Youri Tielemans

He is too young and raw atm, definitely has quality when striking the ball but looked like a boy next to Pogba and Pogba knew it. He had him in his back pocket 95% of the time over the two legs.

Definitely should be monitored as in 3-4 years he COULD turn into a top player.
 
Love to see us at City bring him in. With Yaya leaving theres a nice big midfield hole looking for someone younger with more legs. In a midfield with Silva and a good DM or even Fernandinho I reckon he could should his real ability. Wouldn't break the bank either. £25m tops I'd say.
 
Love to see us at City bring him in. With Yaya leaving theres a nice big midfield hole looking for someone younger with more legs. In a midfield with Silva and a good DM or even Fernandinho I reckon he could should his real ability. Wouldn't break the bank either. £25m tops I'd say.

Don't think he is good enough yet for a top tier team. Even City.
 
Don't think he is good enough yet for a top tier team. Even City.

Agreed, but it might be a shrewd buy for them. Spend £25m on him now or leave it and potentially end up looking at a pricetag of £40m+ after a few seasons' development elsewhere.
 
Don't think he is good enough yet for a top tier team. Even City.

Not quite but neither is Yaya, if he came to us, he would likely play only when Pep fancied KDB on the wing and Gundo is injured (quite a bit). He'd be a rotation option more likely. Basically when KDB plays in Sterlings RW position he would play MC with Silva being covered by Fernandinho. He'd be 4th choice mc but would feature plenty due to Gundo being out and KDB being moved around. Could see him playing maybe 25 games total in his first season.

Theres also the fact 25m of so is the price of a gamble these days.
 
Assisted both goals today against Club Brugge; Dendoncker and Mbodji scored the goals.
 
Missed a sitter too, but keep that on the low.
 
Fantastic player and hugely impressed me at Old Trafford. Reminds me of how Shaqiri and Erikssen played against us and how they were obviously talented enough to take the step up - Tielemans is good enough for any league.
 
I was impressed with him in the two games against us. Centre midfield is extremely difficult for a young player, but he didn't look out of place there. Once he matures I can see him being a wonderful player. Way too early to move to a big club though, that'd be a mistake imo.
 
Fantastic player and hugely impressed me at Old Trafford. Reminds me of how Shaqiri and Erikssen played against us and how they were obviously talented enough to take the step up - Tielemans is good enough for any league.

I agree. Surprised to see a lot of "not good enough, give him a few years" type comments. He may have been around for a fair while now, but he is still a kid. He did well against us and he really reminds me of Seedorf at a similar age, technically very very good and also very intelligent and aware of what is around him. Still raw yes but the talent is obvious to me
 
Thats how you do business.

Take note Woody
Its so fecking cheap too, i mean look at the transfer fee, for 20 million euros we wont get a player as good. Then wages 2 million per year that is like 35k/week.
 
The kid could be making a good choice allowing Monaco to develop him for a few years, and if it brings Fabinho our way then all the better.
 
The prices these clubs in other countries gets talent for is quite something compared to the PL, and us especially.

You just know that if he transferred to us it would be twice that, minimum.
 
It's more to do with the fact that the Belgian Pro League is always a bit cheaper to do business from. At around £20m, Tielemans near enough equals the record transfer within the league set by Lukaku.
 
The prices these clubs in other countries gets talent for is quite something compared to the PL, and us especially.

You just know that if he transferred to us it would be twice that, minimum.

Players from the belgium are not expensive, simple as that

His transfer fee is the biggest in the league history, the second one was 20m for Fellaini when he went to Everton from Standard.

United just never signs players form those type of leagues, we are only interested when they are doing their stuff at Bundesliga, La liga, serie A, PL or ligue 1. Obviously we pay more money for that.

Want a great player that costs no more than 20m euros, go for Dendoncker. He might be even better than Tielemans. But United will pick up their nose for him again and be interested in a season or 2 when his price will indeed be double or triple.
 
People loosing there shit about that transfer fee,what if there is % of next sale in it too.
 
Really baffles me when such obvious transfers like this we dont do. Clubs like Monaco/Dortmund/Atletico all make smart logical descions and we'd rather just raid Southampton.

What is it? It surely cant be just sheer incompetence, theres got to be something more. Would have happily taken him/Dolberg or Werner. Its pretty obvious he'll be sold for triple that price in the future. Is fecking infuriating seeing a top belgian talent ( likely will be the best the countries ever produced) go to another club. Its not even that hard to identify these players.
 
Chill out we would have brought him and everyone would have moaned when he wasn't up to scratch. Let him develop at Monaco, if he turns out good we can fight for him after. I'm sure we all wish we did that with Depay now.
 
Really baffles me when such obvious transfers like this we dont do. Clubs like Monaco/Dortmund/Atletico all make smart logical descions and we'd rather just raid Southampton.

What is it? It surely cant be just sheer incompetence, theres got to be something more. Would have happily taken him/Dolberg or Werner. Its pretty obvious he'll be sold for triple that price in the future. Is fecking infuriating seeing a top belgian talent ( likely will be the best the countries ever produced) go to another club. Its not even that hard to identify these players.

I highly doubt he'll be the best Belgium player ever

As for Liverpool I would imagine Dortmund and Atletico are far more attractive for non English players (I assume you're referring to Liverpool not going for someone like Dembele)
 
Really baffles me when such obvious transfers like this we dont do. Clubs like Monaco/Dortmund/Atletico all make smart logical descions and we'd rather just raid Southampton.

What is it? It surely cant be just sheer incompetence, theres got to be something more. Would have happily taken him/Dolberg or Werner. Its pretty obvious he'll be sold for triple that price in the future. Is fecking infuriating seeing a top belgian talent ( likely will be the best the countries ever produced) go to another club. Its not even that hard to identify these players.

The reason is the same as a lot of other transfers of other players.

Either the club is interested but the player prefers to go elsewhere and play regularly. Or, the powers that be here (and at other top clubs) doubt whether the player is good enough.

There are loads of players around Europe talked up as stars. Some become very good players, some don't. It's a big step up from Belgium to the PL and his club will want big money. These transfers are always a risk.

You'd think the club have lots of people doing lots of due diligence, watching hours of footage, crunching numbers and making decisions. I'd say finding players good enough to be regulars here is a tougher job than you think.
 
I don't think that's a bargain, the price sounds about right, he's coming from the Belgian league where the standard isn't that great in all honesty of course he's gonna score loads of goals. In the matches against us he didn't look all that, sure he's got a lot of potential but so have a lot of other players. A good decision for him to join Monaco simply because he's not ready for Premier League or La Liga yet.
 
Really baffles me when such obvious transfers like this we dont do. Clubs like Monaco/Dortmund/Atletico all make smart logical descions and we'd rather just raid Southampton.

What is it? It surely cant be just sheer incompetence, theres got to be something more. Would have happily taken him/Dolberg or Werner. Its pretty obvious he'll be sold for triple that price in the future. Is fecking infuriating seeing a top belgian talent ( likely will be the best the countries ever produced) go to another club. Its not even that hard to identify these players.
The margins are so fine in the PL that teams can't afford to take the risk. There's too much competition, too much money. It's more beneficial for the bigger PL sides to let these players develop at lesser clubs and then sign once they've proven themselves. And in the case where they do sign them - e.g. take the examples of Dolberg or Werner - their trajectory would be hampered by playing an inconsistent squad role/mixing minutes where they can get them in the squad.
 
That's just silly. You can't even get Danny Drinkwater for that money these days. We sold Schneiderlin for more than that, didn't we?
 
That's just silly. You can't even get Danny Drinkwater for that money these days. We sold Schneiderlin for more than that, didn't we?
in fairness, schneiderlin is vastly experienced prem CM and was one of the best cms in the league for years. It's not like 22m or whatever is outrageous for that
 
in fairness, schneiderlin is vastly experienced prem CM and was one of the best cms in the league for years. It's not like 22m or whatever is outrageous for that
It's not outrageous, it's just about right. This Tielemans fee is the remarkable one, considering the money young talents cost these days. Bayern paid double that for Sanches who is the same age and doesn't seem like a better player at all.
 
Holy shit. Great signing by Monaco.

The problem as I see it for us is that he's not really the sort of player we need, despite his obvious quality, but he's clearly going to have an excellent career.

He will end up being sold again for 40 million plus I expect.
 
It is a perfect match. Around 20m pounds, he knows the language, not a super huge step up and in a team he can easily establish himself as a starter after probably selling a midfielder. Plays Champions League in a functioning team with a good manager.
 
It is a perfect match. Around 20m pounds, he knows the language, not a super huge step up and in a team he can easily establish himself as a starter after probably selling a midfielder. Plays Champions League in a functioning team with a good manager.

Not sure about that. From Anderlecht who have struggled at times in the Belgian League to a stronger French league and CL, I think he has his work cut out for him. But I agree it's a good match, much better then going to Spain, England... and sitting on the bench week in, week out. He's a talent, but he's still inconsistent.
 
Sensible move for the kid, will be a superstar if he develops well and Monaco is a great next move for that.