Who the feck voted for Benitez?
Your preference for the next Manager?
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was about to ask the same thing.Who from the best is available right now, though?
The three big names thrown around here are Guardiola, Mourinho and Klopp.
Guardiola is obviously unavailable having signed a four years contract with one of the very few clubs, who is as big as United.
Mourinho is possible, would cost a lot of money, though, and seems to want to return to Chelsea.
That leaves Klopp and while I find it cute, that people discuss about his transfer policy, the opinions of the board or the possible costs of getting him, all of this is pretty much irrelevant.
Abramovich tried to get Klopp twice now and was ready to throw a huge load of money (probably way more money than the board of United would be willing to pay) at him to make it happen. At the Stamford Bridge, he could have worked with arguably the strongest assembly of top talents and young players (Mata, Moses, Hazard, Oscar, De Bruyne,etc.) in the PL plus the money to get pretty much any top talent in the world he would have wanted. What did Klopp? He declined.
There was also a lot of media talk after the EURO 2012 about him becoming Löw´s successor as the head coach of the German national team, a squad that oozes ridiculous talent. What did Klopp? He shot down the talks instantly.
Rather than discussing the side of the club, people should think about first, what the person himself would want. In Klopp´s case it is quite clear: He has no desire to become the next coach of Manchester United. This has nothing to do with United itself. He simply does not want to leave his current club.
That is one flop, not the numerous expensive ones like the other clubs, why care? Because we haven't got an unlimited pot of money. Do we early have the money to support Mourinho because as per his previous clubs, he likes to spend.
Point is if we can take risks with signing players for big money such an important decision should be more than worth the risk.
So mourinho would need funds and moyes wouldn't ? If you want him keeping the club mid table he might not need big funds but to keep united at the top, he'd need to spend big too.
Benitez.
Are you seriously compared Man City to that Barca side (Messi et al)?
I would be happy with any one of Moyes, Solskjaer, Blanc, Mourinho, Klopp, Pellegrino, Wenger...
Wenger would've been my first choice.
I'd be happy with Wenger as well. Only thing against would be age. Has he burnt himself out at Arsenal?
It's all academic now. Looks certain to be Moyes.
It's all academic now. Looks certain to be Moyes.
AVB would have been a good choice, surprised he's not on the poll.
You mention Mourinho taking Real's squad (arguably better than United's) to 1 out of 6 major trophies, and we all know the biggest reason for that is Messi & co.
Since our biggest rival for the league is City rather than Barcelona, I think we'd be just fine with Mourinho.
The gap between ourselves and city is about the same as the gap between those two.
The Barcelona of the last two seasons certainly isn't the Barcelona of 2009/2011. Real won the league last year, why have they performed so poorly in it this year?
Why did they lose to Bayern in the Semis last year and to Dortmund this year? It wasn't Barca who knocked them out and if they'd beaten the two German clubs they wouldn't even have faced Barca in the Final. You're kopping out here.
Huh? Barcelona have a better squad than Real Madrid, we have a better squad than Man City, how's the gap about the same?
Bayern & Dortmund are clearly 2 very good sides, are you seriously criticising his record of 3 CL semis in a row?
Barca's first XI is probably better than Madrid's but their squad certainly isn't.
This might well be the biggest decision we make at United this century. IT's also the biggest job in football by far. Look at the pressure on De Gea and he's a goalie..Imagine the pressure on our new manager.
Only person who I think can cope will be Mourinho.
Only person who I think can cope will be Mourinho.
I'm surprised too. Considering total non-starters like Quieroz, Laudrup, Cantona and Benitez were listed on the poll
He's young and he's done an okay job with Spurs so far.
Huh? Barcelona have a better squad than Real Madrid, we have a better squad than Man City, how's the gap about the same?
Bayern & Dortmund are clearly 2 very good sides, are you seriously criticising his record of 3 CL semis in a row?
Barcelona do not have a better squad than Real Madrid. And this Barcelona of late 2011-2013 is a weaker version of the Barcelona of 2009-2011, that much is patently obvious. Real have no excuses for their pathetic defence of the title.
Yes I am criticising his CL record. If he can't win the CL with Real Madrid and an unlimited budget, how is he going to win it here?
You do realise he's already won it twice, once with Porto and once with Inter, equalling Fergie's record in a far shorter career?
How the hell can you even start to criticise that record?
Never mind, we're never going to agree on this and it looks increasingly like Moyes will be appointed anyway.
I need a drink...
You do realise he's already won it twice, once with Porto and once with Inter, equalling Fergie's record in a far shorter career?
How the hell can you even start to criticise that record?
No I'm unaware he's won it twice
I'm clearly, very clearly criticising his CL record at Real Madrid, him coming here he'd be expected to win the CL, just as he was at Chelsea and Real but he didn't. People are using the argument of 'European experience' as if it automatically means he'll waltz in and win the thing.
Mourinho has arguably had his poorest period as a manager and I'm just putting that point out there just as people are putting there Moyes points out there.
No I'm unaware he's won it twice
I'm clearly, very clearly criticising his CL record at Real Madrid, him coming here he'd be expected to win the CL, just as he was at Chelsea and Real but he didn't. People are using the argument of 'European experience' as if it automatically means he'll waltz in and win the thing.
Mourinho has arguably had his poorest period as a manager and I'm just putting that point out there just as people are putting there Moyes points out there.
No one should ever expect to win the CL, that's just wishful thinking, but he's been competitive while he was there and had a shot. Same with Fergie, might not have won every year, but he's got a great record of getting to semis and finals - just being in the fray basically.
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Whoever it is the important thing is that we all get behind him, and stay there even if things start of poorly.
12%.
That is the only worrying thing, majority of our fans wouldn't have experienced a New Manager in the dug out unlike many of the clubs around the world. I really hope we stick by anyone that comes in and set an example of why the club is so highly regarded around the world and not act like other club fans if things start to go wrong.
Yeah you're absolutely right, nobody should ever expect to win the CL but surely a main reason Real hired Mourinho was to win a European Cup, to fail to even get to a final with the team he's had is disappointing. And Mourinhos selling point is supposedly his ability in the CL.
Yeah, it is. How many coaches are there that have won it twice with different teams? The only managers who are still working who have won it twice are him, Ancelotti, Del Bosque and Guardiola.
Signing a coach and telling them to guarantee a CL win is beyond stupid. But Mourinho is as close as it gets to being a 'specialist', you can't fault him for Madrid's crazy expectations.
True, or for colliding with a Dortmund team who are truly in their moment. Their performance in Germany was the best I've seen from them under Klopp. It's a lot like us coming up against Barca in 2009 - we weren't bad, we just happened to meet the team of the era just at the point when they really burst into life.
Nearly half the mains would have Mourinho as their first choice?
Nearly half the mains would have Mourinho as their first choice?
I'd have Mourinho.
The thing about Ferguson is that he's an unbelievable winner. He has other virtues, and he has his faults, but that's what sets him apart. There have been seasons (like this one) where we haven't really been the best side but we've won the league, I reckon, in large part because SAF just won't countenance losing, and the attitude is infectious.
There's only one other manager I see that quality in, and it's Mourinho. I think trying to find someone similar in lots of ways to Fergie would be an error. All else being equal, it's the will to win that counts.
Agree. People talk about how we need someone who'll be here for the long term but SAF was only here for the long term because he kept winning. Now that SAF has retired Mourinho is a) the most talented manager in the world and b) the most likely to win trophies. That's a hard thing to turn down, even if he does act like a clown.
Yeah. And he has that aura about him. People talk about his arrogance, but Fergie is arrogant. You need a bit of that.
Nearly half the mains would have Mourinho as their first choice?
Whats wrong with that?
I think he's "looking for a home" as well. To stand behind Ferguson as he leaves and think to yourself 'I can do better than that'.
It just screams Mourinho.
It just screams Mourinho.
Exactly! Every other candidate would be trying to convince himself he could fill Fergie's boots. Mourinho would be thinking, "Good job Alex, but I'll be winning a sight more Champions Leagues than that."