I love the Horst, I’m a fan but we absolutely shouldn’t be signing him in the summer.
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That’s the kinda stuff that actually makes me seriously doubt ETH. He should have tried an alternative to WW by now given how feckless he has proven to be. Try someone as false 9 or Rashford up top or something. He has not done that, but instead he has tried to shoehorn him into the squad any way possible, sometimes even as a #10.
This level of favouritism or delusion about what he offers, could easily sabotage his relationship with the rest of the squad. You can’t seriously be starting a donkey who’s sabotaging your attack every single game, then praise him in the press, then expect the other players to respect you as you criticise them after they lose games where you handicapped them by starting with 10 men.
I have said it before and I stick to it, McTominay would do better as a striker than WW, not that it will win us any trophies either.
Goldbridge just called him a drunk Peter Crouch 
Better of playing with the local postman up front
Better of playing with the local postman up frontJust curious.
The club tried getting Arnautović in the summer. Instead they were shouted down and we bought a guy with similar physical attributes and a better attitude.
Would anyone who cried over Marko now like to admit buyers remorse?
Marko would have been a bell for the season but he'd be scoring more goals
The club tried getting Arnautović in the summer. Instead they were shouted down and we bought a guy with similar physical attributes and a better attitude.
Would anyone who cried over Marko now like to admit buyers remorse?
Marko would have been a bell for the season but he'd be scoring more goals
One of those rare times I completely agree with you
Said it was a waste of time before he signed, plenty on here were chastising those of us who
said this
I will say this in ETH's defence.
It's his first season and he's having to plug a few holes in the squad, because Utd have a woefully average and unbalanced squad. His options were limited in the transfer market and his squad options are limited even more due to Martial being injured so much.
In his first season Klopp ended up playing an on loan Caulker up top, so it could always be worse.
One of those rare times I completely agree with you
Yeah your opinion doesn't mean that much to me tbf with all due respect.
Your thoughts on Rashy perfectly sum up your football knowledge. We are only in a top 4 race because of him. The rest of the team don't know where the goal is. Hahaha.
Can we sign Potter for a CF now?
You might wanna learn the difference between giving an opinion and asking a question. I gave no opinion on Rashford. Just that it's worrying we're too reliant on him scoring.
For what it's worth, your opinion means feck all to me neither. That's why it surprised me you actually said something sensible
Apart from two okay-ish performances where he impressed me with his pressing and link-up, he's been a complete waste of space. A less clinical Ighalo.
The few things I have been very vocal about on this site, which I got immense stick for at the time, have kind of gone my way though.
Pogba was the big one. Boy did I get some grief about him from you all but look who is laughing now.
And with Rashford I said he'd come out of his funk sooner than later. He was too good not to.
I actually like ETH and he was my first choice. I don't even want him out either. That would be absurd. I do think he's making the job harder than it needs to be though at times with some very bizarre decisions.
What stings even more is we could probably have got Arnautovic for barely more than we ended up paying Besiktas.
The Glazers really are scum.
Couldnt afford anything but a championship loan. It’s sickening that they’re now dragging out the sale of the club to eke out every last penny. And leaving the financial situation in a mess.
Cant wait until they’re gone, but what they have done is criminal.
Couldnt afford anything but a championship loan. It’s sickening that they’re now dragging out the sale of the club to eke out every last penny. And leaving the financial situation in a mess.
Cant wait until they’re gone, but what they have done is criminal.
I only gave a fair assessment of things when I thought Pogba was unfairly criticized (like when he was accused of faking injuries for instance). I challenge you to find a post of mine saying he was good when he was shite and in the end I've always said that him leaving was the right to do.
The thing is you took was challenging your opinion regarding certain situations with Pogba to something else, something personal I'd say.
If a player is shit, he is shit, there is no need to invent fake stuff about him.
I've always said that there was enough football subject to criticize him for. There was never a need to go the extra mile.
He was a huge disappointment precisely because he wasn't shit. He's actually a good (not great) footballer who just didn't give a shit. That was the whole point. One of the worst attitudes I have ever seen at United.
Anyway back to Weghorst. This is a huge huge problem now. It's clear he wanted to get Ronaldo out but we have replaced him with an inferior player who doesn't score goals and contrary to what some people think he doesn't make us play well at all. I think our football has been getting worse.
He's actually said that? I like ETH and believe he's the right man for the job but WW should be heading back to Burnley asap.
He's becoming a complete and utter handicap, I saw people in the match thread saying people weren't passing to him, so obviously the players are realising there's no point doing so
Hopefully Martial stays fit, so ETH doesn't keep picking him, if he does and WW is still picked it's worrying.
Absolutely do not want to see him signed permenantly and wish he'd be sent back to Burnley asap. It's getting to the point it's embarrassing, along with Ole levels of favouritism.
We all moaned at Ole for prioritising pashun and that's what's close to happening here, along with un droppable favourites no matter how bad they played. I'm sure we'd all show passion and delight to play for united but that doesn't make us good enough, let alone being un droppable
It's toe curling, honestly. Never seen a player defended so much for being such a bad striker.
How is it that we ended up with a player of his calibre, even as a 2nd or 3rd option.
He wouldn't even be on the radar of teams like City, Arsenal, PSG, Bayern even as a 4th option.
He wouldn't even be on the radar of teams like City, Arsenal, PSG, Bayern even as a 4th option.
I give up if he's still at the club next season.
ETH should have the absolute minimal say on players incoming. He seems to have a very blinkered view on certain players.
ETH should have the absolute minimal say on players incoming. He seems to have a very blinkered view on certain players.
So true and so annoying. Give him a job in the cafeteria, nice lad and works hard.
One of the most annoying phrases used on this forum.
Fans have always been seduced by a bit of running. Which is odd because the main difference between those in the stands and those on the pitch should be quality. Why pay your money to go and see someone just ‘give their all’, which you could do yourself if given the chance?
I agree that he does seem to have a bias for Dutch/Dutch league players, but it's hardly like he had the choice between Osimhen, Mbappe, and Haaland when we got Weghorst...
He had the choice to not get him. He wasn't needed at all. You don't sign a player just for the sake of it. They have to offer something.
I think there is two things going on here.
Firstly I think he is a manager who is married to his system/philosophy and is working out how this translates into the English PL from the eredivisie. It’s a couple of levels up for sure. So a player like Weghorst would potentially have been wonderful in the Netherlands, but you can see he is way off the pace and the required standard here.
Second it’s clear he had no money to work with in January and given the fact Martial is made of wet tissue and also the Ronaldo blow up, he’s done the best he can on a shoestring. Imagine how it might go when he has some financial backing to shape his squad!
He started out badly and has gotten worse each week.
He's been absolutely brutal in the last 4 or 5 games. One of the worst players I've ever seen for Utd, serious contender for the worst ever.
He's been absolutely brutal in the last 4 or 5 games. One of the worst players I've ever seen for Utd, serious contender for the worst ever.
Competition winner.
This thread is becoming hilarious.
People saying that he is the defacto worse player who has played for MUFC in 15 years+.
We are now even comparing him to Falcao, who was dreadful (he could barely stand without falling over and scored about 4 goals in 6 months).
Hopefully ETH isn't too stubborn and accepts that for the good of the team (with Wout, it's like we are playing with 10 men), it would be best for all concerned to end this experiment.
People saying that he is the defacto worse player who has played for MUFC in 15 years+.
We are now even comparing him to Falcao, who was dreadful (he could barely stand without falling over and scored about 4 goals in 6 months).
Hopefully ETH isn't too stubborn and accepts that for the good of the team (with Wout, it's like we are playing with 10 men), it would be best for all concerned to end this experiment.
That's not the worst of it.
He'll likely be just as bad as he was in the last game.
When we get a mediocre player playing one of our most important position, we get mediocre result with that. It’s that simple.
So you think we'd be better off without a striker since January? The only reason he's starting every game is because Martial is usually unavailable
Rashford is miles better up top. Even Elanga offers more.
We don't need Weghorst at all. Him being a striker is irrelevant.
Literally this. I don't think he could do worse than WW.
But Rashford is clearly better on the left in his natural position. If you can find another striker that was available on loan when we had no money available then fair enough but we did need someone till the summer because we lost Ronaldo and Martial can't stay fit.
That’s irrelevant, it’s a bit like loaning a championship quality midfielder and playing him in Casmiros position when he’s unavailable.
Just because we have issues up front doesn’t mean we should play any mediocre player we can find to fill the hole.
He’s one of the worst players I’ve seen play for the club, looks like he would struggle in the reserves.
Nothing against him personally as he's a trier, but I genuinely laughed out loud when he tried to dribble past two Newcastle players like it's the bundesliga.
What were you expecting him to answer?
"No way he's shit we need way better"
I guess that would have done wonders for his confidence.
It's clear we won't sign him everyone knows it. But he's a player that even with the lack of quality we need simply for the fact that there are no bodies available at this point.
If he was better in the air then I'd happily sign him permanently to sub on with 10 minutes to go when we're desperately chasing the game and lumping crosses into box. But he's not particular good aerially.
We would have score 1 or 2 in first half today at least if Osimhen or Kane was the striker.
What could have gone wrong we sign a striker from Turkish League for PL club with ambition of Top 4, Europa and FA Cup.
Can we cancel the loan and return him to Turkish League?
Can we cancel the loan and return him to Turkish League?
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