Gaming Xbox Series X|S

Which of these do you prefer

  • Microsoft Game Pass

  • Xbox Game Pass


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Isn’t Gamepass what they care about most? I can’t see Sony ever allowing it on a PlayStation

Think it's to make up for slowed gamepass growth. I'm sure it's being spun as a way to create a future pipeline with the future of gaming outside consoles in mind.

I guess the smart thing to do would be to have a free entry tier that acts like Ubisoft Connect that even PS Users sign up to for rewards etc. They kind of already have that with Activision games now right? Then they can try to convert those users to paid subscribers over time and remove a signup barrier to those users trying cloud app etc.
 
Isn’t Gamepass what they care about most? I can’t see Sony ever allowing it on a PlayStation
I'm not sure this isn't something to do with streaming. They agreed to give their streaming rights in the EU to Ubisoft. This might just them rolling out streaming to the rest of the world.
What ever it is, I can't wait for them to tell us about it, so the games media can talk about something else.
 
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/15/24073691/microsoft-xbox-games-ps5-nintendo-switch-exclusivity

“We’ve made the decision that we’re going to take four games to the other consoles,” reveals Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer on the official Xbox podcast. Bizarrely, Microsoft is refusing to name the four titles, but the company says that two are community-driven games and the other two are smaller titles.
Sources familiar with Microsoft’s plans tell me the first two titles will be Hi-Fi Rush and Pentiment, followed by Sea of Thieves and Grounded. Spencer claims there hasn’t been a change to the company doing Xbox exclusives, yet, at the same time, he also thinks there will be fewer console exclusives across the industry over the next decade.

Spencer confirms that Starfield and Indiana Jones are not part of the first four games, but he doesn’t rule out the possibility for these titles to arrive on PS5 in the future. “I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform,” says Spencer in an interview with The Verge. “We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience. We don’t have work going on, on other franchises. But for anybody to stand up and say something’s never going to happen, I think it feels like creating more certainty in a world of gaming where you really want to respond to what customers want and what our players and creators are looking for.”
 
So it's a lot less than what was being reported, though where this will go is still a question. Not a lot of confidence because it seems they aren't able to make enough money if Xbox players and therefore needs to expand to other systems do try and be sustainable. These 4 games seem like tests to see how much they can make with this strategy and, if they are successful, implement to bigger games.

Liked that they said Activision games will come in Gamepass, waiting for COD MW to come on.

I don't get the hype around Indiana Jones though, it didn't look great from the trailer.
 
As he said, they'll learn from the first four they release elsewhere, more MS games will release multi-platform, but likely to be smaller games or non-tentpole community based games.

What a surprise, everyone overreacted.
 
As he said, they'll learn from the first four they release elsewhere, more MS games will release multi-platform, but likely to be smaller games or non-tentpole community based games.

What a surprise, everyone overreacted.

Somewhere in the middle. Indiana Jones and Starfield aren't coming out now but he certainly didn't outright say they won't ever.

It's clear that they are burning cash with the Xbox not selling as well as they would have wanted, after already suffering with the previous generation, and they need to create additional revenue. It starts with 4 small games but could easily go into someone bigger, and it likely will.
 
As he said, they'll learn from the first four they release elsewhere, more MS games will release multi-platform, but likely to be smaller games or non-tentpole community based games.

What a surprise, everyone overreacted.
That's pretty much what the graphic they had at the ABK trial said would happen.
 
Sounds like the initial rumours about Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves were correct. I assume the other two are Pentiment and possibly Grounded, based on how they were described, but we'll have to wait and see.
 
Sounds like the initial rumours about Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves were correct. I assume the other two are Pentiment and possibly Grounded, based on how they were described, but we'll have to wait and see.

Those are the games that The Verge have put out.

Makes sense.

Everyone that hasn't should play Pentiment. It's bloody great.
 
Somewhere in the middle. Indiana Jones and Starfield aren't coming out now but he certainly didn't outright say they won't ever.

It's clear that they are burning cash with the Xbox not selling as well as they would have wanted, after already suffering with the previous generation, and they need to create additional revenue. It starts with 4 small games but could easily go into someone bigger, and it likely will.

To me stuff like Indiana Jones is a weird thing to be exclusive, he'll the Bethesda stuff in general is. I can see it being a year then out on other platforms.

The whole market is going to go this way, you had the interim head of Playstation talking more about PC releases yesterday. These companies are trying maximise their profit on software which is costing hundreds of millions to make, and they all know the only way to really do that is chip away at "exclusivity".
 
If me playing on GP means Xbox games go to PS, I'm okay with that. While they put their games D&D on GP I'm playing them on GP, and they doubled down on D&D.
 
I am not a charity. I'm on there to play games as cheaply as I can. If they fail that's down to their business model. I don't think they will though.
Yeah it seems to be about gamepass going forwards... I don't see how this improves the equality of their output, but once it eventually does I'll get a streamer or stream on PC for those day ones, and then cancel.... Hopefully it works out for em
 
Yeah it seems to be about gamepass going forwards... I don't see how this improves the equality of their output, but once it eventually does I'll get a streamer or stream on PC for those day ones, and then cancel.... Hopefully it works out for em
You'll probably be able to stream on a tv when streaming really takes a step up in quality.
 
If me playing on GP means Xbox games go to PS, I'm okay with that. While they put their games D&D on GP I'm playing them on GP, and they doubled down on D&D.

Yea to be honest if games aren't exclusive to Xbox but GP users get them immediately then I wouldn't mind staying on Xbox.

GP is fantastic for casual gamers like me. Played a bit of A Plagues Tale Requiem, played a bit of Hellblade (will try to finish it) and now getting into Halo 2 :lol:
 
34 million :drool:



The differences between superheroes and GoW are marginal at best

Edit - Here's an example of a better argument than I can be arsed to present right now.


Superhero games are that frickin amazing huh?
 
The 4 announced games are all pretty good. They do fill a bit of a multiplayer gap on ...

Don't make me tap the sign.

Erm, so how does this work now? :lol:

People who haven't played Grounded and Sea of Thieves before will enjoy them. I hear there might be a good multiplayer shooter out at the moment too in some undisclosed location that might tide them over in the mean time.
I should just move to the general gaming thread i guess. Just being awkward
 
The 4 announced games are all pretty good. They do fill a bit of a multiplayer gap on ...



Erm, so how does this work now? :lol:

People who haven't played Grounded and Sea of Thieves before will enjoy them. I hear there might be a good multiplayer shooter out at the moment too in some undisclosed location that might tide them over in the mean time.
I should just move to the general gaming thread i guess. Just being awkward
I guess it'd be more suited to the PS5 thread but if you're talking about the strategy in general and what it means for Xbox that is fine here. Personally I wouldn't have any problem with that sort of discussion in either thread... main bit of contention was GoWR being brought up here.
 


So they reported 25 million in January 2022, and now report 34 million in February 2024. 2 years and they've added 9 million subscribers...but that 9 million includes the switchover from XBL Gold to GP Core.

In May 2020, Xbox reported that XBL Gold had 46 million subscribers.

There's some data missing (ie, what the overlap of XBL Gold and GamePass subscribers was prior to the switch to GP Core), but overall it really doesn't sound to me like they've added many, if any, new subscribers to GamePass.

It would surely be more relevant to disclose the increase in subscribers of GamePass Console, PC and Ultimate individually...unless those statistics aren't favourable.
 
So they reported 25 million in January 2022, and now report 34 million in February 2024. 2 years and they've added 9 million subscribers...but that 9 million includes the switchover from XBL Gold to GP Core.

In May 2020, Xbox reported that XBL Gold had 46 million subscribers.

There's some data missing (ie, what the overlap of XBL Gold and GamePass subscribers was prior to the switch to GP Core), but overall it really doesn't sound to me like they've added many, if any, new subscribers to GamePass.

It would surely be more relevant to disclose the increase in subscribers of GamePass Console, PC and Ultimate individually...unless those statistics aren't favourable.
I've been saying that with the added gold subscribers the figure makes no sense. Sarah also said that 34 million players could play D4 on Game pass. so they are adding D4 to core? We've got to remember that Tom Warren was the guy who said Indy was coming to PS day one so his sources might not be trusted.