Your ideal 11 - 2018/19 and outs (being realistic)

[Fosu-Mens]

My point is that we need to have a brilliant team in order to develop brilliant players. Throwing young players into a spine-less team is not a good way of developing talents. Of course, buying only older players is not a sustainable strategy, but this is not what I am suggesting. By spending big on established players this summer, we will be able to develop our younger players in the future. Once we are a world class team again, we can start implementing our talents into the team, and maybe see one player making his way into the starting 11 each season. This is what most big clubs do in order to remain at the top level for decades. Just look at Real Madrid, Bayern and Barcelona.

The higher the level on the players that train, the better the training session will be? True.
Buying older players to build a "spine" might also help towards improving the team on the field, in training and to set a "standard" for the younger players and thus helping them improve. And it will also deal somewhat with the lack of instructions in attack as the older plays will have some experience. This would basically be Mourinho buying experienced players to help the team with his shortcomings as a manager.
I do agree with you on this, but still think that having a defined attack system and instructions for the players on what to do in different situations would be equally as important as having experienced players lead the way.

Mourinho has only one priority, and that is to win games. He doesn't trust our shaky defense, so he sees that he has to give defensive duties to his midfielders in order to maximize the opportunity of winning games. By bringing in players like Alderweireld and Alex Sandro, I think we will see a Mourinho that is far more offensive than he has shown this season.

Having a better attacking fullbacks will certainly help in attack and on the counter attack. And Tobi Alderweireld will help with his experience and ball control in controlling the ball.
Mourinho on the other hand will not be far more offensive. The 4 goals streak per game at the start of this season was largely due to us letting the opposition have the ball and make them take chances in attack. Then Counterattack and score. And when we scored, the opposition took even larger chances, and we could counterattack even more, and score even more. This is how Mourinho has always done it, and how he will always do it. Having better/more experience players would make us better at this, but this is not an attacking tactic.

This tactic has one major downside: What happens when the other team parks the bus? Forcing us to have the ball and take chances. Since we are not used to having the ball and attack against a settled defence, we struggle, and will continue to do next season. Even though we will be better at this because we have better/experienced players. Other big teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona and FC Bayern usually prefer to press high, win the ball higher in the field and with shorter distance to the goal. And they also have instructions/systems that makes them able to play against a settled defence.

 

[mikey_d]

Sell
Romero (7m), Jones (20m), blind (15m), Shaw (15m), borthwick Jackson (nominal/free), fellani(free), Carrick (retired), young (5m) , Darmian (10m), mata (25m), Lingard (30m).

= 127m

Squad
Gk De Gea, pereira
RB odriozola (30m), Valencia
CB Bailly, smalling, Lindelof, de ligt
(50m), Fosu mensah
Lb Sandro (50m), rojo
CM matic, Pogba, Herrera, pereira, Fred (45m), mctominay
Wingers Sanchez, martial, Rashford, Leon Bailey (65m)
Forwards Lukaku, Werner (75m)

Purchased 315m

188m outlay

Reasons behind buys - positions we need full backs, cb, cm , winger, forward

odriozola- 22, Called up to wc for Spain ahead of Sergio roberto who was in La Liga xi of the year. £35m release clause should be able to get him for a little less as sounds like his club have been a bit annoyed at the tapping up by La Liga big 2.

De ligt - best defensive prospect around currently. 50m should be enough just about more than spurs paid for Sanchez last year. Better spending on him than Alderweireld in my opinion, as no way are spurs selling for any less.

Sandro - one of the best full backs around and seems to be available. No brainer.

Fred - not seen much from him myself but with all the news seems done. Remains to be seen if he will improve our starting xi but we do need a signing in this position and seems to offer something different to our current lot.

Leon Bailey- 20, great season ,fast takes people on can play right or left. Really seems like ready for a step up looks destined to be a top player. Bayern seem to be after him for 60- 90m euros. Could get him for less to stop him going there.

Werner - 22 going into the wc with Germany as their centre forward. Can also play wide. My personal favourite for wc top scorer. He’s already there for a step up to a club challenging for titles, another season and think he could be seen as one of the best forwards around if he moves this summer.

Think it’s also time for fosu mensah and the 2 pereiras to get their chance as squad players.

 

[SpyLuke10]

Sell
Romero (7m), Jones (20m), blind (15m), Shaw (15m), borthwick Jackson (nominal/free), fellani(free), Carrick (retired), young (5m) , Darmian (10m), mata (25m), Lingard (30m).

= 127m

Squad
Gk De Gea, pereira
RB odriozola (30m), Valencia
CB Bailly, smalling, Lindelof, de ligt
(50m), Fosu mensah
Lb Sandro (50m), rojo
CM matic, Pogba, Herrera, pereira, Fred (45m), mctominay
Wingers Sanchez, martial, Rashford, Leon Bailey (65m)
Forwards Lukaku, Werner (75m)

Purchased 315m

188m outlay

Reasons behind buys - positions we need full backs, cb, cm , winger, forward

odriozola- 22, Called up to wc for Spain ahead of Sergio roberto who was in La Liga xi of the year. £35m release clause should be able to get him for a little less as sounds like his club have been a bit annoyed at the tapping up by La Liga big 2.

De ligt - best defensive prospect around currently. 50m should be enough just about more than spurs paid for Sanchez last year. Better spending on him than Alderweireld in my opinion, as no way are spurs selling for any less.

Sandro - one of the best full backs around and seems to be available. No brainer.

Fred - not seen much from him myself but with all the news seems done. Remains to be seen if he will improve our starting xi but we do need a signing in this position and seems to offer something different to our current lot.

Leon Bailey- 20, great season ,fast takes people on can play right or left. Really seems like ready for a step up looks destined to be a top player. Bayern seem to be after him for 60- 90m euros. Could get him for less to stop him going there.

Werner - 22 going into the wc with Germany as their centre forward. Can also play wide. My personal favourite for wc top scorer. He’s already there for a step up to a club challenging for titles, another season and think he could be seen as one of the best forwards around if he moves this summer.

Think it’s also time for fosu mensah and the 2 pereiras to get their chance as squad players.

"being realistic"...

 

[Fer]

Sell
Romero (7m), Jones (20m), blind (15m), Shaw (15m), borthwick Jackson (nominal/free), fellani(free), Carrick (retired), young (5m) , Darmian (10m), mata (25m), Lingard (30m).

= 127m

Squad
Gk De Gea, pereira
RB odriozola (30m), Valencia
CB Bailly, smalling, Lindelof, de ligt
(50m), Fosu mensah
Lb Sandro (50m), rojo
CM matic, Pogba, Herrera, pereira, Fred (45m), mctominay
Wingers Sanchez, martial, Rashford, Leon Bailey (65m)
Forwards Lukaku, Werner (75m)

Purchased 315m

188m outlay

Reasons behind buys - positions we need full backs, cb, cm , winger, forward

odriozola- 22, Called up to wc for Spain ahead of Sergio roberto who was in La Liga xi of the year. £35m release clause should be able to get him for a little less as sounds like his club have been a bit annoyed at the tapping up by La Liga big 2.

De ligt - best defensive prospect around currently. 50m should be enough just about more than spurs paid for Sanchez last year. Better spending on him than Alderweireld in my opinion, as no way are spurs selling for any less.

Sandro - one of the best full backs around and seems to be available. No brainer.

Fred - not seen much from him myself but with all the news seems done. Remains to be seen if he will improve our starting xi but we do need a signing in this position and seems to offer something different to our current lot.

Leon Bailey- 20, great season ,fast takes people on can play right or left. Really seems like ready for a step up looks destined to be a top player. Bayern seem to be after him for 60- 90m euros. Could get him for less to stop him going there.

Werner - 22 going into the wc with Germany as their centre forward. Can also play wide. My personal favourite for wc top scorer. He’s already there for a step up to a club challenging for titles, another season and think he could be seen as one of the best forwards around if he moves this summer.

Think it’s also time for fosu mensah and the 2 pereiras to get their chance as squad players.

Odriozola. Good choice, I saw him vs Barca and Madrid, I remember he was rapid. Also he is still young which is good.
De Ligt. I started to watch Ajax because of Kluivert and Neres, but De Ligt was the one who caught my eye. He would be a good investment.
Sandro. He was average the games I saw this season. TBH I was more impressed with Tierney (Celtic), but Sandro would also improve our LB position.
Fred. I just watched him during the Champions League games, he was okay, he used to play in a midfield of 2. I think a top CM should be our priority, I would go for someone like Thiago, Verrati, etc.
Bailey. IMO there are a lot of young and talented wingers, Bailey, Coman, Pulisic, Dembele, Malcom, etc. I would be happy with any of them, or even players like Mahrez and Costa.
Werner. He's not needed for now. We have Lukaku who is the type of striker Mourinho likes... And we just added Sanchez to our attack. Also, if we get a RW, proper fullbacks and a CM to balance our midfield, we will be okay. However, Werner is a great player, I can see him going to a big club very soon.

 

[VeevaVee]

Sell
Romero (7m), Jones (20m), blind (15m), Shaw (15m), borthwick Jackson (nominal/free), fellani(free), Carrick (retired), young (5m) , Darmian (10m), mata (25m), Lingard (30m).

Why would you want to get rid of Romero? And at least 3 of the others will be alright/needed for backup.
I'd be up for Bailey though.

 

[SpyLuke10]

Sell/Get Rid Of: Darmian, Blind, Jones, Fellaini (Free), Carrick (Retiring to backroom staff).
Buy/Get In: Fred, Milinkovic-Savic, Alex Sandro, Samuel Umtiti.

Pray They Stay: Anthony Martial.
Hope they stay but if they left, oh well: Luke Shaw.
Hope they leave but its never going to happen this year: Alexis Sanchez.

De Gea

Valencia - Bailly - Umtiti - Sandro

Matic
SMS - Pogba

Mata Martial
Lukaku

 

[mikey_d]

"being realistic"...

So what part do you think is unrealistic? the number of players?

Don’t think 6 players is unrealistic this summer as the press has been suggesting to. We do have a bit of a gap to close and pretty much everyone agrees we need 4-6 players as a minimum and realistically a good number of them automatic starters to win the league.
Does mean we’re going to have to unload a good number of players also, currently have a lot of deadwood in the squad.

The players I’ve chosen? All the players I’ve mentioned have been linked away from their current clubs and seemingly available at the right price.

The money spent? Such is the transfer market at the moment, any player that we’re going to be interested in is going to be a £40- 100 million + player. Unless of course they have a relitively low release clause or our scouting team pull out a relative unknown- which doesn’t seem likely currently

 

[jesperjaap]

In terms of not spending much with the likely fees either way

Tierney for Shaw
Khoubilay for Blind/Rojo/Jones/Borthwick-Jackson
Heinrichs for Darmian/Lindelof
Bale for Martial/Mata
Ascacibar for Herrera

I would expect the difference to be £50m or less which would leave plenty for Fred and maybe an exciting surprise young striker as back up to Lukakau


DeGea/Romero


Heinrichs/Valencia Bailly/Smalling Khoubilay/Mensah Tierney/Young



Matic/Ascacibar


Fred/McTominay Pogba/Perreira



Bale/Lingard Sanchez/Gomes


Lukaku/Rashford

Its a lot of outs but clears out the deadwood and brings an experienced player and a talented youngster as well in the majority of outfield positions and only a £100m net spend. Also quite versatile

 

[Fer]

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In terms of not spending much with the likely fees either way

Tierney for Shaw
Khoubilay for Blind/Rojo/Jones/Borthwick-Jackson
Heinrichs for Darmian/Lindelof
Bale for Martial/Mata
Ascacibar for Herrera

I would expect the difference to be £50m or less which would leave plenty for Fred and maybe an exciting surprise young striker as back up to Lukakau


DeGea/Romero


Heinrichs/Valencia Bailly/Smalling Khoubilay/Mensah Tierney/Young



Matic/Ascacibar


Fred/McTominay Pogba/Perreira



Bale/Lingard Sanchez/Gomes


Lukaku/Rashford

Its a lot of outs but clears out the deadwood and brings an experienced player and a talented youngster as well in the majority of outfield positions and only a £100m net spend. Also quite versatile

Just Koulibaly and Bale would cost a fortune. Plus, Bale is on 600 per week. We are going to end up paying 1.2m+ per week for work players.

The midfield should be our priority.

 

[jesperjaap]

Just Koulibaly and Bale would cost a fortune. Plus, Bale is on 600 per week. We are going to end up paying 1.2m+ per week for work players.

The midfield should be our priority.

If Bale is costing £80m odd and Martial £60m and Mata about £20m he costs nothing (well bar the astronimical wages of course yes)
If Khoubilay costs £80m and Blind/Rojo/JOnes go for £60m he costs £20m......this was kind of the point I was making in the first line of my post. If we clear out the deadwood and unhappy players we can spend, we have over £100m worth of average players and possibly £80/90m unhappy ones in Herrera/Martial.

ALso the midfield priority you allude to....there are two signings there, Ascacibar I think is a potential world star and his energy, heart, bite and good technical ability would be perfect alongside Pogba. That would be four quality central midfielders for 3 spots with two good youngsters as back up also.

I see people saying full backs should be a priority, midfield should be a priority, right wing should be a priority....they all should be. We may have good stats defensively but that is the way we play. I think centre back IS one of our biggest priorities both in terms of outgoings and incomings as we dont have a single centre back that has performed consistently for any period of time for us since Ferdinand retired! Bailly should be playing, he is talented enough JOnes/Smalling/Blind/Rojo/Lindelof that is five centre backs who either cant defend well enough or are poor with the ball which is part of our weakness, some of them cant really do either. W have two quality central midfielders (talent wise at least) for three spots, defensively is that really the case?

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

Out - Blind, Darmian, Fellaini, Jones.

In - Sandro, Mahrez, Fred, A decent central defender.

I would like to see TFM playing at right back in rotation with Valencia this season and also wouldn't mind Andreas Perreria getting a chance in midfield occasionally. We need a right winger desperately and another central midfielder.

 

[An Irish Red]

I would like to see TFM playing at right back in rotation with Valencia this season and also wouldn't mind Andreas Perreria getting a chance in midfield occasionally.

The modern fullback needs to be great going forward and Fosu Mensah isn't. He's a great athlete and all but I doubt he'll ever be a good enough fullback for us.

I still think a Kante type of role would suit him best.

 

[Fer]

If Bale is costing £80m odd and Martial £60m and Mata about £20m he costs nothing (well bar the astronimical wages of course yes)
If Khoubilay costs £80m and Blind/Rojo/JOnes go for £60m he costs £20m......this was kind of the point I was making in the first line of my post. If we clear out the deadwood and unhappy players we can spend, we have over £100m worth of average players and possibly £80/90m unhappy ones in Herrera/Martial.

ALso the midfield priority you allude to....there are two signings there, Ascacibar I think is a potential world star and his energy, heart, bite and good technical ability would be perfect alongside Pogba. That would be four quality central midfielders for 3 spots with two good youngsters as back up also.

I see people saying full backs should be a priority, midfield should be a priority, right wing should be a priority....they all should be. We may have good stats defensively but that is the way we play. I think centre back IS one of our biggest priorities both in terms of outgoings and incomings as we dont have a single centre back that has performed consistently for any period of time for us since Ferdinand retired! Bailly should be playing, he is talented enough JOnes/Smalling/Blind/Rojo/Lindelof that is five centre backs who either cant defend well enough or are poor with the ball which is part of our weakness, some of them cant really do either. W have two quality central midfielders (talent wise at least) for three spots, defensively is that really the case?

We can get decent money for Martial... I'm not sure we can get that much for the deadwood. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Lindelof, Rojo, Jones, Mata and Herrera stay.

In my opinion, we need to be more creative in midfield. That's why I would prefer someone more attacking minded. Fred and Ascacibar (I just watched him a couple of times) have more defensive capabilities.

In general, I agree with your point, I just cant imagine Mourinho getting rid of some of those players. In terms of stats, our defense wasn't that bad compared with our attack. However, Koulibaly and Tierney would improve significantly our defense... and a player like Bale would take us to the next level, while Fred could bring balance to our midfield.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

The modern fullback needs to be great going forward and Fosu Mensah isn't. He's a great athlete and all but I doubt he'll ever be a good enough fullback for us.

I still think a Kante type of role would suit him best.

I think at least one of them needs to be good at going forward, for us neither are. Marcelo and Nacho works pretty well.

 

[Fosu-Mens]

In my opinion, we need to be more creative in midfield. That's why I would prefer someone more attacking minded. Fred and Ascacibar (I just watched him a couple of times) have more defensive capabilities.

What neither Pogba or Matic have is movement over short distances, as they(Particularly Matic) struggles against small agile players like Shaqiri, Hazard etc. And we would need 2 midfielders good enough to play as a starter over a season, thus having 4 good starters and we could rotate more. Two of the four more capaple on offense(Pogba and new CM1), and the other two more capable on defense(Matic and CM2.). Two of the four should be bigger and stronger players winning duels and tackles in compressed situations(Pogba and Matic), and the two others should be more agile(most of these players are shorter than average) making them able to press high, and create compressed situations for Pogba and Matic when off the ball(CM1 and CM2.).

CM1 should be better in attack, as you state. Fred, will do a job sufficiently in both ends(I, personally, don't rate him that high. And i don't think he is the one we need.), but is better in attack(Passing and techmique) than he is in defense. I would rather have Jean Michael Seri as our new offensive minded midfielder.
CM2 would be more defensive. Ascacibar(have not watched much of him) does not have the abilities to play as a CDM(Either big and strong like Matic, or small and fast like Kante. Or deep playmaker like Ruben Neves). He is not very mobile, despite being short. Nor is he that great a passer. Reminds me of Herrera in that he is "meh" at everything, and that his main strength is his desire. Someone mentioned that Ascacibar has world star potential. There is a chance he might become great, but i find this highly unlikely. Please chech out Lucas Torreira. He is a player with world class potential, and would fit our needs perfectly.

Koulibaly and Tierney would improve significantly our defense...

Full agreement on Tierney and Koulibaly. Only problem is the pricetag Napoli have on him(£80m), and Umtiti(If he is not using us for a better contract) with a release clause at £50m is equally desirable.

 

[jesperjaap]

We can get decent money for Martial... I'm not sure we can get that much for the deadwood. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Lindelof, Rojo, Jones, Mata and Herrera stay.

In my opinion, we need to be more creative in midfield. That's why I would prefer someone more attacking minded. Fred and Ascacibar (I just watched him a couple of times) have more defensive capabilities.

In general, I agree with your point, I just cant imagine Mourinho getting rid of some of those players. In terms of stats, our defense wasn't that bad compared with our attack. However, Koulibaly and Tierney would improve significantly our defense... and a player like Bale would take us to the next level, while Fred could bring balance to our midfield.

Sadly I agree with you on them all staying, think only one of them may leave along with Darmian, Blind, Martial and (hopefully) Fellaini....think wrongly though, we do have a big squad, several of which should be squad players not first eleven players in my opinion, which should enable us to sell more squad players with incomings and squad places available for 3 or 4 youngsters as well

 

[Mainoldo]

Out: Fellaini, Blind, Darmian, Martial (hopefully not), Mata
In: Alderwield, Sandro, Fred, Bale, Soler

 

[Fer]

We need to improve 5 positions for the first team, I would be happy if we sign any of the following options:

Defense: RB, CB and LB
RB. Odriozola, Meunier, Cedric, Sibide, Florenzi
CB. Koulibaly, Umtiti, Alderweireld, Skriniar, De Ligt
LB. Sandro, Tierney, Sessegnon

Midfield: CM
Fred, Savic, Thiago, Verrati, Fekir, Eriksen, Draxler

Attack: RW
Bale, Mahrez, William, Dembele, Pulisic, Bailey

 

[Lawman]

We need to improve 5 positions for the first team, I would be happy if we sign any of the following options:

Defense: RB, CB and LB
RB. Odriozola, Meunier, Cedric, Sibide, Florenzi
CB. Koulibaly, Umtiti, Alderweireld, Skriniar, De Ligt
LB. Sandro, Tierney, Sessegnon

Midfield: CM
Fred, Savic, Thiago, Verrati, Fekir, Eriksen, Draxler

Attack: RW
Bale, Mahrez, William, Dembele, Pulisic, Bailey

Great list, personally I’d prefer another midfielder over a centre back but I do believe a centre back is needed. I just think Jose needs two options in midfield in case it doesn’t work out with one. We need a bit variety in there and Id happily take Fred and Draxler (awesome player) or SMS if rumours are to be believed (most usually not). We also need to address the right attack/flank more than anything as you highlighted.

A right back
A left back
Fred
Draxler

but we also need a right winger

 

[Fosu-Mens]

We need to improve 5 positions for the first team, I would be happy if we sign any of the following options:

Defense: RB, CB and LB
RB. Odriozola, Meunier, Cedric, Sibide, Florenzi
CB. Koulibaly, Umtiti, Alderweireld, Skriniar, De Ligt
LB. Sandro, Tierney, Sessegnon

Midfield: CM
Fred, Savic, Thiago, Verrati, Fekir, Eriksen, Draxler

Attack: RW
Bale, Mahrez, William, Dembele, Pulisic, Bailey

We need to improve 5 positions for the first team, all of these players are attainable and would improve us.

Defense: RB, CB and LB
RB. Odriozola, Meunier, Pereira, Sibide, Henrichs, Joao Cancelo, Hysaj.
CB. Koulibaly, Umtiti, Alderweireld, Skriniar, Manolas.
LB. Sandro, Tierney.(Not hard to improve this position, and could easily mention 15 players that would be an improvement.)

Midfield: CM
Savic, Fekir, Draxler, Seri, Torreira.

Attack: RW
Bale, Mahrez, Bailey, Dybala.

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

This is how I want the squad to look by the end of next season inclusive of January transfer window. It's got a combination of Mourinho players and players and a system made for the next manager that may be more attacking.

352

De gea (Romero)

Smalling(Bailly)-Alderweireld (Blind)-Jones(Rojo)

Oryazabal(TFM) - Fred(Matic) - Pogba (Herrera) - Sessengnon (Young)

Talisca (Lingard/Pogba/Martial)

Bale (Rashford) - Sanchez (Martial)


6 players in throughout the season
Fred, Talisca, Alderweireld, Ordizola, Sessengnon, Bale

Players out through out the season
Darmian, Lindelof, Shaw, Valencia next season January (using young as backup on both sides or TFM), Lukaku (don't think he will last long under a different manager), Mata

Flat back 3 with one ball playing centre back in midfield
2 wing backs falling in to defence when needed only & one wing wing back at a time attacking
2 centre midfielders taking in turns only to transition the ball.
1 False 9 & 2 wide CF's playing off. Talisca can play as a false 9 target man.

Multi-positional players - TFM, Blind, Young, Talisca, Pogba, Sessengnon, Bale, Sanchez, Rashford, Lingard, Martial.


(Eventually the season after when we find our rhythm & are confident playing 352; add Savic and play with 2 transitional CM's taking in turns and let 3CB's do all the defensive work.)

 

[Wallez]

I made a post in this thread last week, but have an entirely different side now. Shows the magic of the summer transfer window. I think we need to bring in 3 players to strengthen our starting 11, and 3 free transfers to bring depth in critical positions. I have also assumed that Dalot is coming in. We need backup for Matic and Lukaku, and I would like us to bring in physical and experienced players rather than promising talent. Mourinho doesn't rotate Matic and Lukaku because he hasn't got any players that we trust for their roles, and this has to change.

Defence: We need to bring in someone with experience and ball playing abilities, and Alderweireld is the best option as I see it. Umtiti would also be a brilliant signing, but I don't realistically see him choosing United over Barcelona. We also need a left footed left back.

Midfield: With Thiago reported on his way out from Bayern, I think we need to go for him. He would really complement Matic and Pogba in a midfield 3. It looks like Fred is on his way in, but I would rather have Thiago. I think either of them will fit very well into our midfield. I think Fellaini will sign a new contract as Mourinho really fancies him, and other clubs seem to have been put off by his wage demands. As mentioned, we need backup for Matic. I know that it would be controversial, but I really think Yaya Toure would be perfect for this role. He still has a lot of football in him, and fits Mourinho far better than Guardiola.

Attack: Instead of buying a right winger, I would like to see Alexis Sanchez being put on the right. This would allow Martial and Rashford to fight for the left wing position, and I don't see it being too big of a problem with Sanchez roaming all over the place either way. Having his right foot on the right wing would open for more crosses to Lukaku as well. Mourinho clearly doesn't fancy Martial or Rashford up top, so I would like to bring in Gignac as a physical backup striker.

Starting 11 (backup)
De Gea (Robles)
Valencia (Dalot) - Bailly (Smalling) - Alderweireld (Lindelöf) - Alex Sandro (Young)
Thiago (Herrera) - Matic (Toure) - Pogba (Fellaini)
Sanchez (Lingard) - Lukaku (Gignac) - Martial (Rashford)

Backup players: Rojo, Mata, McTominay

--> Total players in the squad: 25

Buy:
* Joel Robles (free) - Has got Premier League experience, and is a close friend to De Gea after playing together with him in Atletico. I think he would be very interested in the role as backup goalkeeper for us, and he is good enough for that role.
* Yaya Toure (free) - His physical presence and routine would make him a very good backup to Matic.
* Andre-Pierre Gignac (free) - His physical presence and routine would make him a very good backup to Lukaku.
* Alderweireld (50 mill) - A Premier League proven centre back with a calm head and absolutely brilliant with the ball in his feet. His passing abilities would bring a new dimension to our attack.
* Alex Sandro (50 mill) - The combination of Brazilian attacking abilities and defensive scholarship from Italy makes him the best left back available on the market in my eyes.
* Thiago (50 mill) - Would make us tick offensively.
* Dalot (20 mill) - Backup and long term replacement for Valencia

Sell:
* Romero (10 mill) - Has been brilliant for us, sitting on the bench without moaning and playing very well when called upon. However, I think it is time for him to leave to a club where he can be first choice.
* Jones (20 mill) - Time to go, sadly. He has been at the club for 7 years, but shown very little development. Can't see him ever becoming a world class centre back.
* Darmian (10 mill) - Has had a hard time the last seasons, and it would be best for everyone if he return to Italy.
* Blind (10 mill) - Not a Mourinho player, neither as centre back, left back of defensive midfielder.
* Andreas Pereira (10 mill) - Has had a poor season in Valencia, and I think he need to move on in order to develop further as a player. Could be sold with a buyback clause.
* Carrick (retired)
* Shaw (17 mill) - I can't see any way back for him under Mourinho.
* Johnstone (8 mill) - Has been very good for Aston Villa, but I think he need a permanent move if he wants to develop into a top goalkeeper. Could be sold with a buyback clause.

--> Net spend: 85 mill

Out on loan:
* Fosu-Mensah
* Tuanzebe
* Joel Pereira
* Borthwick-Jackson
* James Wilson

 

[golden_blunder]

Dalot
Golovic
Fred
Tierney
Griezemann or Bale or talisca
Skrinar

Out
Darmian
Fellaini
Blind
Rojo
Johnstone
Carrick
Jones

Promote Tfm and tunazabe,

 

[Fer]

Sanchez - Lukaku
Eriksen
Pogba - Matic - Fred
Tierney - Koulibaly - Bailly - Odriozola
De Gea​

I would sell the deadwood
My big signing would be Eriksen (shirt No.10)
I would sign young fullbacks to add the energy we need in the wide areas
Koulibaly is younger and less injury prone than Alderweireld/Boateng.
We could play a midfield of Matic-Pogba-Eriksen (433) vs easy teams.

 

[GaryLifo]

DDG

Dalot Bailly Smalling Sandro

Matic Fred

Bale. Pogba Sanchez

Lukaku


Could be quite good.

 

[Craig Ward]

GK) DDG, Romero, Periera

Defence) Young, Valencia, Dalot, Rose, TFM, Tuanzebe, Smalling, Bailly, Lindelof, Toby

Midfield) Matic, Pogba, Herrera, Fred, McTominey, Periera

Attack) Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Sanchez, Bale

That's 25.

That's with Rojo/Blind/Darmian/Jones/Shaw/Mata being moved on.

I think it will be hard to move all of those on, especially with no credible links to Rojo/Jones/Shaw/Mata......... If we cant ship some out then I don't think we'll see a CB or RW signed....... out-goings are massive for us this summer.

Its a wise move for me that we start to use Tuanzebe, TFM, Periera also. They deserve a chance

 

[Rams]

You put your right foot in. You put your right foot out. You put your right foot in. And you shake it all about. You do the hokey pokey. And you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about.

 

[Fer]

Another option is to invest in young players (similar to City), if we sign players near 30, we will be looking in 2 years to spend again a lot of money for their replacements.

So, in 2 years we could have a team like this:
GK: De Gea, Pereira
Defenders: Dalot, TFM, De Ligt, Bailly, Lindelof, Smalling, Tuanzebe, Tierney, Shaw
Midfielders: Matic, Pogba, Draxler, Fred, Herrera, Neves, Pereira
Attackers: Dembele, Chong, Sanchez, Martial, Lukaku, Rashford, Lingard

 

[RepardReece]

This is what I'd like to see next season based on who we are talking about:

David De Gea (Romero)
Valencia (Dalot) - Bailly (Smalling/Lindelof) - Alderweireld (Rojo) - Sandro (Young)
Matic (Toure / TFM)
Fred (Herrera) - Pogba (McTominay)
Griezmann (Lingard) - Lukaku (Rashford) - Sanchez (Martial)​

In: Fred (Done), Dalot (Done), Alderweireld, Sandro, Toure, Griezmann
Out: Jones, Shaw, Fellaini, Mata, Darmian, Blind

Shaw doesn't have a chance under Mourinho and see him keeping Young ahead of him, so off he goes.
Would like to see Toure come in, especially if it's only £1 weekly wages, he can cover Matic so he doesn't have to play all the time.
Griezmann coming to United is what I've wanted since I started hearing rumours, want him over Bale, as he's younger, probably better and not injury prone.
Sandro for me is a must, we need a new LB, United are exposed down the left when the opposition attack.

 

[yo@Kirk]

Off the books; Ibrahimovic, Fellaini, Carrick.

Sell; Darmian (10m), Jones (20m), Blind (15m), Shaw (5m), Cameron Bothwick-Jackson (2m), Andreas Pereira (15m); 67m total

Buy; Fred (47m), Dalot (19m), Alderweireld (50m), Telles (40m), Willian (40m); Mandzukic (25m) 221m total; 154m net.

Return from loan; TFM. New Contract; Mitchell. New loan; Tuanzebe

Primary formation; 4-3-3
Goaltender; De Gea (C), Romero, Pereira
RB; Dalot, Young, Valencia
CB; Anderweireld, Bailly, Smalling, Lindelöf, Rojo, TFM.
LB; Telles, Mitchell, Young
DM; Matic, TFM, McTominay
RCM; Fred, Herrera, McTominay
LCM; Pogba, Lingard
RW; Willian, Sanchez, Mata
CF; Lukaku, Mandzukic, Rashford
LW; Martial, Sanchez, Rashford

 

[Fer]

2 players for position to play 433 or 4231:

GK: De Gea, Romero
RB: Dalot, Valencia
CB: Anderweireld, Bailly, Smalling, Lindelöf
LB: Sandro, Young
DM: Matic, TFM
RCM: Fred, Herrera
LCM: Pogba, Pereira
No.10: New, Lingard
RW: New, Mata
LW: Sanchez, Martial
CF: Lukaku, Rashford

The RW and No.10, one would be a top player like Bale/Griezmann... the other one could be a young player with potential.

 

[Scroto Baggins]

My big signing would be Eriksen (shirt No.10)

There is no way Eriksen is happening for any less than 120mil, Coutinho went for what, 140 or so? And Eriksen is on par or better than Coutinho.

This is what I'd like to see next season based on who we are talking about:

David De Gea (Romero)
Valencia (Dalot) - Bailly (Smalling/Lindelof) - Alderweireld (Rojo) - Sandro (Young)
Matic (Toure / TFM)
Fred (Herrera) - Pogba (McTominay)
Griezmann (Lingard) - Lukaku (Rashford) - Sanchez (Martial)​

In: Fred (Done), Dalot (Done), Alderweireld, Sandro, Toure, Griezmann
Out: Jones, Shaw, Fellaini, Mata, Darmian, Blind

Shaw doesn't have a chance under Mourinho and see him keeping Young ahead of him, so off he goes.
Would like to see Toure come in, especially if it's only £1 weekly wages, he can cover Matic so he doesn't have to play all the time.
Griezmann coming to United is what I've wanted since I started hearing rumours, want him over Bale, as he's younger, probably better and not injury prone.
Sandro for me is a must, we need a new LB, United are exposed down the left when the opposition attack.

I think this is close to what I will go for except I see Griezmann either staying at Athletico or going to Barca and Martial leaving for more first team football, and no to Toure. I like that pairing of Alderweireld/Bailly at the back, Dalot as the future in the RB slot, Sandro over Young for obvious reasons. And the Matic, Fred, Pogba midfield looks good, for the attack I wouldnt be surprised if Mou has a go for Bale if he wants out of RM. He has been a long time admirer of the Welshman, so Bale over Griezmann in that lineup.

 

[Fer]

There is no way Eriksen is happening for any less than 120mil, Coutinho went for what, 140 or so? And Eriksen is on par or better than Coutinho.




I think this is close to what I will go for except I see Griezmann either staying at Athletico or going to Barca and Martial leaving for more first team football, and no to Toure. I like that pairing of Alderweireld/Bailly at the back, Dalot as the future in the RB slot, Sandro over Young for obvious reasons. And the Matic, Fred, Pogba midfield looks good, for the attack I wouldnt be surprised if Mou has a go for Bale if he wants out of RM. He has been a long time admirer of the Welshman, so Bale over Griezmann in that lineup.

Totally agree. That's why Eriksen is my dream (and unrealistic) signing. Levy wants 70m for Alderweireld who is 29 and he could be gone for 25m next summer... So there's no way we will sign Eriksen even though we are one of the best clubs on the world.

I hope we can sign Alderweireld for a decent price, he would improve our defense. If we manage to sign Sandro and Bale, then we could be able to fight City for the league.

 

[Rob Bowman]

This is what I'd like to see next season based on who we are talking about:

David De Gea (Romero)
Valencia (Dalot) - Bailly (Smalling/Lindelof) - Alderweireld (Rojo) - Sandro (Young)
Matic (Toure / TFM)
Fred (Herrera) - Pogba (McTominay)
Griezmann (Lingard) - Lukaku (Rashford) - Sanchez (Martial)​

In: Fred (Done), Dalot (Done), Alderweireld, Sandro, Toure, Griezmann
Out: Jones, Shaw, Fellaini, Mata, Darmian, Blind

Shaw doesn't have a chance under Mourinho and see him keeping Young ahead of him, so off he goes.
Would like to see Toure come in, especially if it's only £1 weekly wages, he can cover Matic so he doesn't have to play all the time.
Griezmann coming to United is what I've wanted since I started hearing rumours, want him over Bale, as he's younger, probably better and not injury prone.
Sandro for me is a must, we need a new LB, United are exposed down the left when the opposition attack.

I just typed a whole bunch of stuff out and basically came up with the above minus Toure as I am not sure that will ever happen but love the idea of TFM getting some time there.

So what he said... .

 

[Fer]

This is what I'd like to see next season based on who we are talking about:

David De Gea (Romero)
Valencia (Dalot) - Bailly (Smalling/Lindelof) - Alderweireld (Rojo) - Sandro (Young)
Matic (Toure / TFM)
Fred (Herrera) - Pogba (McTominay)
Griezmann (Lingard) - Lukaku (Rashford) - Sanchez (Martial)​

In: Fred (Done), Dalot (Done), Alderweireld, Sandro, Toure, Griezmann
Out: Jones, Shaw, Fellaini, Mata, Darmian, Blind

Shaw doesn't have a chance under Mourinho and see him keeping Young ahead of him, so off he goes.
Would like to see Toure come in, especially if it's only £1 weekly wages, he can cover Matic so he doesn't have to play all the time.
Griezmann coming to United is what I've wanted since I started hearing rumours, want him over Bale, as he's younger, probably better and not injury prone.
Sandro for me is a must, we need a new LB, United are exposed down the left when the opposition attack.

Why would you sign a 35 years old player (Toure)? I would prefer to sign a young CM like Neves.
I like Griezmann, but do you consider him a better fit in our team than Bale? Who would to provide width and crosses for Lukaku? IMO Griezmann is better as SS or behind the striker.

Agree about Alderweireld and Sandro, they would improve our defense... My concern is that Levy is going to ask crazy money for Toby.
Your team looks well balanced, I hope we end up with something similar to that.
Griezmann would be cheaper than Bale which is a plus. I would also sign Gelson Martins for free.

 

[JakeC]

My ideal team.

De Gea - Romero
Valencia - Dalot
Alderweireld - Lindelof
Smalling* - Bailly
Sandro - Young/Shaw**
Matic - McTominay
Pogba - Herrera
Bale** - Lingard
Mata/Fred****
Sanchez - Martial
Lukaku - Rashford

* - Smalling has been our most consistent defender post Fergie, and is very under-rated, paired alongside a ball playing defender and I think he'd shine
** - I know it's looking like we won't be signing a left back, I like Shaw but I think it's best for the lad if he moves on, even on loan.
*** - Not likely, but if he signed and stayed fit he'd be the perfect signing.
**** - Depending on who we're playing. 4-2-3-1 against weaker sides with Mata, or 433 against stronger sides with Fred

 

[Fer]

My ideal team.

De Gea - Romero
Valencia - Dalot
Alderweireld - Lindelof
Smalling* - Bailly
Sandro - Young/Shaw**
Matic - McTominay
Pogba - Herrera
Bale** - Lingard
Mata/Fred****
Sanchez - Martial
Lukaku - Rashford

* - Smalling has been our most consistent defender post Fergie, and is very under-rated, paired alongside a ball playing defender and I think he'd shine
** - I know it's looking like we won't be signing a left back, I like Shaw but I think it's best for the lad if he moves on, even on loan.
*** - Not likely, but if he signed and stayed fit he'd be the perfect signing.
**** - Depending on who we're playing. 4-2-3-1 against weaker sides with Mata, or 433 against stronger sides with Fred

- I would send Shaw on loan and sign Sandro. Next year, if we sell/release Young, Shaw can cover the LB position.
- Alderweireld would be ideal, the problem is Levy, he will ask crazy money for him. Maybe Koulibaly would be better for that money.
- Bale would be a dream signing. But Griezmann is younger, can play behind the striker (4231) or even as ST if Lukaku gets injured. Also, I would sign Gelson Martins for free. Both would be cheaper also in wages compared with Bale.

I like you ideal team, my concern is that the cost of Alderweireld and mainly Bale would make difficult to sign them.

 

[JakeC]

- I would send Shaw on loan and sign Sandro. Next year, if we sell/release Young, Shaw can cover the LB position.
- Alderweireld would be ideal, the problem is Levy, he will ask crazy money for him. Maybe Koulibaly would be better for that money.
- Bale would be a dream signing. But Griezmann is younger, can play behind the striker (4231) or even as ST if Lukaku gets injured. Also, I would sign Gelson Martins for free. Both would be cheaper also in wages compared with Bale.

I like you ideal team, my concern is that the cost of Alderweireld and mainly Bale would make difficult to sign them.

Don't think Girezemann is coming, plus not sure how comfortable he is out on the right. Dybala would be fantastic.

 

[Fer]

Don't think Girezemann is coming, plus not sure how comfortable he is out on the right. Dybala would be fantastic.

Agree. The No.10 shirt is waiting for him.

Even though I would like a world class player like Dybala/Bale, William would be more realistic. I would still sign Martins because Sanchez, Mata and William are around 30 years old, and he could be use as a rotation player.

 

[Scroto Baggins]

Agree. The No.10 shirt is waiting for him.

Even though I would like a world class player like Dybala/Bale, William would be more realistic. I would still sign Martins because Sanchez, Mata and William are around 30 years old, and he could be use as a rotation player.

I think Bale is a realistic option if he leaves Madrid, Im not sold on the media links to Bundesliga or Serie A. I think he will return to the prem, and if he does it's us or Spurs he will go to. The question is how much is an injury prone 28 year old worth? Or how much should we be willing to outlay for him? And is it worth it given his injury record?