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Good job they’re coming to Game Pass then
Yeah it's greatVampire Survivors is absolutely fecking wicked. Thought it looked odd but gave it a spin via cloud gaming and I was immediately hooked.
Seems a weird decision to increase the price. Anecdotes i keep hearing is that the PS price puts people off and is being blamed for the likes of Returnal not selling particularly well. Seems that all but the most established ip's are falling below sales expectations at that price. Most 3rd parties seems to have dropped to a lower price.
No idea how accurate any of that is.
Personally just reinforces my thought that, now more than ever, console gaming is overpriced shit compared to pc gaming.
Vampire Survivors is absolutely fecking wicked. Thought it looked odd but gave it a spin via cloud gaming and I was immediately hooked.
I think there was a debate back in the PS2 era. It was actually cheaper, there was a library of games that didn't get released on pc, being able to trade in games kept costs down. But yeah its painfully obvious they're a shit alternative that has nothing going for them now.Always has been. Nothing new.
The GP will go up soon enough too, they can't subsidise forever. Then it will get really interesting how it moves forward going into the next gen.
I think there was a debate back in the PS2 era. It was actually cheaper, there was a library of games that didn't get released on pc, being able to trade in games kept costs down. But yeah its painfully obvious they're a shit alternative that has nothing going for them now.
All U.S prices are pre-VAT so it works out about the same. And Ragnorak was €75 for me, I think.They're complaining about $70, while we over here are getting €80. Was inevitable I guess. Who buys triple A titles at launch price anyway?
is there a time limit on these levels, I'm 29 minutes in and can't get damaged -_-Yeah it's great
Wait another minuteis there a time limit on these levels, I'm 29 minutes in and can't get damaged -_-
Wait another minute
All U.S prices are pre-VAT so it works out about the same. And Ragnorak was €75 for me, I think.
But yeah, very, very few big titles are worth the money anymore. It's probably just MS trying to get more people on Gamepass. Why spend that much for a game when you can get it for a tenner a month?
survivor.io on play/app stores for anyone who likes that kind of thing by the way, levels are quicker too
They're complaining about $70, while we over here are getting €80. Was inevitable I guess. Who buys triple A titles at launch price anyway?
I was thinking about building a PC for this reason but apparently the new consoles are better bang for your buck in terms of hardware.It wears off fairly quickly to be honest, but it is a fun little game for sure. Haven't looked on GP to see what they have in the way of similar, but on Steam there's lots of games like this for a couple of quid each.
Hardware yes, games no outside of the game pass trickI was thinking about building a PC for this reason but apparently the new consoles are better bang for your buck in terms of hardware.
I regularly buy games at launch.
People seem to think games operate in their own vacuum. It's actually miraculous they stayed around £40/50 for so long. As production costs rise of course that is eventually passed onto the consumer. Also unless you buy digitally the game is usually about £10 less that the RRP.
I dont think they're directly comparable like that. Theres no value in console gaming, they're not a budget option anyway.I was thinking about building a PC for this reason but apparently the new consoles are better bang for your buck in terms of hardware.
Regularly? I just can't do it, it's pointless. I've got such an insane backlog that splashing out for a full priced game at launch is a ridiculous waste of money. I mean, maybe at some point during the next year I can finally consider grabbing Elden Ring, that's how hopeless it is. I genuinely don't understand where other people find the time, and I spend a lot of time playing video games.I regularly buy games at launch.
People seem to think games operate in their own vacuum. It's actually miraculous they stayed around £40/50 for so long. As production costs rise of course that is eventually passed onto the consumer. Also unless you buy digitally the game is usually about £10 less that the RRP.
Moneybags over here
I'd have no problem buying games at launch for that price if they're actually a finished product like Elden Ring and Ragnorak. The problem is so many are basically released in an unfinished state and we're their testers for the next six months while they fix the bugs. Why would I pay for that? it's why pre-ordering is so dumb these days.I regularly buy games at launch.
People seem to think games operate in their own vacuum. It's actually miraculous they stayed around £40/50 for so long. As production costs rise of course that is eventually passed onto the consumer. Also unless you buy digitally the game is usually about £10 less that the RRP.
Regularly? I just can't do it, it's pointless. I've got such an insane backlog that splashing out for a full priced game at launch is a ridiculous waste of money. I mean, maybe at some point during the next year I can finally consider grabbing Elden Ring, that's how hopeless it is. I genuinely don't understand where other people find the time, and I spend a lot of time playing video games.
I'd have no problem buying games at launch for that price if they're actually a finished product like Elden Ring and Ragnorak. The problem is so many are basically released in an unfinished state and we're their testers for the next six months while they fix the bugs. Why would I pay for that? it's why pre-ordering is so dumb these days.
I made the mistake of pre-ordering Cyberpunk and playing it at launch, waste of money. Now if you buy it you get a much better game for half the fecking price.
@esmufc07 you gonna take that shit?Generally speaking you can tell which games are likely to justify the cost at launch if you're a big gamer.
Obviously there's outliers like CP2077, but I knew Elden Ring would be worth every penny; similarly I knew Calisto Protocol wouldn't.
I dont think they're directly comparable like that. Theres no value in console gaming, they're not a budget option anyway.
I'm not sure Elden Ring actually deserves the tag of being a finished product at launch, considering the various performance issues across all platforms, most notably stutter and frame pacing.I'd have no problem buying games at launch for that price if they're actually a finished product like Elden Ring and Ragnorak. The problem is so many are basically released in an unfinished state and we're their testers for the next six months while they fix the bugs. Why would I pay for that? it's why pre-ordering is so dumb these days.
I made the mistake of pre-ordering Cyberpunk and playing it at launch, waste of money. Now if you buy it you get a much better game for half the fecking price.
Its not going to cost much to build a pc with series s performance to be fair. Gamepass is pretty good value, but you dont need a console for it.Does it really get much cheaper than Xbox with a Game Pass? I have Series X which was a bit more expensive than Series S but would probably be perfectly fine with the latter which would set me back €250 plus €40 a year for Game Pass while using the conversion trick. Is PC gaming much cheaper than this?
Fair. It worked perfectly for me on PC but a friend of mine had that awful stuttering and had to give up.I'm not sure Elden Ring actually deserves the tag of being a finished product at launch, considering the various performance issues across all platforms, most notably stutter and frame pacing.
Fair. It worked perfectly for me on PC but a friend of mine had that awful stuttering and had to give up.
There were definitely issues with the ps5 version to the point where people were installing the ps4 version instead.That's always the risk with PC games. Even the most well optimized games could potentially run like shit on a PC.
I don't recall any issues with performance on consoles.
There were definitely issues with the ps5 version to the point where people were installing the ps4 version instead.
Its not going to cost much to build a pc with series s performance to be fair. Gamepass is pretty good value, but you dont need a console for it.
I doubt you could buy a pc with series s specs unless you bought it second hand. You wont get a pc for 250 but you wont be paying for online access or 70+ for games and whatever you do get is going to have much better performance than a series s.Yeah reckon it would still be more than €250. They are selling them at a loss and I imagine Microsoft would have found a way to manufacture them cheaper if any random dude could build a PC of similar performance cheaper.
I haven’t owned a PC or a laptop in nearly 10 years so I don’t really know what they cost but that sounds very, very cheap.
There were definitely issues with the ps5 version to the point where people were installing the ps4 version instead.
I doubt you could buy a pc with series s specs unless you bought it second hand. You wont get a pc for 250 but you wont be paying for online access or 70+ for games and whatever you do get is going to have much better performance than a series s.
I dont think series s is competing with pc to be honest, its competing with streaming which costs nothing.