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Talentless X-Factor spastics 0
Talentless X-Factor spastics 0
Television X Factor 2010
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He was an ignorant prick.
Could he not give his opinion without being so foul mouthed and rude? And more to the point, why did he appear on the show if his opinion of it is that low?
Hypocrite, regardless of how valid his points might have been.
His opinion was predominantly about danni and cheryl and how they are in no position to judge, he didn't have a bad word to say about Simon and Louis since he like the vast majority of people can see how much they have achieved in judging musicians, neither danni or Cheryl (for now at least) have both earned what should be honour of doing so on such a show.
I can't argue his point, sure he could have toned the language down a bit but the point remains valid.
His point may have been valid, but since he was about to relaunch by using the XFactor, it would have been prudent for him to say nowt
He's always come across as being a bit of a knob. It was just funny watching him school everything the show stands for about what musical talent actually is.
He used the show to promote himself. It was unprofessional of him to launch an attack on the people Simon Cowell chose to be judges.
Surely, anyone who agrees with what he said about Dannii and Cheryl not being qualified to judge, should stop giving their opinion on music on this forum or anywhere else - unless they are infinitely more qualified than those two.
He used the show, so it was rude and unprofessional for him to mouth off. The validity of his comments has been pretty much lost in the controversy.
Surely, anyone who agrees with what he said about Dannii and Cheryl not being qualified to judge, should stop giving their opinion on music on this forum or anywhere else - unless they are infinitely more qualified than those two.
He used the show, so it was rude and unprofessional for him to mouth off. The validity of his comments has been pretty much lost in the controversy.
you know Livvie, I would think that his very hypocrisy of actually appearing on a show that he slagged off would negate his comments anyway.
Well to be fair I bet he was contracted to do publicty by his record company if they say you're doing X Factor thats what you do!.
I'm not sure if I agree with what he said...I haven't even read/heard it. I was more liking the angle of an actual artist coming on to the show, and demonstrating the immense difference between being musically talented, and being an X-Factor judge/contestant.
X-Factor for me represents everything awry with the music industry. It's a bit of light Saturday/Sunday evening fun. Good for a laugh but it's got nothing to do with discovering new musical talent...it's essentially a giant karaoke contest that takes itself a bit too seriously.
JK might have been out of order, but he's a proper musician. He writes songs, he performs songs, he lets songs convey his character/mood. Whether he's but ugly or accessible to the entire populous is irrelevant to what he does. He's what music is supposed to be about (i.e. making music).
It was just funny watching him effortlessly be everythng X-Faxtor pretends it is.
As has been mentioned did he use the show or was he made to under terms of his contract by his record company.
EDIT:after a quick look I notice his record company is no other than Sony, who run the show, coincidence?
Does being a proper musician entitle him to be obnoxious and rude then? And a hypocrite.
If he really didn't want to do it he would have just refused. It's not like he's some young pop star that is a record label's puppet. It's JK.
I don't know, I don't know what he's said. The whole incident sounds like playground stuff on everyone's part, to be honest.
If I started judging musicians on whether they've ever acted like six year olds or not, I'd have to delete half the songs from my i-pod.
This is what JK said about Cheryl and Dani
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Fair play to JK.
Yes, let's encourage yob culture - foul mouthed rants, intolerance etc. Who would want respect and manners.
Why did he agree to go on the show?
He didn't, seems as if he was forced too by his record company, as phelans shorts said, same company that runs the show.
To be fair, he's not wrong.
elton john has commented on x factor again, and you cant really disagree with anything he says
Maybe not. But he could have been tactful/polite/restrained/professional. It was ignorant.
And I don't buy the being forced to do it - especially as he made a point of saying what a great day he'd had.
There you go JK. That's how it's done.
To be honest, I can't understand why anyone watches this tripe anyway. The same crowd watches BB and are signed up members of the cult of the celeb. As for JK, if he meant it, he's not wrong....he's basically echoing what many feel about the industry and talentless individuals. If it was some sort of stunt then he deserves to be shot.
Spoony it doesn't matter whether he's right or wrong - there are ways to do and say things. He sounded more suited to Jeremy Kyle's show.
And XF is hugely popular. Don't blame the people who watch it, blame the people who produce and market it, or ITV for showing it.
Ahh but the public gets what the public wants!
JK said:
That is quite funny, to be fair to the twat in the hat.
It was the behaviour of a bully tbh. An arrogant one at that. Should have let his music do the talking, and then maybe done an interview where he could have said the same kind of thing but without sounding like Mel Gibson.
I honestly would not be shocked if the whole thing was a media stunt.
JK has new album, works for Sony, picks obvious target and applies predictable monologue. The drama unfolds, the judges wont applaud, Cheryl becomes ever more so endearing to the zombie nation. JK sells 15k more albums, and Simon Cowells narcissistic personality traits become even more evident.
JK has new album, works for Sony, picks obvious target and applies predictable monologue. The drama unfolds, the judges wont applaud, Cheryl becomes ever more so endearing to the zombie nation. JK sells 15k more albums, and Simon Cowells narcissistic personality traits become even more evident.
From what I saw from that hype video they showed just before JK got on, his biggest achievement is wearing a series of daft hats.
You could be on to something.
I did mention the stunt thing first.
So there.
So there.
Did you steal that off my bedroom door?
Did you steal that off my bedroom door?
Well I needed something to remember you by.
good to see another proper musician is now speaking about x factor, this time damon albarn, and again its difficult to argue with anything he says
I'd like to hear Matt sing 'Cry me a river' by JT. He hasn't really blown me away so far in the live performances, but he'd suit that song.
He's put my insane rant into one, far less insane sentence.
The thing is, if he feels that strongly, he shouldn't go on the show. But, he was more than happy to use the publicity and the show to relaunch his career.
Therefore he's a hypocrite
Sorry I'm a bit late on this. My Dad just sent me an email with a link to the glorious Daily Mail. Needless to say the rag sided with the X-Factor. I'm sure it's ok to assume that 99% of Daily Mail readers do not see the fundamental problems with the X-Factor.
Moving that aside I have to say that I was quite surprised that while he was clearly knocking the show (referring to appearing on X-Factor as "wank stuff" that he has to do) he used it to promote himself. Nobody had a chain around the cnuts neck dragging him there.
You take the band Tool for example. Now I know they're not even in a similar genre but it's the whole concept of purity and honesty. They had won an award about 10 years back and they just didn't turn up. Simple. It wasn't a huge artistic statement, they simply didn't agree with what was really being celebrated at the ceremony and felt it was the music industry celebrating itself. So.......no show. No big deal and certainly no apologies.
Jay Kay did not have to go on the show. He did it to promote his new album and his actions negated his prior criticism. A bit of a twat really but hey....what do I know
Damon Albarn is a legend. I have a lot of respect for that man. He's been speaking out against X-Factor for years.
“I think it sends out all the wrong messages. I think it’s creating a mindset which suggests that you can get something for nothing, that it’s easy to acquire status and fame, which is rubbish. It should be one of the hardest things to do.”
Agreed. It really is quite simple. If you don't like X-Factor or Big Brother you have an absolute liberty to ignore it and live your life like it doesn't exist. If you genuinely care for, and love the music you write like they are your children then you're not really going to care if people are choosing X-Factor winner cover songs over your originals. Let them at it. It's like you'd be upset if the kid who is a bad influence in your neighbourhood doesn't chose to play with your own child.
Jay Kay is a hypocrite. It's just bizarre how he thought nobody would think this. Or what was he thinking ? Does he even give a feck anymore ?