freeurmind
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Please explain it to me like I'm 5 then.This isn't even accurate.
Please explain it to me like I'm 5 then.This isn't even accurate.
I think the people earnestly calling this a rebellion against Wall St are wrong. These are people making money and they enjoy screwing some hedge funds in the process. It's not even like there's *that* much morality separating them. Yes, short sellers, especially in this case, were going to profit off job losses, but (as some WSB-type advice on the original thread here said) - invest in a company facing bad news (for example, that they have sweatshops) and hold medium term. So the goal is to profit off slavery/super-exploited labour.
Stupid Questions Round 2: Electric Boogaloo:
Did the legends from Reddit actually manage to force a large venture fund into bankruptcy? And if yes: will the venture fund be able to bounce back(with the help of a bailout or some bullshit like that)?
Agreed. Put the majority of people in the more powerful position and they would do the same thing, most people don't give a shit at the end of the day.
I think they had a bailout yesterday, or the day before.
Booooo!
Booooo!
What is NOK these days? Are there countries where the phones still sell well or have they gotten in to another industry?I actually had a bunch of shares in NOK which I believe is fundementaly a very strong stock.
That said I sold at the bubble and took my share of the pie. I still think NOK is not like amc or gme -- it has proper value but it will grow slow and steady
I don't think anyone can say how any of this will play out, but seeing these restrictions coming to the platforms today, I think the actual 'ministry of dirty tricks' starts today.
I actually had a bunch of shares in NOK which I believe is fundementaly a very strong stock.
That said I sold at the bubble and took my share of the pie. I still think NOK is not like amc or gme -- it has proper value but it will grow slow and steady
This isn't even accurate.
It characterizes the situation as being one hedge fund short. It wasn't just Melvin, they're just the largest. Also Melvin is not declaring bankruptcy at this time, and I don't think there are other stocks shorted anywhere near the 140% of float that was the case in GME. Oh, also the redditor didn't notice a few weeks ago... the first guys started their long positions many months ago.It's obviously simplified to offer an accessible idea of the mechanics about what's going, but what about it is inaccurate?
Phone business is just a small fraction of their revenues. They're now a big player in the 5g network hardware business, which is pretty lucrative.What is NOK these days? Are there countries where the phones still sell well or have they gotten in to another industry?
I don't think a full halt is called unless there's news to be released, or the exchange wants some clarification of information. I don't know what the rules on volatility limits are, but they haven't been modified for this. These halts are being generated as they would for another other stock that saw these moves.
Ta.Phone business is just a small fraction of their revenues. They're now a big player in the 5g network hardware business, which is pretty lucrative.
I don't think a full halt is called unless there's news to be released, or the exchange wants some clarification of information. I don't know what the rules on volatility limits are, but they haven't been modified for this. These halts are being generated as they would for another other stock that saw these moves.
The longer halts we had back in Feb/Mar when covid started were the rules that relate to the S&P index being down more than a certain amount, then its like a long 15+ minute halt iirc.
What is NOK these days? Are there countries where the phones still sell well or have they gotten in to another industry?
This is such an asinine argument that can be used to dismiss pretty much anything.
"Oh you have a problem with unethical work practice? Well if you were a CEO you'd do the same thing you lazy hippy"
"You don't like genocidal policy? Well if you got off your ass and became leader of the country you'd be doing just the same thing"
"Yeah those cops shouldn't have shot that guy, but if you were a cop you'd be doing the same thing"
When celebs and rich folk were getting shit for globetrotting during a global pandemic, I imagine you were one of those saying that nobody could criticise because if they were rich they'd be doing it too
Same. I had plans to sell in the morning and rebuy on the dip (I missed the pop yesterday, surprised me when I saw it). But I'm frustrated it's been dragged into this with blocked trading when it has legit potential.
If you hate money, yes.Good time to buy GME?
If you hate money, yes.
I wouldn't even be surprised if it rebounds once the restrictions are lifted or people find new brokers. It's already bounced off $150 to near $200 (and I think been halted again? MM's can't have the price going up after all)If you hate money, yes.
It characterizes the situation as being one hedge fund short. It wasn't just Melvin, they're just the largest. Also Melvin is not declaring bankruptcy at this time, and I don't think there are other stocks shorted anywhere near the 140% of float that was the case in GME. Oh, also the redditor didn't notice a few weeks ago... the first guys started their long positions many months ago.
It's not that there wasn't a short squeeze, or hedge funds weren't absolutely trounced. I just don't like that someone comes in so late and describes the situation incorrectly. You can simplify it without at the same time being inaccurate. Good information exists in earlier posts on this and the other Stocks thread.
I'm not dismissing anything! I just think it's a bit rich for people to pedal the moral aspect of why they are taking part in this. All of your comparisons are fairly insulting and incorrect, you seem to be trying to paint me as a right wing lunatic.
Good time to buy GME?
I've put a limit order in, feck it. It's just as likely it'll bounce back as it'll return to a $4 stock imo. There's no lack of enthusiasm to purchase by Robinhood users on WSB. They just can't.Good time to buy GME?