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Which of these do you prefer

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I mean, that was a bad showing... What can I say?

I'll still check it out though...
 
I mean, that was a bad showing... What can I say?

There was a huge amount of games. No show is every going to be all great. Even if just 20-30% of stuff there is something you will play or try I think that’s good enough
 
There was a huge amount of games. No show is every going to be all great. Even if just 20-30% of stuff there is something you will play or try I think that’s good enough
Was referring to Starfield, show was a bit meh too but I'm sure if you have GP it's a lot more compelling.
 
Forza Motorsport immediately looks more enjoyable to play than Gran Turismo. Of course the usual crowd here could never admit it to themselves though
 
They have another showing on Tuesday.

More of what we've seen today, or maybe more of the future rather than the next 12 months

Nah, I wouldn't expect much from Tuesday's show. I thought they should have managed expectations for today - nevermind Tuesday!

It will be long interviews with some deeper dives into the stuff shown. Anything shown there that wasn't here is probably 'filler' gamepass indies. Although we might get to see some Halo stuff - legacy maps, co-op, maybe BR but I doubt that (as I'm sure that would have made today's cut if it was deemed ready to show).

I do hope we get more on Starfield and Redfall though. Just uninterrupted gameplay sessions with a Q&A vibe. They did say that even if the same games, it will be new content at least - so it won't just be somebody talking over the Starfield video from today.
 
Ugh, not thrilled that Starfield looks way more shooter than I'd expected. Was hoping it'd be more No Man's Sky with a story than Fallout: Planets.
 
Forza Motorsport immediately looks more enjoyable to play than Gran Turismo. Of course the usual crowd here could never admit it to themselves though

Yeah Forza looks incredible. Huge step up. Disappointed it's next year though.



Looks much better here in 4k than it did live in muddied 1080p. @afrocentricity would be buying a new £500 racing setup for it if had GT's name plastered over it.
 
Ugh, not thrilled that Starfield looks way more shooter than I'd expected. Was hoping it'd be more No Man's Sky with a story than Fallout: Planets.

Wouldn't take anything from today. They cut today a bunch of clips and there wasn't actually that much action or gunplay in them. Hard to tell how much of your time will actually be in combat.
 
Not enough on Starfield to tell much from, but the combat alone will make it more interesting than No Man's Sky. If they can do No Man's Sky but better and with a Skyrim level world I'll be very happy. They'll need interesting planets though. Hopefully not all barren.
 
I think I’ll look at one in 2/3 years time by which point there should be 5/6 good games to play. I wouldn’t say theres much right now though for me personally.
Yeah there's only AoE4,Starfield and Hellblade coming for me. Hopefully it'll get better in a year or 2
 
Not enough on Starfield to tell much from, but the combat alone will make it more interesting than No Man's Sky. If they can do No Man's Sky but better and with a Skyrim level world I'll be very happy. They'll need interesting planets though. Hopefully not all barren.
But NMS is in VR, that cannot be topped unless Bethesda were to follow suit. Which they probably would have done but can't see XBox allowing it as things stand.
 
Yeah there's only AoE4,Starfield and Hellblade coming for me. Hopefully it'll get better in a year or 2

Did they show AoE4 today? I couldn't believe it wasn't shown today with a console version. Maybe they're struggling to make it work well with a controller.

If they did show it, I totally missed it.
 
Yeah Forza looks incredible. Huge step up. Disappointed it's next year though.



Looks much better here in 4k than it did live in muddied 1080p. @afrocentricity would be buying a new £500 racing setup for it if had GT's name plastered over it.

They'd be absolutely creaming themselves :lol:

Just spotted the drifting :drool:
 
But NMS is in VR, that cannot be topped unless Bethesda were to follow suit. Which they probably would have done but can't see XBox allowing it as things stand.

Guessing somebody on PC will mod it onto VR? But yeah.. I wouldn't expect proper support until VR becomes mainstream enough that Microsoft put 3rd party VR support on Xbox.
 
Yeah Forza looks incredible. Huge step up. Disappointed it's next year though.



Looks much better here in 4k than it did live in muddied 1080p. @afrocentricity would be buying a new £500 racing setup for it if had GT's name plastered over it.

It does indeed!
 
Did they show AoE4 today? I couldn't believe it wasn't shown today with a console version. Maybe they're struggling to make it work well with a controller.

If they did show it, I totally missed it.
They didn’t show it here. They announced it last year i think, that it’s coming to console.
 
Just realised I hadn't watched the whole thing for Starfield. The ship creation :drool:

Have they mentioned anything about online?
 
Never really understood this one. I found God of War's combat very average compared to proper action games like DMC and Bayonetta
It's because it's a PS exclusive. Everything gets overrated to the hilt.

Starfield could also have a fantastic story, or an amazing game-world (universe?), like those mentioned, but is being judged solely on some short clips as not being worthy because it looks kinda similar to Skyrim (one of the highest rated games of all time and not because of the engine/graphics).
 


Okay I take it back. The Showcase was in 1080 looking at the Starfield demo in 4K if they can meet this quality I'm not only looking forward to Stargate in this engine but more than willing to see ES6 in it as well.
 
It's because it's a PS exclusive. Everything gets overrated to the hilt.
Plenty of PS exclusives have been panned by critics and gamers.

God of War is mint though, and the PC version got unanimous praise too, just look at the steam reviews.

I think looking toward 2023 if Microsoft pull it out of the bag with all these games then it is definitely going to put the series x and Gamepass in a really strong position and make it almost impossible to justify not having a subscription to the service. Hopefully they do nail it. Starfield looked a little disappointing but there is still time.
 
Did they show AoE4 today? I couldn't believe it wasn't shown today with a console version. Maybe they're struggling to make it work well with a controller.

If they did show it, I totally missed it.
AOE4 is great, the developers knocked it out of the park. no clue how they’d make it work with a controller. And you really wouldn’t want to cross play with a KB+mouse player :lol:
 
Bit by bit Xbox is looking like something worth getting.

I’m a PS/PC guy but gamepass is insane value and is tempting me to pick up an Xbox. It’s surely one of the best things in gaming with all the first party games being day 1 and also a ton multi plat games on there too.
 
Plenty of PS exclusives have been panned by critics and gamers.

God of War is mint though, and the PC version got unanimous praise too, just look at the steam reviews.

I think looking toward 2023 if Microsoft pull it out of the bag with all these games then it is definitely going to put the series x and Gamepass in a really strong position and make it almost impossible to justify not having a subscription to the service. Hopefully they do nail it. Starfield looked a little disappointing but there is still time.
I didn't say it's not good. It's just funny how each platform's games are viewed with a totally different lens. Mostly on here obviously, but it's also pretty evident everywhere. Things that aren't particularly special get hyped up and things that aren't very good overlooked. Seems to be the other way around for MS.
 
I didn't say it's not good. It's just funny how each platform's games are viewed with a totally different lens. Mostly on here obviously, but it's also pretty evident everywhere.
You said it’s overrated though. So… how? I mean, if every platform of it is universally well received then… no, they’re the wrong ones, not the guy who hasn’t played it.

like Ms flight sim, didn’t enjoy it personally, not for me, but I wouldn’t call it overrated, because most critics and people seem to love it.
 
You said it’s overrated though. So… how? I mean, if every platform of it is universally well received then… no, they’re the wrong ones, not the guy who hasn’t played it.
I didn't say the game was overrated. I said it's no surprise an aspect of it is on here, considering
 
You said it’s overrated though. So… how? I mean, if every platform of it is universally well received then… no, they’re the wrong ones, not the guy who hasn’t played it.

like Ms flight sim, didn’t enjoy it personally, not for me, but I wouldn’t call it overrated, because most critics and people seem to love it.

You're sort of answering your own question. GoW is so overrated that even a few people saying they didn't like it gets fans out to say b-b-but we all loved it, look at the scores!

People would understandably not do this for Flight Simulator because, like every game ever made, it's commonly accepted some people liked it and some didn't.

Name me another quality of something you'd describe as 'overrated' if it's not being unwilling to accept everybody didn't love it.
 
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I didn't say it's not good. It's just funny how each platform's games are viewed with a totally different lens. Mostly on here obviously, but it's also pretty evident everywhere. Things aren't particularly special get hyped up and things that aren't very good overlooked. Seems to be the other way around for MS.
That's stretching the truth. Microsoft games that are actually good get widely praised, on here and elsewhere. Both Ori games, Forza Horizon series, Flight Sim, to name a few. At the same time, you can't exactly blame people for having reservations about an upcoming game from a studio with a dubious track record in the last decade.
 
You're answering your own question here. It's so overrated as a game that even a few people saying they didn't like it gets fans out in droves to say b-b-but we all loved it, look at the scores!

Name me another quality of something you'd describe as 'overrated' if it's not being unwilling to accept everybody didn't love it.
What? That’s not the definition of overrated :lol:

If most people and critics love something then it is literally rated exactly where it should be. I’m not defending anything, I’m making a point that just cause you didn’t like something doesn’t make it overrated, especially if you’re in the minority. If anything that means you are under rating it.

I actually have no problem with people not liking GoW. It’s slow to get going and very story driven and the combat is lifted straight from souls games so if none of those appeal to you then fair enough.
 
What? That’s not the definition of overrated :lol:

If most people and critics love something then it is literally rated exactly where it should be. I’m not defending anything, I’m making a point that just cause you didn’t like something doesn’t make it overrated, especially if you’re in the minority. If anything that means you are under rating it.

That's not the definition either? If people make out something is incredible when it's really not that special - that's overrated. Take Gran Turismo as a shining example.
 
That's not the definition either? If people make out something is incredible when it's really not that special - that's overrated. Take Gran Turismo as a shining example.
Gran Turismo is a great example actually that proves my point. Praised by critics but absolutely panned by gamers then, 2.0 user score on metacritic. But God of War was praised by critics AND almost everyone loved it so… how’s it possible it’s over rated?
 
What? That’s not the definition of overrated :lol:

If most people and critics love something then it is literally rated exactly where it should be. I’m not defending anything, I’m making a point that just cause you didn’t like something doesn’t make it overrated, especially if you’re in the minority. If anything that means you are under rating it.

I actually have no problem with people not liking GoW. It’s slow to get going and very story driven and the combat is lifted straight from souls games so if none of those appeal to you then fair enough.

No chance. 99% of reviewers just tell the audience want they want to hear. It's why nobody takes gaming reviewers seriously and all game reviewers are scared of Nintendo fans ;)
 
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Gran Turismo is a great example actually that proves my point. Praised by critics but absolutely panned by gamers then, 2.0 user score on metacritic. But God of War was praised by critics AND almost everyone loved it so… how’s it possible it’s over rated?
The panning was because of the microtransactions, which is fair as it's one of the major issues, but also glosses over a very dull game.

Again, I didn't say God of War was overrated.
 
That's not the definition either? If people make out something is incredible when it's really not that special - that's overrated. Take Gran Turismo as a shining example.
Once again, stretching the truth. Gran Turismo as a series hasn't been rated as anything special in pretty much a decade and a half. It had slid into near irrelevance with 5 and 6 before it sort of reinvented itself as a respectable online racer with GT Sport. You're basically making things up at this point. I just don't get where this playing the underdog comes from.

As an aside, who is the judge of whether or not something is "that special"? You?
 
Once again, stretching the truth. Gran Turismo as a series hasn't been rated as anything special in pretty much a decade and a half. It had slid into near irrelevance with 5 and 6 before it sort of reinvented itself as a respectable online racer with GT Sport. You're basically making things up at this point. I just don't get where this playing the underdog comes from.

As an aside, who is the judge of whether or not something is "that special"? You?
Yeah right :lol:

Vast majority of people with a PS5 wanted it before they even knew anything about it.

You must've been in a coma for the last 2 years while everyone here slates everything to do with MS, including and especially the games you listed that are 'widely praised', Ori aside.
 
No chance. 99% of reviewers just tell the audience want they want to hear. It's why nobody takes gaming reviewers seriously and all game reviewers are scared of Nintendo fans ;)
That’s why I pointed out the user reviews, and not just on ps5, on pc too, which sort of disproves that people only love it cause it’s a Sony game. No? Especially as Pc players are notoriously hard to please!

that review actually makes some good points, I don’t really agree with them and I can see why he didn’t enjoy the game as much as others if they were things that genuinely pissed him off, for me personally though I didn’t really notice them nor did they detract from my enjoyment. But again that just depends on the gamer.

Edit: why did you get rid of the review?
The panning was because of the microtransactions, which is fair as it's one of the major issues, but also glosses over a very dull game.

Again, I didn't say God of War was overrated.
I know you’re trolling but you could at least try.
 
You say that but most of the "new features" that Forza were unveiling in that cinematic trailer are already in GT7. Except for the 4K river.

And I say that as someone who looks down on both series as shitty pseudo-sims.
The problem with Gran Turismo, and it's a big one, is the racing. It's not even realistic for racing to be that dull.