WSB vs Wall Street / Gamestop Stock and others blown up by Subreddit

WSB down for anyone else?

Meanwhile trading on GME seems to have been halted more than it's been active so far today.
 
I think the people earnestly calling this a rebellion against Wall St are wrong. These are people making money and they enjoy screwing some hedge funds in the process. It's not even like there's *that* much morality separating them. Yes, short sellers, especially in this case, were going to profit off job losses, but (as some WSB-type advice on the original thread here said) - invest in a company facing bad news (for example, that they have sweatshops) and hold medium term. So the goal is to profit off slavery/super-exploited labour.

Agreed. Put the majority of people in the more powerful position and they would do the same thing, most people don't give a shit at the end of the day.
 
Stupid Questions Round 2: Electric Boogaloo:

Did the legends from Reddit actually manage to force a large venture fund into bankruptcy? And if yes: will the venture fund be able to bounce back(with the help of a bailout or some bullshit like that)?

I think they had a bailout yesterday, or the day before.
 
Agreed. Put the majority of people in the more powerful position and they would do the same thing, most people don't give a shit at the end of the day.

This is such an asinine argument that can be used to dismiss pretty much anything.
"Oh you have a problem with unethical work practice? Well if you were a CEO you'd do the same thing you lazy hippy"
"You don't like genocidal policy? Well if you got off your ass and became leader of the country you'd be doing just the same thing"
"Yeah those cops shouldn't have shot that guy, but if you were a cop you'd be doing the same thing"

When celebs and rich folk were getting shit for globetrotting during a global pandemic, I imagine you were one of those saying that nobody could criticise because if they were rich they'd be doing it too
 
I actually had a bunch of shares in NOK which I believe is fundementaly a very strong stock.

That said I sold at the bubble and took my share of the pie. I still think NOK is not like amc or gme -- it has proper value but it will grow slow and steady
 

Melvin capital got shored up by a $3bn infusion from Citadel. Their losses are as massive as they are hilarious. Citadel owns Melvin Capital Management, it also owns Robinhood; the free trading app that has been used by small investors to squeeze the hedge fund shorts. Robinhood has frozen all buying of GME stocks. Join the dots.
 
I actually had a bunch of shares in NOK which I believe is fundementaly a very strong stock.

That said I sold at the bubble and took my share of the pie. I still think NOK is not like amc or gme -- it has proper value but it will grow slow and steady
What is NOK these days? Are there countries where the phones still sell well or have they gotten in to another industry?
 
I don't think anyone can say how any of this will play out, but seeing these restrictions coming to the platforms today, I think the actual 'ministry of dirty tricks' starts today.

I think you will see the new short holders building up inventory in the background via dark pools, stock dumps, calls and other things, and once they're sufficiently covered they will dump the lot on the market and bask in the profits from the remaining shorts.

Could be happening right now.
 
I actually had a bunch of shares in NOK which I believe is fundementaly a very strong stock.

That said I sold at the bubble and took my share of the pie. I still think NOK is not like amc or gme -- it has proper value but it will grow slow and steady

Same. I had plans to sell in the morning and rebuy on the dip (I missed the pop yesterday, surprised me when I saw it). But I'm frustrated it's been dragged into this with blocked trading when it has legit potential.
 
If they bring the price down to less than $115, the bad guys win.
 
It's obviously simplified to offer an accessible idea of the mechanics about what's going, but what about it is inaccurate?
It characterizes the situation as being one hedge fund short. It wasn't just Melvin, they're just the largest. Also Melvin is not declaring bankruptcy at this time, and I don't think there are other stocks shorted anywhere near the 140% of float that was the case in GME. Oh, also the redditor didn't notice a few weeks ago... the first guys started their long positions many months ago.

It's not that there wasn't a short squeeze, or hedge funds weren't absolutely trounced. I just don't like that someone comes in so late and describes the situation incorrectly. You can simplify it without at the same time being inaccurate. Good information exists in earlier posts on this and the other Stocks thread.
 
Going to be hard to buck that trend downwards, panic selling mode.
 
Anybody know the rules on circuit breakers on the NYSE? How many stops until a longer pause is triggered, if at all? @MTF @Suedesi
 
What is NOK these days? Are there countries where the phones still sell well or have they gotten in to another industry?
Phone business is just a small fraction of their revenues. They're now a big player in the 5g network hardware business, which is pretty lucrative.
 
Anybody know the rules on circuit breakers on the NYSE? How many stops until a longer pause is triggered, if at all? @MTF @Suedesi
I don't think a full halt is called unless there's news to be released, or the exchange wants some clarification of information. I don't know what the rules on volatility limits are, but they haven't been modified for this. These halts are being generated as they would for another other stock that saw these moves.

The longer halts we had back in Feb/Mar when covid started were the rules that relate to the S&P index being down more than a certain amount, then its like a long 15+ minute halt iirc.
 
Well, panic setting in now. Platforms allowing selling but not buying has done the trick for the money men.
 
I don't think a full halt is called unless there's news to be released, or the exchange wants some clarification of information. I don't know what the rules on volatility limits are, but they haven't been modified for this. These halts are being generated as they would for another other stock that saw these moves.

The longer halts we had back in Feb/Mar when covid started were the rules that relate to the S&P index being down more than a certain amount, then its like a long 15+ minute halt iirc.

Yes marketwide is 15 minute until it hits level 3 (-20%) then it's gone for the day. Individual stocks i dont know, but GME is lasting about 30 seconds between reopens at the moment.
 
What is NOK these days? Are there countries where the phones still sell well or have they gotten in to another industry?

Phones is hardly their industry. NOK is mainly a 5G play. A solid company with a ton of cash that is still trusted by big companies when it comes to technology.
 
This is such an asinine argument that can be used to dismiss pretty much anything.
"Oh you have a problem with unethical work practice? Well if you were a CEO you'd do the same thing you lazy hippy"
"You don't like genocidal policy? Well if you got off your ass and became leader of the country you'd be doing just the same thing"
"Yeah those cops shouldn't have shot that guy, but if you were a cop you'd be doing the same thing"

When celebs and rich folk were getting shit for globetrotting during a global pandemic, I imagine you were one of those saying that nobody could criticise because if they were rich they'd be doing it too

I'm not dismissing anything! I just think it's a bit rich for people to pedal the moral aspect of why they are taking part in this. All of your comparisons are fairly insulting and incorrect, you seem to be trying to paint me as a right wing lunatic.
 
Same. I had plans to sell in the morning and rebuy on the dip (I missed the pop yesterday, surprised me when I saw it). But I'm frustrated it's been dragged into this with blocked trading when it has legit potential.

I say just be patient. After this noise is over the stock will and should do well. Like I said NOK (and I believe BB) -- these are strong companies with good fundementalst
 


AOC to rescue the free market! Here we go!
 
If you hate money, yes.
I wouldn't even be surprised if it rebounds once the restrictions are lifted or people find new brokers. It's already bounced off $150 to near $200 (and I think been halted again? MM's can't have the price going up after all)
 
It characterizes the situation as being one hedge fund short. It wasn't just Melvin, they're just the largest. Also Melvin is not declaring bankruptcy at this time, and I don't think there are other stocks shorted anywhere near the 140% of float that was the case in GME. Oh, also the redditor didn't notice a few weeks ago... the first guys started their long positions many months ago.

It's not that there wasn't a short squeeze, or hedge funds weren't absolutely trounced. I just don't like that someone comes in so late and describes the situation incorrectly. You can simplify it without at the same time being inaccurate. Good information exists in earlier posts on this and the other Stocks thread.

Ah I thought you were referring to his breakdown of shorting

I'm not dismissing anything! I just think it's a bit rich for people to pedal the moral aspect of why they are taking part in this. All of your comparisons are fairly insulting and incorrect, you seem to be trying to paint me as a right wing lunatic.

Yeah the comparisons were pretty unfair, but the hypothetical argument of "you'd be doing the same if you were in that position" is one that just makes no sense to me. It gets bandied about when talking about unethical business practices, as a way to shut down legitimate grievances. Money is undoubtedly the primary motivator, but a lot of the people on WSB have wanted to get one over on Wall Street for a long time and have had long standing issues with the industry. Maybe they would have acted in the exact same manner given the opportunity, but we don't know that. A lot of them are going to be further ideologically entrenched due to what's happened.
 
Good time to buy GME?
I've put a limit order in, feck it. It's just as likely it'll bounce back as it'll return to a $4 stock imo. There's no lack of enthusiasm to purchase by Robinhood users on WSB. They just can't.
 
I got in with a few GME shares at about 375 just before they plummeted

gotta say, it seems dodgy as feck that trading has been suspended while the price just gets driven lower and lower.