lol at the first page....
Xavi is "a slight upgrade of Carrick"
Xavi is "a slight upgrade of Carrick"
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
in my opinion no fecken chance any midfield player from barca will go to shitty !!
You mean like Yaya Toure?
Xavi-Messi-Iniesta are the heartbeat of the Barca machine, any of the other players are replaceable, but not those three, there is no way Xavi will be sold, like Giggs and Scholes he will end where he began.
Chief, would you like to make any amends on your opinion on Xavi now?
I wouldn't change that. I'd still pick Carrick over him as holding player partner for a Scholes every single time for the way a side like United plays. It is only if we played the Barca pressing game that I'd pick Xavi instead.
Also on another note,l dont think I've seen Xavi throw in tackles. He is the master of stealing balls Blanc style.
Xavi is as good as his options imo
Give him the right environment and he'll excel.
I don't think he can deliver at the likes of Man City where the movement isn't great.
i.e Barry
Give him the right environment and he'll excel.
I don't think he can deliver at the likes of Man City where the movement isn't great.
i.e Barry
You didn't preface your original statement with "as a holding player partner for Scholes", though. I'd take Xavi over Carrick any day of the week.
Stealing the ball Blanc's style is arguably more beneficial as it allows for quicker passes to be played which can be played to our style of counter-attacking football though.
I didn't need too. It was fairly obvious people were talking about a partner for Scholes in a standard United 2 man midfield.
i left my self open with that comment
was reffering to the players currently there..but anyway you honestly can't compare messi, iniesta or xavi to toure ..
i can see shitty getting some high quality players but il be suprised if they are from barca..
Tell us first if you have ever discovered concrete evidence you have a brain?
LOL - again I'll post it , leaving barca , euro champs for manchester. you are a tw4t!
There was a guy called Raul carrying the same reputation for years. Think he played for Barca's fiercest rivals Real Madrid. What happened to him?
In a two man midfield it is suicide. Especially alongside a partner who can't tackle at all, in a team that doesn't press like Barca do.
I will repost my previous reply just for effect:
Tell us first if you have ever discovered concrete evidence you have a brain?
because it never dawned on you that the entire darn arguments in the thread were hypothetical from the get go
Difference is his own movement, he never stops. Always finds space and uses it well. That's what sets him apart.
Barry... he's even more average than Carrick.
I mean the likes of Barry are so static.
There's going tp be a significant drop in movement that he has around him for Barca and Spain.
Tbf I'm probably talking bollocks.
To be honest if Barry is still commanding a starting place for City next season i'll have lost all respect for Mancini as a manager.
I will repost my previous reply just for effect:
Tell us first if you have ever discovered concrete evidence you have a brain?
because it never dawned on you that the entire darn arguments in the thread were hypothetical from the get go
yes and it tells me you're a tw4t!
What a load of shite. A player like Xavi, not being able to perform Carrick's role? Your reasoning is the biggest crock of shite I've ever heard on this forum. Here is a guy who values the ball like no other and is one of the most deadliest passers in the world, even more so when confronted with open space, and you think he can't fit in a side which plays on the counter-attack?
To be fair, I'm not sure he can provide the protection Carrick offers our defense, especially ariel.
Carrick is a big factor as to why our defense has been so incredible in Europe for so long.
So as a like for like replacement I think it's fair to say that Xavi wouldn't be able to directly replace Carrick. The reason it is a ridiculous statement though is because if we had Xavi we wouldn't be trying to play him in that role in that system.
He can't defend like Carrick. It's absurd to suggest he can.
Scholes is the best central midfielder I've ever seen but he can't perform Carrick's role despite being a much much much better player.
Carick is better than Xavi at defending, but Carrick isn't exactly a great defender.
Why are we even comparing Carrick to Xavi?
He's not of the Makelele level but he's much better than he gets credit for.
Does have the odd brain freeze when teams get stuck into him though.
Because someone did four years ago, and that argument's being refought because there's no football anywhere and people will go mad if they don't find something football-related to talk about.
For all this bollocks about tackling and defense, with Xavi you'd have 60% of the ball.
No you don't.
Xavi covers more ground than Carrick easily.
Was that what I disagreed with?
Put Xavi in our team and you'd see similar possession stats for when Scholes is in the team. It's his ability coupled with the team he's in that makes for those numbers.
Are you for real? You really want to convince us that Xavi would have made an excellent defensive midfield player in team that had Ronaldo on one wing and Giggs on the other? What? You think the opponents would never get the chance to attack? Have you even accounted for what would happen when they didn't have the ball?
I bet you are an Arsenal fan.
Rather it tells of what an idiot you are. Thanks for proving it's initial sentiments right once again.
Correct
You don't have to be a brilliant tackler to be a good deep lying central midfielder. If people think that Xavi would not be a better player in a deep lying role for us than Michael Carrick, then they seriously need to take off their red tinted specs. Carrick isn't even that good of a tackler anyway. Crazy. Xavi would improve us exponentially. It's a different quality of player. Xavi is the best in the world ffs.
Xavi would suck as holding player for team that plays like United when partnered by Paul Scholes. It shouldn't even be debatable. The defence would end up horrendously exposed. At the rate some of you are disputing this you will soon try to convince us that Scholes and Zidane would make a great 2 man center midfield partnership!
Agree.
And also it's bizarre that some people think Xavi=60 percent possession.