Xherdan Shaqiri

Weird choice to go to Inter. They're in freaking 11th. Their midfield sounds okay going forward with Medel holding, Hernanes and Kovacic providing creativity from the middle and Shaqiri on one side and Icardi up front seems alright. Big hole on the other wing and the defenders don't seem to be too great.

If he had to go to Italy, Roma would have made more sense but they spent that money/spot on Iturbe I guess.

Spurs missed out here, I think. This looks promising, right?

------------Kane-------------
Chadli-----Eriksen-----Shaqiri

doesnt look too bad. Obvioulsy it is nothing compared to their past teams, but they shouldnt be 11th. Their defence is a bit of a mess, but they still have some okish players.
---------------Icardi----------
Podolski-------Kovacic--------Shaqiri
--------Medel------Hernanes-------
 
A very physical player, in a not very physical league, this can be fun.
 
doesnt look too bad. Obvioulsy it is nothing compared to their past teams, but they shouldnt be 11th. Their defence is a bit of a mess, but they still have some okish players.
---------------Icardi----------
Podolski-------Kovacic--------Shaqiri
--------Medel------Hernanes-------

That looks promising enough. Front 3 all pretty good goalscorers, 2 passers to try to get them chances and Medel to clean up problems.

If they struggle a bit longer and do fire Mancini, might be a sneaky good move for a talented manager looking to take a team in mid-table to a CL spot and then get a really massive job off of that.
 
Now let's make this interesting.

Yes or no, should we have signed Shaqiri for the price?

I'll say yes:


+Shaqiri is 23 years old and 15 in 41 for the Swiss and went 11 in 26 starts and 27 sub appearances in the Bundesliga, which is pretty impressive. How many wide players have a better record?

+We need a wide goalscorer from the right. Di Maria on the left (narrow), Shaqiri higher up on the right, Rooney centrally, Herrera behind him and then rotate the final 2 spots depending on a variety of things between Van Persie, Falcao, Januzaj, Mata, Blind, Carrick and a future signing or two.

Right now, we don't have a single very good wide player apart from Di Maria, who is better centrally. I actually think the ideal is to get 2 wide players in, long-term.

+He might have been too stupid/selfish/undisciplined/positionally confused for Guardiola (like everyone), but Pep is sort of an extremist on these fronts. I am too, but we're not turning into a Guardiola team anytime soon.

+There's not some great 2nd tier of wide attackers potentially on the market if we don't get Bale, Robben or Ronaldo. Who is it? Cuadrado? Can Lacazette play wide? Nobody in the Prem jumps out, that's for sure.

-He's another defensively questionable player, so if the long-term plan is Di Maria and Herrera in the middle in front of Blind, does that work?

-Succeeded for Swiss and at Basel and failed at Bayern. Could suggest he'll top out at a level below what we hope to be in a year or two

-Would he just be blocking Janujaz by next year?
 
There must be a reason he's ended up at Inter. He's always seemed to me to be a decent player, but why hasn't a bigger club gone in for him?

If we're playing 3-5-2 I couldn't see him playing. In 4-2-3-1 maybe, but as you said he would need to put a defensive shift in too.

Let's see what he does at Inter
 
Weird choice to go to Inter. They're in freaking 11th. Their midfield sounds okay going forward with Medel holding, Hernanes and Kovacic providing creativity from the middle and Shaqiri on one side and Icardi up front seems alright. Big hole on the other wing and the defenders don't seem to be too great.

If he had to go to Italy, Roma would have made more sense but they spent that money/spot on Iturbe I guess.

Spurs missed out here, I think. This looks promising, right?
------------Kane-------------
Chadli-----Eriksen-----Shaqiri
To be honest he would have improved a lot of clubs. I'm just happy Liverpool have missed out of him.

He's a bit brainless like @Blackwidow says and probably never good enough for a top top club like Bayern Munich, Barca or Real Madrid but if he plays every weekend and has the trust of a coach then he's still a very good player
doesnt look too bad. Obvioulsy it is nothing compared to their past teams, but they shouldnt be 11th. Their defence is a bit of a mess, but they still have some okish players.
---------------Icardi----------
Podolski-------Kovacic--------Shaqiri
--------Medel------Hernanes-------
Yeah not bad and they have with Handanovic a top 10 goalkeeper.......now they need a few good defenders
 
During Heynckes time - with a less difficult match plan - he was good when he was subbed in and against small teams but he seemed to be too light weighted against bigger teams in a ball position system. You always have to see the systems, too. It could be different in a more counter attacking system or when you have more space.

Why Milan?

It is about 300 kilometres from Basel to Milan. And San Siro has a lot of empty seats. So as he is still the Swiss starlet he even is bringing his own fans with him. The Swiss people are much more interested in the Bundesliga (the German speaking part) and the italian league (the italian speaking part) than into the EPL. He is the Swiss player that has all this advertising contracts for Coca Cola, big banks etc. in the Swiss - so this might be better for his earnings apart from the club income.

Liverpool for sure is the best address - but I think that he has bigger chances to be a star in Serie A. The league is just a lot slower even if tactically on a very good level - so he might even have physical advantages.

@Sean_RedDevil

He was a top prospect three years ago. With them you just do not know what level they can reach - a lot hoped that he could get a new Ribery. But the story is that even older players like Robben - and for sure the younger players like Alaba or Müller - developed a lot more than he did and the gaps are further than they have been before he came.

Funny thing is that even statistics like the goalimpact (influence on the goal difference of his teams depending on fellow players and opponents) show that.

That is Shaqiri's

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That is Müller's

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When he came in 2012/13 his goalimpact was 119 - now it is 131. At the same time Müller's was at 153 - now it is 175. It usually rises anyways when you go to higher leagues or clubs... And at Shaq's graph you see how it stagnated the recent season...
 
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Strange transfer. Inter are in a horrid state at the moment.

Just once Liverpool didn't get him though, I suppose. :)
 
Starting to think that perception of Italian clubs being ultra poor is a bit over the top but in same time they using that perception or image really good,if they want some player of yours,they almost always going for loan option first.
 
He's a bit shit really. Overrated just because he's great on Fifa.
 
15 million euro is being reported. 2 now and 13 in the summer. Absolute bargain if true.
I think German newspapers reported that it could get to 18m overall including bonus payments.

Either way, it was a good deal for everyone involved in my opinion. We only payed 12m for him and his wages were relatively low, so we made a nice little profit and had a good squad player for a few years. I still think he's really talented and hope that he can improve from here on and reach a very good level.
 
Sorry if I have been living under a rock but did Inter get purchased by some rich bloke ? How can they afford these transfers?
 
Inter is a massive club but I thought they were in a poor state. Fair play to them for being able to attract some decent players though.
 
Sorry if I have been living under a rock but did Inter get purchased by some rich bloke ? How can they afford these transfers?
They were always owned by some rich bloke who put insane amounts of money in it. After the CL win, Moratti stopped investing in the club and it all went downwards. In 2013 an Indonesian investment group bought the majority of the club and since then Erick Thohir is the new president, he also owns a MLS team as far as I know. Seems like he's willing to spend a bit to get the club back on track.
 
I think German newspapers reported that it could get to 18m overall including bonus payments.

Either way, it was a good deal for everyone involved in my opinion. We only payed 12m for him and his wages were relatively low, so we made a nice little profit and had a good squad player for a few years. I still think he's really talented and hope that he can improve from here on and reach a very good level.

The problem with him is that early hype does not do the players any good. He was a bench player at Munich - but the superstar in the Swiss...

But I think that a move to Italy was better for him than a move to e.g. the EPL. Fifa this or that - but he is not good 1 vs 1 when it was a decent Bundesliga opponent when hewas starting. Like Schürrle is in the national team - Shaq was in the first year with Heynckes somewhat a fitting substitute as he could do it then.

Lately Shaq only seemed like an alien in the Bayern team. It is not his technic or shot or really his dribbling - but intelligence, recently the attitude, too. He got 260 minutes in the first 4 matches this season - and 260 in the rest. And only was subbed late maybe three times in the last 10 matches. I guess Pep has lost his patience with him, too.

Bayern just was too big for him. But at a club of Inter's level today - especially in a league like the italian that is not too physical - he should be able to shine.
 
Yea its not as if we needed a quick, strong, technically good young winger for a bargain price... ffs

Yep, would have liked him at that price.

I don't think he is the level of player we should be going for.

Title winning sides need squad players. He's more than good enough. If and when we move to a 4-3-3, we need 4 wingers. Not all 4 can be worldies.