Made the English shit themselves for 30 minutes didn't he? Good lad. Sign him up.
Yerry Mina - Everton Player
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would be an underwhelming signing. Spending a lot of money on a player based on a handful of okay WC performances seems like a bad idea.
I'm all for signing a top CB, but Mina would solve none of our problems. Is he better than what we already have? I don't think so. Alderweireld (constantly one of the best CBs in the league) or Maguire (perfectly fits the profile we need IMO) would definitely improve us, but Mina would just add to the number of "meh" choices we already have.
I'm all for signing a top CB, but Mina would solve none of our problems. Is he better than what we already have? I don't think so. Alderweireld (constantly one of the best CBs in the league) or Maguire (perfectly fits the profile we need IMO) would definitely improve us, but Mina would just add to the number of "meh" choices we already have.
Don't really want him tbh
That's great, but we're not Barcelona and don't try to dominate possession. What about defensively?
Mina and Lindelof are completely different styles of CB. I don’t think you can not get Mina because of lindelof.
Some of the criticism of this guy is seriously unjustified. He’s obviously not as good as Toby, but will probably be half the price. I’m not sure how Maguire is worth double and there’s no one else out there available for a reasonable price.
Was good at the World Cup but as we all know from past experiences that is not the way to judge how a player will perform over a season for a club. Have not seen much of him before the WC so not really sure how good he really is.
Surely linked so we can get on and sign one of our actual targets?
I don’t believe we would pay £30m off the back of a World Cup.
I don’t believe we would pay £30m off the back of a World Cup.
We'd not be doing it for that alone.
This is how to catch Europe’s elite...
Buy their rejects.
Buy their rejects.
I would be all for it if football a had a rule similar to field hockey where you can bring in a specialist for penalty corners. Unfortunately, it doesn't. Mina is neither a good defender nor is he good enough on the ball. Won't be an upgrade on the current lot. We don't need a defender who is just a good header. What we require is a top defender with heading ability & decent ball skills. Do not want.
We kinda would. Barcelona bought him for roughly 10m half a year ago. He's been shockingly bad for them since then. Now after a good world cup he should suddenly be worth 30m or more? Yeah, this doesn't make sense at all.
Its happened then? Link?
I don't feel he is good enough to secure a place on this team.
If this is true then I think Jose is thinking about shifting to 3 at the back
He is a good threat in the box for set pieces.
We need to get the ball past the first man in corners first before we actually expect him to score from them though.
With our current squad I definitely understand that thinking, especially with our lack of natural right sided wingers. At the moment, you'd have Valencia, Young and Shaw competing for those two wing back spots, lots of bodies in central defence to minimise risk and allow us to bring the ball out, Pogba would be more free to push forward, and Lukaku may not be so isolated at times. Sanchez playing just off him could be delicious. One of the biggest risks would be teams getting in behind Valencia and Young, who are think need to be replaced, but it's never going to happen this window and 4 at the back does make me a little nervous.
I know right
How is this bloke a improvement of what we already have.
We need a ball playing CB.
Never thought I'd be in a place where so many Yerry Mina experts resided.
I'm really not excited about this.
I was all with Jose signing another central defender this window as I presumed we'd spend big for one of the elite (Alderweireld, Koulibaly, Varane) and then ship off a Rojo or Jones. I was also fine with the Maguire links as at least he's premier league proven and despite not being top drawer (yet,) he's arguably better than everything we've got.
Mina has been in Europe for 1/2 a season no one really knows if he's any good. We have both Bailly and Lindelof settling into their 3rd and 2nd seasons, they can make some improvements. I'd rather keep Rojo, go with what we have and take another look at Alderweireld in January.
I was all with Jose signing another central defender this window as I presumed we'd spend big for one of the elite (Alderweireld, Koulibaly, Varane) and then ship off a Rojo or Jones. I was also fine with the Maguire links as at least he's premier league proven and despite not being top drawer (yet,) he's arguably better than everything we've got.
Mina has been in Europe for 1/2 a season no one really knows if he's any good. We have both Bailly and Lindelof settling into their 3rd and 2nd seasons, they can make some improvements. I'd rather keep Rojo, go with what we have and take another look at Alderweireld in January.
To be fair to Mina, half a season is nothing and it was at Barcelona where it doesn't take much for a player to struggle to fit in due to their specific stylistic requirements. He's been highly rated for a good while though. Was billed for big things when Barcelona did sign him.
And I'd argue that your waryness is reflective of our lack of our transfer policy - always going for safe/obvious options. It's why we missed out on the likes Mane, Salah etc I don't know if Mina is the right signing but the club has to have the foresight to spot not very obvious hits.
The desire to constantly chase 'elite' will hold us back. We need to make smart signings that not everyone can spot as being top grade. The elite ones are very hard to pull off. How highly rated were those three players when their clubs signed them?
Just been speaking with an Everton fan and he said that he wouldn't mind Rojo at Goodison Park, but he'd prefer Mina.
I didn't even know he was linked with them?!
I didn't even know he was linked with them?!
You should see the other thread.
In Mane's case he was the obvious and safe option, we went for Memphis Depay. We bought in obvious and safe Matic, Chelsea got Bakayoko. Win some, lose some. Swings and roundabouts.
I totally agree with some of your points. For example, if Martial leaves and we're looking at another wide attacker then I'm all for taking a punt on potential from another league.
However, at this stage I would rather we go for an Elite (or at least Obvious and Safe) player to make up the central spine of our team. In all likelihood, Jose and the board agree with this and have tried and failed because some some Clubs just don't have to sell. So now we near the bottom of Jose's 'list.'
The hype for Memphis was much more than that for Mane. Mane was the one people were uncertain about whereas Memphis was apparently the next superstar.
Where is that particular caftard that hyped up Memphis by the way? NLMax or something. I forgot. Hype for him was pretty huge as Liverpool were interested as well and supposedly United beaten them. I digress.
Win some, lose some. Did Mina played CB or LB at WC18? Didn’t watch much WC. Perhaps he could be the versatile defender perfect for Mourinho’s team. CB that can play as defensive LB.
CB. From what I recall he was very impressive. My only concern is his ability with the ball at feet. In Smalling we as it is have someone who is defensively strong but poor on the ball. If Mina is fine in that respect then the signing does make sense. Ideally we'd get someone transformative in his impact due quality on the ball. But that is hard to find.
I really don't want to sign players for the sake of it. Both Bailly and Lindelof came with hefty price tags and a mountain of promise. I'd rather give them game time, than sign another "project" with a ton of question marks. Bailly has had injury issues, and bad form, but has previously looked exceptional. And I thought Lindelof finished the season very strongly. He certainly deserves more time.
I see. Thanks.
Maybe he is the future Smalling replacement, but Smalling himself won’t be sold, yet. He is there to be his mentor in defending and hoofing the ball in panic
I just hope United has identified that one elusive world class, ball playing CB that will be the leader to guide the defensive line and help players like Bailly’s development. Maybe it won’t be this summer, but hopefully it will be soon.
Yeah ideally we need that one CB who can bring the ball out of defence. We have a lot of defenders who are strong from a purely defensive viewpoint IMO.I see. Thanks.
Maybe he is the future Smalling replacement, but Smalling himself won’t be sold, yet. He is there to be his mentor in defending and hoofing the ball in panic
I just hope United has identified that one elusive world class, ball playing CB that will be the leader to guide the defensive line and help players like Bailly’s development. Maybe it won’t be this summer, but hopefully it will be soon.
I still maintain that LB and RW are the real concerns right now though. No idea why all the focus appears to be on CB.
Not being excited about Mina is understandable. But to be totally against this signing is just weird considering not many people have watched him play, given the few starts he had at Barcelona, let alone the Brazilian league (of which he has impressed apparently). As for the world cup, apparently you can't judge how good a player is based on this tournament, but you can judge how bad he is though.
Mane was the safe and obvious option. Premier league proven, like Alderweireld & Maguire. We were linked to him non stop throughout the year before he joined Liverpool. There was huge hype around Memphis, but he was potential, untested in the top leagues.
My main point is there are good and examples in buying both profiles. I don't see chasing elite like Alderweireld, Koulibally, Varane as holding us back. It's not akin to buying the likes of Falcao, Scheinsteiger and Zlatan, so if that's what you're insinuating I 100% agree with you.
I'm not a transfer muppet who just wants all the toys, but rather someone who would rather keep faith in what we have rather than relive another round of LVG type buys.
To be fair, when Di Maria and Falcao came in, to play alongside Rooney, Van Persie and a younger Mata, I was creaming myself.....until I saw them play.
On paper, that attacking line-up should have scored plenty of goals... on paper only though. To be fair, things were pretty good for the first 3 or 4 matches, with AdM on fire, till that Leicester match where we lost 3-5 and everything went to hell after that..
Thats a good quality, it means nothing in our case but good quality nevertheless.
What a crushing defeat that was. A really big moment. My memory isn't always great, but I remember at the time thinking that it hit our confidence badly, and that other teams could see we were super vulnerable (even with some big name signings).
To get back on thread, I've not seen any of Mina other than the World Cup so hard to know if he's a massive upgrade on what we have, but I'm desperate to get just about anyone for our left back and right wing positions. They don't need to be superstars, but just good players who naturally play in those positions, as we're so limited with what we have.
Would rather take Alderweireld or Maguire over Mira (mainly because I know more about them and still think they'd improve us).
Im not in any way saying mina is a must buy but when mou wants to go for a 29 yr old everyone is like typical mou always going for the finished article now apparently he wants to go for a 23 yr old and everyone is like no don't get him he's a barca reject.
Barca obviously bought him for a reason it just didn't work out happens to alot of players. He had pique and umtiti in front of him there not the likes of smalling etc
Barca obviously bought him for a reason it just didn't work out happens to alot of players. He had pique and umtiti in front of him there not the likes of smalling etc
Let’s sign him, also pushing Everton to sign Rojo instead 
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