I'm absolutely fine with that notion.
Yerry Mina - Everton Player
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Agreed. He didn't have the best of season at Barca. Is surplus to requirements, Barca just bought Lenglet for 35m EUR and he'll get close to zero playing minutes this season.
Everton is about his level, don't think his style suits the Premier League well either.
What would make him unsuitable?
Alderweireld is, and has always been the target. We’ve been playing the market all summer i think, but he’s the one we want, and while we still think we can get him, we won’t be signin another centre half.
If the options are Mina and no one. I choose no one. Just cut our losses and accept we couldn't get our first choice targets.
I mean, how much did Spurs want for Alderweireld, because if we’re going for Mina just because he is a few mil cheaper is a typical mistake for this board.
And the notion that we’re adding him just for the sake of it is why we ended up with Darmian, Blind, Fellaini etc.
This club never learns.
And the notion that we’re adding him just for the sake of it is why we ended up with Darmian, Blind, Fellaini etc.
This club never learns.
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Even if we sign him, I see our first choice centre back pairing still being Smalling and Jones. He’s not an upgrade on either of those ability-wise, except he can perhaps stay fit better than Jones and Rojo, but still.
I’ve said it previously, we sign Mina and we will be in exactly the same position next summer - looking at a dozen centre back targets with no clear strategy or plan.
The fact that he moved for €12m in January just shows how all over the place we are, not that the money matters at this stage in the transfer window. Our transfer strategy should be to identify the right player we need early on and then pay whatever it takes. You buy cheap, you buy twice.
I’ve said it previously, we sign Mina and we will be in exactly the same position next summer - looking at a dozen centre back targets with no clear strategy or plan.
The fact that he moved for €12m in January just shows how all over the place we are, not that the money matters at this stage in the transfer window. Our transfer strategy should be to identify the right player we need early on and then pay whatever it takes. You buy cheap, you buy twice.
He's not the right player for us.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.da...-defender-Yerry-Mina-hints-away-Nou-Camp.html
In this interview he claims he wants to leave Barcelona to join a club where there is less pressure. Does that sound like United? No. Everton sounds perfect for him, if we can't get our top targets then we should spend on a full back and wait until next summer.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.da...-defender-Yerry-Mina-hints-away-Nou-Camp.html
In this interview he claims he wants to leave Barcelona to join a club where there is less pressure. Does that sound like United? No. Everton sounds perfect for him, if we can't get our top targets then we should spend on a full back and wait until next summer.
It actually starts to sound like United more and more ...
doesn't even sound like a player jose would want. He was praising Bailly for injuring himself because he wanted to protect the youth defenders in the tour game. No way Jose goes for a player that half-arses everything.
My only hope with this is that Mina is the name we've thrown out there to scare spurs into dealing with us for Toby.
Right now i'm hoping Toby is first priority, Maguire is the back up that we know we can get up until the last deadline hour, and Mina is just a patsy.
I suspect as such. We have not signed Mina because we are not signing Mina. An easy enough deal to do, club wants to sell, player wants to come, we apparently want to buy and price not prohibitive.
This sounds like the same ‘will sign within hours’ crap that is spun every window. Smart money is he ends up at Galatasaray, Fenerbache, Zenit or in China. Usually how these things end.
What we don’t need is for him to go to Everton. They have a briefcase waiting for us for Marcos Rojo that we were need to collect over the next week.
United post-Ferguson, yes. We've bought numerous players who crumble under the pressure.
We need a commanding center back to partner Bailly. Toby is one, Bonucci is one, Mina is not. He's another young stopper that we already have plenty of at the club. Not to mention lack of experience, lapses of concentration and so forth.
This. People have been saying time and time again that the whole Mina thing is BS.
Only tabloids like Star and Express seem to be going with this Mina story.
Which suggests there is a lot of pressure.
So he doesn't have the right profile for United which from the little I've seen from him seems fair but it has nothing to do with him not suiting the PL.
I don't mind what defender we get out of Alderweild, Maguire and Mina but we desperately need one. De Gea kept us alive and contending for title last season and shouldn't have to rely on him to get us the clean sheet. Remember the victory over Arsenal...
Apparently we have agreed a deal for Yerry Mina on personal terms which is a good sign, he wont cost too much(around 30 million compared to Alderweild's price tag of 75 million). He is a strong aerial threat and has a physical appearance about him, the kind of player suited for Premier League and not the La Liga. I would love to have him in the squad, then next year we could sign Toby Alderweild on a free transfer, that would create a strong and reliable backline that could become a back 5.
Suiting Mourinho's defensive style of play. De Gea, Alderweild, Mina, Bailly, Valencia(or Dalot) and Young(or Shaw) in defense would create a premier league winning side.
Apparently we have agreed a deal for Yerry Mina on personal terms which is a good sign, he wont cost too much(around 30 million compared to Alderweild's price tag of 75 million). He is a strong aerial threat and has a physical appearance about him, the kind of player suited for Premier League and not the La Liga. I would love to have him in the squad, then next year we could sign Toby Alderweild on a free transfer, that would create a strong and reliable backline that could become a back 5.
Suiting Mourinho's defensive style of play. De Gea, Alderweild, Mina, Bailly, Valencia(or Dalot) and Young(or Shaw) in defense would create a premier league winning side.
Just haven't seen enough of him to know. But generally feels like a 'at least buy someone, anyone' buy, rather than strategic.
I meant that the PL is not suitable for him, he would hardly make a long career here from his comments so far in the thread. Playing for a lower tier Spanish side or in France/Italy would suit him better.
But why? The PL isn't special, PL players aren't unique, they don't conform to a certain mold.
Aaaand wrong.
Very few people are suggesting he has speed. I think its clear he doesnt, but I also ask who other than Smalling is that tall of a CB who has speed? Very few tall CBs. Tends to be the shorter ones that are quicker to deal with quicker forwards and the bigger more physical CBs who deal with the bigger more physical strikers, who like the CBs are less likely to have great pace.
Pace wasnt a concern for us last season. Defending set pieces was. He seems great in the air and very strong
Bailly is one of our weaker performing CBs at the moment.
I think if we were linked to him early on in the window rather than the last week people would be rating him a lot higher.
We are moving into a slightly different debate but no i don't think we should be identifying the same CBs and Barca for a couple of reasons.
1) For the last decade Barca have played an incredibly dominant form of possession football and as has been repeatedly shown by possession teams, the defence is offered increased protection because simply put, the opposition don't have enough ball to hurt them. With that in mind, Barca can get away with CBs who are not 'great' defenders and instead have the skill set of midfielders.
2) The premier league is the fastest, most intense league in the world in my opinion. It has much more of a focus on the physical side of the game in comparison to la liga and so whether we like it or not a Man Utd CB has to be able to hold their own against anyone in the league.
Bringing it back to Mina, he is tall, strong, fast and i don't think hes as bad on the ball as people are making out (maybe by Barca standards?) and so for that reason I could certainly see him doing very well despite the popular narrative being written on here. All this being said i dont think we will actually sign him, think Maguire is more likely.
It looks more and more likely we going to end up getting Mina and for it's worth 35m is alright when Spurs are asking 50m for a 29 year old crock or 60m for Harry Maguire 
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No we aren't.It looks more and more likely we going to end getting Mina and for it's worth 35m is alright when Spurs are asking 50m for a 29 year old crock or 60m for Harry Maguire
The press are all making noise as that's what they've been fed. It'll be Alderweireld or Maguire at worst.
What about Mina now and Toby later?
Sell Rojo & Jones.
I still want Maguire out of all of them though.
Sell Rojo & Jones.
I still want Maguire out of all of them though.
Which is weird given we're one of the most physically imposing PL sides as is. You'd think that would help.
My guess too.
Mina makes no sense for a manager like Jose that prefers veteran players and wants to compete for big trophies right now, not in 2-3 years.
Matic and Pogba are big but don't have great instincts defending set pieces, Matic in particular is a major liability.
Always thought you need to be a certain type of a character to handle the Prem. It's not only the physical aspect of the game since there are plenty of agile and strong central defenders, but the media pressure, the money that are recycled even by the lower tier teams is different to what it is in Spain, Germany, Italy or France bar the absolute top tier teams in Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern, etc.
To me Mina is a bit of a soft lad and won't do the work to succeed in Prem. He's better off at a bit lower level. He said it himself that he felt a lot of pressure last year at Barca, and in PL it will be magnified, no less.
Why? He's average as they come. Toby is a much better defender than the two combined.
He's not as good a defender as Toby, but he's better in the air in both boxes and excels at bringing the ball out into midfield. We haven't had anyone who could do that since Rio and it makes a huge difference against teams that just sit in. I like Toby and wouldn't be upset if he signed him, but think Maguire is a better fit.
Sevilla hired Gnagnon for 15M€. We could had gone for him.
Yeah. Just as good as Mina, but with similar weaknesses and about 20 million cheaper.
Exactly. Jose priorities experience/quality in those key positions.
There's no chance he will take a risk on somebody like Mina who is no guarantee to improve our current options.
Alderweireld is the perfect mix of experience / talent, but Maguire would be a great backup also.
I just see no reason to sign Mina apart from he's good at attacking corners.
If we buy Mina I doubt he'll be close to 35m. We have to be idiots to pay that.
Last year he managed 5 games and they've already bought Lenglet and even Marlon is coming back from loan.
They still have Umtiti, Pique and Vermaelen(who was pretty solid at the WC himself and had much better year last time.)
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