaker it's got to be Frenkie de Jong. Unfortunately, there's not just that many good deep lying playmakers around, and most are unavailable.
 
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